Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Iran should go nuclear like North Korea and all none sense will stop with going nuclear
  • North Korea went Nuclear and no issue in 2006
There is no substitute for Nuclear Deterrence

Before North Korea detonated a Bomb in testing every one tried to scare North Korea with destruction and chaos

But it is almost 20 years now and North Korea has held the Nuclear Bomb and no one has dared to light up a fire cracker near North Korea

Have you seen anyone try to start a war with North Korea ? Nope
 
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Well Nuclear Tech is way forward for Iran

if we look at Ukraine ,the reason why they lost half of country is they gave up nuke in 90's , who came to their rescue in war , no one

They actually had Nuclear weapon but it was exchanged for some trivial asset

Just build it get it over it , and stock pile it
  • 10
  • 25
  • 50

If anyone threatens again , stock pile another 100

There will be lasting peace

North Korea has had it since 2006 not one plane or missile flew into North Korea and never will because they also have 25-50 Submarines
  • Did anyone bomb North Korea - No
  • Did anyone send missile into North Korea - No
  • Did anyone attack foreign minister of Nation - No
  • Did anyone attack oil tanker for iran or kidnap tanker - NO

Look forward to announcement of Iran announcing nuclear Nation
It would be welcomed news in region

Facts on Iran
Since Iraq-Iran war (80's) , Iran has mostly been inactive in direct war
 
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no , ballistic missiles with conventional warheads are useless against military targets
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This has long been the accepted view towards ballistic missiles with ranges over 500 km but this is no longer the case.

Modern ring laser gyroscopes with satellite corrections can improve the accuracy of MRBMs to a CEP of less than 10m which is good for many scenarios. Iran needs to have a local positioning system covering our neighboring countries to stop its reliance on foreign sat guidance. We planned to have one but it was silently cancelled, like most of our other plans.

Who would've thought that Ahmadinejad, the guy who unveled Qaher-313 (lol), would be the last Iranian president that actually helps the country advance in science and engineering? Un-f*cking-believable.
 
Araghchi: "The issue of enrichment is not at all a subject for negotiation", we will not back down under any circumstances

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We're currently witnessing completely unreasonable & illogical stances from US. Enrichment is absolutely not-negotiable. I've given a clear response in past few days, & today the Leader also set the path forward. We will under no circumstances back down from our rights.

Khamenei: American demands are "nonsense", we aren’t waiting for anyone’s permission

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Larijani mocks US demands: next they will demand we shouldn't learn physics or maths because this can be used to make nukes, and we should stick to music and dancing

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negotiations are doomed if US doesn't retreat from its ridiculous demand of no enrichment. Iran will not compromise on that.

Does Trump want a deal or to continue the same failed Zionist demands?
 
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convenient timing for this latest report (which we have seen a million times in the last year). designed to encourage Iran to negotiate? not going to work if USA will not respect Iranian redlines.
 
I hope we have good intelligence gathering on IDF positions in Syria

we can test effectiveness of new Qasem-Basir there. Israeli ABM capabilities will not extend to Syria so we will have free shots

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Intercepted Israeli communications and military movements indicate an imminent strike on Iranian facilities.

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Intercepted Israeli communications and military movements indicate an imminent strike on Iranian facilities.

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they leak this information just as Iran insists on enrichment, suggesting talks with US will fail

psychological warfare only

how many times in last years have we read this exact same news churned out by western papers
 
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I hope we have good intelligence gathering on IDF positions in Syria

we can test effectiveness of new Qasem-Basir there. Israeli ABM capabilities will not extend to Syria so we will have free shots

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Base 3 - 1:54-3:05 - 33.102769, 35.853684

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It's not easy to hit their military assets. Where do they hide Iron Dome interceptors? Munitions ? Civilian warehouses ? Underground storages?

Do they have underground runways ?

Where are their missile silos hidden ? Tel Aviv and Negev Desert ?

If Iran gets attacked it needs to not bother with military targets and hit civilian infrastructure as fast as possible. Also aim to get high body count. Aiming missiles/drones at Golan would be exactly what Israel wants. Won't affect them in any way.
 
Persian Gulf said:
they leak this information just as Iran insists on enrichment, suggesting talks with US will fail

psychological warfare only

how many times in last years have we read this exact same news churned out by western papers
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I personally don't believe Israel is capable of an effective strike on Iranian nuclear program and military. So I'll never believe news like that. Netanyahu is not a risk taker, either. He loves bombing Gaza because it's tiny and defenseless, can't fight back in any meaningful way.
 
Falcon29 said:
It's not easy to hit their military assets. Where do they hide Iron Dome interceptors? Munitions ? Civilian warehouses ? Underground storages?

Do they have underground runways ?

Where are their missile silos hidden ? Tel Aviv and Negev Desert ?

If Iran gets attacked it needs to not bother with military targets and hit civilian infrastructure as fast as possible. Also aim to get high body count. Aiming missiles/drones at Golan would be exactly what Israel wants. Won't affect them in any way.
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their bases in Syria (not Golan, new areas) include housing of soldiers and these are within 1000km of Iran and virtually undefended

counter value strikes definitely needed too - I made this thread before:

Persian Gulf

Thread 'Databank of critical nodes of Israeli economy & infrastructure'

I would like to create a databank / map of the key nodes of Israel's economy / infrastructure / military, with coordinates and photos of each, categorised.

Proposed categories:

(1) Power plants (1-5)

(2) Water desalination plants (6-10)

(3) Other energy facilities (petrochemical etc)

(4) HQs (Mossad HQ, IDF HQ, Unit 8200 HQ, Shin Bet HQ, etc)

(5) Nuclear reactors

(6) Other strategic infrastructure

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Power plants and desalination plants are paired together:

(1) Orot Rabin power plant and (7) Hadera desalination plant

(2) Rutenberg power plant and (8) Ashkelon...
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