Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Liquidator]

its happening tonight big attack

@Truth

Big Iranian daddy going to start pounding little israel filthy bitch soon. You got your diapers and gopro ready son?

Remember we want some good HD footage from you this time.

 

[Shadihassan28]

Nope. Not tonight.

Well I’m guessing any time after the polls are closed if iran attacks severely which seems may happen but sticks to mainly military and intelligence locations there really is no fear of reprisals from America and Biden seems to be whatever at this point only thing iran needs to be fully prepared is for an Israeli attack hopefully they have cleared out most things to underground locations but I hope they hit those airbases fiercely Houthi have been quiet perhaps they are getting their pieces ready this attacks really only works with a combined attack starting with Houthi Iraqi forces and Syrian and Hezbollah Allie’s with iran coming in after hitting hard

 

[FHN]

Well I’m guessing any time after the polls are closed if iran attacks severely which seems may happen but sticks to mainly military and intelligence locations there really is no fear of reprisals from America and Biden seems to be whatever at this point only thing iran needs to be fully prepared is for an Israeli attack hopefully they have cleared out most things to underground locations but I hope they hit those airbases fiercely Houthi have been quiet perhaps they are getting their pieces ready this attacks really only works with a combined attack starting with Houthi Iraqi forces and Syrian and Hezbollah Allie’s with iran coming in after hitting hard

Don't get your hope up too much. Let's wait and see

 

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[Shawnee]

Well I’m guessing any time after the polls are closed if iran attacks severely which seems may happen but sticks to mainly military and intelligence locations there really is no fear of reprisals from America and Biden seems to be whatever at this point only thing iran needs to be fully prepared is for an Israeli attack hopefully they have cleared out most things to underground locations but I hope they hit those airbases fiercely Houthi have been quiet perhaps they are getting their pieces ready this attacks really only works with a combined attack starting with Houthi Iraqi forces and Syrian and Hezbollah Allie’s with iran coming in after hitting hard

Iran will disappoint everyone from attacking and then attacks.
It may drag on.

 

[Snake]

Yeah, once you finish someone off, there is no one else left to kill so the killing stops.

That's your interpretation.

He doesn't just say these things, he believes it from the depth of his xenophobic personality. He doesn't care about anyone but himself. He doesn't care about Jews or Muslims, but Jews are rich and powerful in America while Muslims aren't, so he will do what is best for his personal interests. I already explained it above.

He has gone out of this way to do things he didn't have to do, like the 'Muslim ban'.

Trump has no beliefs he'll say one thing one day and another thing the next. This is due to exactly as you say - he doesn't care about anyone but himself. He has gone so far as to say if he loses it's the fault of the jews.

It is true Democrats have started more wars but Trump is not a true Republican. He is pathologically racist in his foreign policy: hardcore against China and Iran, but very soft on Russia because they are white.

I disagree about him being soft on Russia due to whiteness. He understands China is the main threat for the coming decade and instead of pushing Russia toward the Chinese, like Nixon, he'd like to split those two apart. But the point remains Bush, Obama, Biden - that's two democrats and one republican have all been responsible for way more deaths of Muslims than Trump.

A better logic would be for Muslims to smack down Trump a second time so he never runs again. The Republican party has ZERO voices for Palestinians support but the Democratic party has many such voices.

Results are achieved by thinking rationally through the consequences of one's actions, not by throwing emotional tantrums.

I disagree here as well. The Democrats should be punished to show the political class that the Muslim vote carries weight so in the future if either democrats OR republicans think they can ignore Muslim voices they will think twice about ignoring such a voting block. This isn't an emotional tantrum it's cutting your loses and making sure you're never in this position again. While it's true republicans have no pro-Muslim voices it's also true that the democrats have actively silenced the Muslim voices and are continuing to do so. The democrats have figurehead Muslims who understand where their bread is buttered don't let them fool you. Those who want to speak up are silenced from above.

 

[Navid09]

My bet is they will just stretch it out and attack in few weeks time.

They want to slow this tit for tat out as much as possible to drag this out which is worse for Israel and also stops it from escalating quickly.

 

[FHN]

That's your interpretation.



Trump has no beliefs he'll say one thing one day and another thing the next. This is due to exactly as you say - he doesn't care about anyone but himself. He has gone so far as to say if he loses it's the fault of the jews.



I disagree about him being soft on Russia due to whiteness. He understands China is the main threat for the coming decade and instead of pushing Russia toward the Chinese, like Nixon, he'd like to split those two apart. But the point remains Bush, Obama, Biden - that's two democrats and one republican have all been responsible for way more deaths of Muslims than Trump.



I disagree here as well. The Democrats should be punished to show the political class that the Muslim vote carries weight so in the future if either democrats OR republicans think they can ignore Muslim voices they will think twice about ignoring such a voting block. This isn't an emotional tantrum it's cutting your loses and making sure you're never in this position again. While it's true republicans have no pro-Muslim voices it's also true that the democrats have actively silenced the Muslim voices and are continuing to do so. The democrats have figurehead Muslims who understand where their bread is buttered don't let them fool you. Those who want to speak up are silenced from above.

The main voting block for Democrats are African American voters and white suburban women. That's why their main policies are always about social injustice BLM and abortion lol the only problem is the Muslim votes are not big enough to change the direction of US foreign policy. They can always bring in the illegals and give them asylum in hope they will become the backbone of the democratic party. U have to understand that both parties have powerful Jewish lobby behind them and they can raise funds like no others can. We are talking about hundreds of millions from wall Street.

 

[Snake]

The main voting block for Democrats are African American voters and white suburban women. That's why their main policies are always about social injustice BLM and abortion lol the only problem is the Muslim votes are not big enough to change the direction of US foreign policy. They can always bring in the illegals and give them asylum in hope they will become the backbone of the democratic party. U have to understand that both parties have powerful Jewish lobby behind them and they can raise funds like no others can. We are talking about hundreds of millions from wall Street.

Michigan is a very important state for a presidential election and has the potential to change the outcome and it has a very high Muslim/Arab population. The stuff about the Israel lobby and AIPAC money is definitely true but it's the fault of Muslims for not building a counterweight or being able to resist the American pressure - only Iran is trying to do that.

 

[FHN]

Michigan is a very important state for a presidential election and has the potential to change the outcome and it has a very high Muslim/Arab population. The stuff about the Israel lobby and AIPAC money is definitely true but it's the fault of Muslims for not building a counterweight or being able to resist the American pressure - only Iran is trying to do that.

Both sides are doing lip service at this point to Muslim voters in Michigan but dont expect them to change any policy toward Gaza or the middle east in general. we have another 4 years before another election we don't know what happens between here and then. A lot can change because of massive influx of illegals entering the country. They will move them to where they can take votes away from the Republicans lol

 

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[Developereo]

While it's true republicans have no pro-Muslim voices it's also true that the democrats have actively silenced the Muslim voices and are continuing to do so. The democrats have figurehead Muslims who understand where their bread is buttered don't let them fool you. Those who want to speak up are silenced from above.

I am not aware of any silencing by Kamala Harris. In fact, she called out Modi on Kashmir despite her mother being Indian.

People are unfairly blaming her for Biden, Obama, Clinton failures. It is true that Zionists control everything but, of all the Dem candidates, she is by far the most sympathetic to Muslim causes, more so than Obomber.

 

[Snake]

I am not aware of any silencing by Kamala Harris. In fact, she called out Modi on Kashmir despite her mother being Indian.

People are unfairly blaming her for Biden, Obama, Clinton failures. It is true that Zionists control everything but, of all the Dem candidates, she is by far the most sympathetic to Muslim causes, more so than Obomber.

If you think she is different from Biden, Obama, etc. and won't yield to the same pressures I'm sorry but that's just naive. Here are a few of the censorship items the democrats have participated in especially related to Palestine:

- Censuring Rashida Talib https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023622
- Not giving a SINGLE Palestinian speak at the democratic convention for Harris even though they had some hostage relatives cry about their situation.
- Kicking out a Muslim democratic member for congress from a Harris event: https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/pr...c-candidate-kicked-out-harris-event-royal-oak

 

[PakFactor]

I am not aware of any silencing by Kamala Harris. In fact, she called out Modi on Kashmir despite her mother being Indian.

People are unfairly blaming her for Biden, Obama, Clinton failures. It is true that Zionists control everything but, of all the Dem candidates, she is by far the most sympathetic to Muslim causes, more so than Obomber.

My family is all set—10 votes all set for Donlad Trump. I don't know if it'll make a difference in Illinois, but anything is better than that seat warmer Harris.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Before Iran launches True Promise III, we really need to find reliable answers to these questions:

Which countries helped Israel get close to our air space?
We know that Jordan did it. We know that Iraq didn't do anything. There is some evidence suggesting that Azerbaijan helped Israel in this attack. The US is said to have provided Israel with an air corridor. If the US jet fighters escorted Israeli fighters, where did they take off from? Al-Udaida in Qatar? Both Azerbaijan and Qatar have super amicable ties with Erdogan. So, it seems that Turkey might be indirectly involved as well.

What can Iran do to limit the effects of a similar attack in future?
Without a reliable Air Force, not much. Khamenei has long been against strengthening the Air Force. Iran has mountainous terrain which makes it perfect for cruise missiles to evade radars. Our only AWACS was an Ilyushin-76 airplane that crashed years ago. If this ping-pong continues, our OTH sites will definitely be targeted next, rendering us blind against cruise missile attacks.

Also, Iran is a large country and Israel has proven times and times again that it can launch quadcopters against critical facilities in Iran by assembling them inside Iran. Other than that, our eastern border and central parts of Iran have terrible radar coverage since the Shah era and the US can help Israel launch larger drones deep into our territory.

How long can this ping-pong continue until one side gives up?
If things remain as they are, IDF having a superior air force will most likely come out victorious in this ping-pong fight, particularly if they focus on our energy infrastructure in Khuzestan instead of trying to attack deep into Iranian territory. Iran, on the other hand, at some point will run out of MRBMs and if IDF continues to target Iranian missile production sites, we won't be able to restore our stocks at a sustainable rate.

Will Iranian allies/proxies participate in the war?
If Iranian allies like Syria, Iraqi groups, Hezbollah and Houthis of Yemen do not directly get involved in the war, the situation will be really bad for Iran. Hezbollah and Syria need to keep the IDF busy on the ground (launch an invasion of Israel) and Houthis of Yemen need to enforce a blockade on Israeli trade. And this has to be meaningful. Not just token attacks without tactical or strategic value.

So, Iran doesn't seem ready for this war. Everyone agrees that economically, Iran is not ready for this war. But even from a military point of view, Iran is not ready yet. And if I were an Iranian decision maker, I wouldn't rely on Russia or China delivering game-changing weapons to Iran.

First step should be mass depleting the Israeli missiles and the US and European supply line. Iran can do this by using drones to fire glide dummy missiles/drones from high altitude. If one high altitude drone can carry 5 dummy missiles and launch them it will deplete the Israeli missile shield 5 times faster. Just need a cheap coat of high reflective large radar signal material to put on the dummy missiles. These dummy's don't need any warhead just need range to get to the Iron dones and David's shit etc.