Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Developereo]

My family is all set—10 votes all set for Donlad Trump. I don't know if it'll make a difference in Illinois, but anything is better than that seat warmer Harris.

This attitude is common amongst Pakistanis, to make impossible demands of perfection from leaders, ignore the complex realities they must manage, and then complain when they can't live up to impossible expectations and turn out to be human.

Imran Khan was not perfect, had faults as all humans do, so let's trash him and call him names. It doesn't matter that he was head and shoulders above the alternatives and was a step in the right direction. Now we see the other side doing their wonders in Pakistan.

Kamala Harris stood up for Kashmir but she is not perfect, so let's blame her for Biden's sins and trash her. It doesn't matter than Trump will reinstate the 'Muslim ban' and open up the US armory to Israel to kill Arabs and Iranians, but who cares as long as we get to 'punish' Harris?

No politicians, no human being, will ever be perfect but it's about thinking ahead and seeing which party has room for Muslims and which party is defiantly 'in your face' pro-Israel and anti-Muslim.

 

[Developereo]

If you think she is different from Biden, Obama, etc. and won't yield to the same pressures I'm sorry but that's just naive. Here are a few of the censorship items the democrats have participated in especially related to Palestine:

- Censuring Rashida Talib https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023622
- Not giving a SINGLE Palestinian speak at the democratic convention for Harris even though they had some hostage relatives cry about their situation.
- Kicking out a Muslim democratic member for congress from a Harris event: https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/pr...c-candidate-kicked-out-harris-event-royal-oak

These are all actions by the Democratic party, not Harris personally, and they pale in comparison to the Republican party platform for Muslims.

We must judge events in the context of reality, not wishful fantasy, and the fact is that the Zionists have been in America far longer than Muslims and are infinitely more powerful. Of course, they will make it difficult for Muslims to climb the political ladder but you have to open your eyes and see which party has at least got a ladder, and which party has nothing but a grave for Muslims.

A vote for Harris is not so much a vote for her, but rather a vote for to empower the Muslim politicians in Congress so they can do some good, clock some useful time, and rise up the ladder. Electing Trump will have the exact opposite effect.

 

[EyelessInGaza]

…to make impossible demands of perfection from leaders, ignore the complex realities they must manage…

No politicians, no human being, will ever be perfect but it's about thinking ahead and seeing which party has room…

Your political analysis is completely appropriate in general, not just for the US. And believe me I know, in a different context.

Politics is the art of managing different set of often competing expectations. In a democratic system, one needs to get more involved in the process, instead of choosing to stay alienated.

Unfortunately, political realities are hard to comprehend and harder to explain, so a lot of time voters end up shooting themselves in the foot because ‘their party’ isn’t doing what they want it to do.

 

[Lulldapull]

These are all actions by the Democratic party, not Harris personally, and they pale in comparison to the Republican party platform for Muslims.

We must judge events in the context of reality, not wishful fantasy, and the fact is that the Zionists have been in America far longer than Muslims and are infinitely more powerful. Of course, they will make it difficult for Muslims to climb the political ladder but you have to open your eyes and see which party has at least got a ladder, and which party has nothing but a grave for Muslims.

A vote for Harris is not so much a vote for her, but rather a vote for to empower the Muslim politicians in Congress so they can do some good, clock some useful time, and rise up the ladder. Electing Trump will have the exact opposite effect.

Thank god I made my money and left the west bhai……

Best decision I ever made.

Both the dems and the crackers just want the Muslims dead. Everyone knows.

 

[Developereo]

Your political analysis is completely appropriate in general, not just for the US. And believe me I know, in a different context.

Politics is the art of managing different set of often competing expectations. In a democratic system, one needs to get more involved in the process, instead of choosing to stay alienated.

Unfortunately, political realities are hard to comprehend and harder to explain, so a lot of time voters end up shooting themselves in the foot because ‘their party’ isn’t doing what they want it to do.

Emotional reactions almost always produce the wrong results long term.

 

[LongLiveIran]

First step should be mass depleting the Israeli missiles and the US and European supply line. Iran can do this by using drones to fire glide dummy missiles/drones from high altitude. If one high altitude drone can carry 5 dummy missiles and launch them it will deplete the Israeli missile shield 5 times faster. Just need a cheap coat of high reflective large radar signal material to put on the dummy missiles. These dummy's don't need any warhead just need range to get to the Iron dones and David's shit etc.

We already have employed dummy targets in True Promise I. The problem is that it will make Iran's attack look imprecise and weak. This time we need to show Israel that we can hurt them painfully with precision. This is also aligned with what Khamenei said recently after the Israeli attack: "We should make the Zionists understand the will and strength of our armed forces."

We have cheap ways to achieve that provided other militias like Hezbollah, Iranian personnel in Syria, Hashd Al-Sha3bi or Kataib Al-Hezbollah in Iraq join the operation. Then Israel will be pounded in such a way that no has been pounded like that before. Israel is already low on SAMs according to American reports.

 

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[Lulldapull]

We already have employed dummy targets in True Promise I. The problem is that it will make Iran's attack look imprecise and weak. This time we need to show Israel that we can hurt them painfully with precision. This is also aligned with what Khamenei said recently after the Israeli attack: "We should make the Zionists understand the will and strength of our armed forces."

We have cheap ways to achieve that provided other militias like Hezbollah, Iranian personnel in Syria, Hashd Al-Sha3bi or Kataib Al-Hezbollah in Iraq join the operation. Then Israel will be pounded in such a way that no has been pounded like that before. Israel is already low on SAMs according to American reports.

TP-1 was wildly successful bro……majority of the drones made it….…don’t be fooled. Hundreds of drones/ cruise missiles flying in low n slow from different directions flying in at 50m AGL are impossible to track, let alone stop. Most made it thru the net and struck home on the pinpoint.

Iran did TP-2 for visuals only to prove a point (pissing contest)……

We know what happened in TP-1. Whole lotta experience the IRGC has long gleaned from Ukraine on how to do it right, and bust the drones/ cruise missiles thru the worst possible conditions. Done it many times before and successfully.

Irans not amateur. TP-1 was the shit! TP-2 was Hollywood.

 

[vmro]

Michigan is a very important state for a presidential election and has the potential to change the outcome and it has a very high Muslim/Arab population. The stuff about the Israel lobby and AIPAC money is definitely true but it's the fault of Muslims for not building a counterweight or being able to resist the American pressure - only Iran is trying to do that.

Arabians are doomed in terms of organizational ability, from military chains to NGO, this is unique issue of deep mutual distrust, tribal elitism and inertia that exist about 1000 years...

But American Iranian Council is different story, there are few organizations that present themselves to be Iranian factors, but some are bribed by Jewish lobby and some are MEK connected...

AIC is only match for Jewish lobby, more participants are Americans than Iranians, but they are not enemies or betrayer of Iran....their efforts will be more effective in the time that comes...and already are, in some instances...

 

[StrategicBear]

Iran should issue Public Statements now that the leaders of Gulf countries are directly responsible if US planes taking off from their territory bombs Iran.

Hinting that Iranian missiles could target residential places of those traitorous sheikhs, or assassinating them for colluding with Iran's enemies. The time playing nice guy is over, Iran must be aggressive and take out Jordan's king and all these traitorous Fake Muslims.

 

[PakFactor]

This attitude is common amongst Pakistanis, to make impossible demands of perfection from leaders, ignore the complex realities they must manage, and then complain when they can't live up to impossible expectations and turn out to be human.

Imran Khan was not perfect, had faults as all humans do, so let's trash him and call him names. It doesn't matter that he was head and shoulders above the alternatives and was a step in the right direction. Now we see the other side doing their wonders in Pakistan.

Kamala Harris stood up for Kashmir but she is not perfect, so let's blame her for Biden's sins and trash her. It doesn't matter than Trump will reinstate the 'Muslim ban' and open up the US armory to Israel to kill Arabs and Iranians, but who cares as long as we get to 'punish' Harris?

No politicians, no human being, will ever be perfect but it's about thinking ahead and seeing which party has room for Muslims and which party is defiantly 'in your face' pro-Israel and anti-Muslim.

My motives are entirely different; while I understand the pains Muslims are going through, it's their own doing, and they continue to show a lack of leadership; there's not much voting can do to help them if they can't help themselves. Case in point: Pakistan continues to burn their own house; neither Harris nor Trump can help them; the best I can do is help myself until they get their house in order.

Recently, a retired Admiral by the name of X X X X X X X X X, in a private conversation, became utterly racist with regards to a section of his countrymen to the point of calling for casting out all Pathans from Pakistan as he claimed India did the same, and hence their advancing economically. You see his tribalistic mindset. Now imagine a Pathan who served under him and saluted him, and now he sees his ex-commander for who he is. You see, Muslims don't learn and will never learn.

My motive is financial with Trump; I want him to do his trade war with China, as the last time it created an opening for me. As in finance and war, you are afforded a small window of opportunity, and I intend he makes it for me to grab it.

Your post below answered the most crucial question that has guided my actions throughout my last two decades. Either I became self-sufficient or die hoping for some union with the current lot of Muslims, which would get me nowhere as it currently stands. You might call it self-centered or selfish, but everyone's history and past are different, shaping them, and they cling to what's best for survival.

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Nov 5, 2024

Well it is masterful divide and rule by the Zionists.

Let's be honest, the fault is in ourselves.

King Faisal was strong, Gaddafi was strong. We had strong leaders but they were killed off by other Muslims and the slaves took over.

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[Liquidator]

All attacks so far, I believe, appear to be via mobile launchers.

The kufaar are watching Iran like a hawk so it is easy for them to tell once launchers are in place and ready to launch.....it isn't rocket science! This gives ample warning to their mad dog.

However, what if Iran were to use underground launch platforms from the missile cities? You have all seen the conveyer belt system....its a ballistic version of a machine gun.

Theoretically the warning if launched using that system would be less than 30 min?

 

[StrategicBear]

Take out all of Israel's weapons manufacturing plants and radar sites. Naval bases should be targeted too.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Kind of suprised to not see many blast doors in a lot of these videos. Even an accident in one of the tunnels that causes an explosion can take out a lot of these tunnels given how closely packed some of these missiles are.

 

[Liquidator]

Kind of suprised to not see many blast doors in a lot of these videos. Even an accident in one of the tunnels that causes an explosion can take out a lot of these tunnels given how closely packed some of these missiles are.

Yes bro
Also don't see any no smoking signs, no ball game signs etc

These Iranians are very incompetent!!!