Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Tijani]

Iran should not negotiate the NPT. Iran is a member, and as a member state, it is permitted to enrich up to 90%. The only thing that should be negotiated is weaponization. Anything else is treason and betrayal of the Iranian nation.

At the end, the neon psychopathic butchers are not interested in anything other than war and bloodshed. Anything else is a Trojan horse for future devastation. The Russian negotiations should be a litmus test. The West is inflicting maximum damage while at the same time saying we want peace.

Iran is the first and only NNWS to have openly enriched to 60%. It's the closest case any NNWS has come to openly enriching to 90%. Any move toward 90% without a plausible civilian justification would be seen as a direct step toward nuclear weapons, especially in Iran's case, triggering a major international crisis or war.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Clarification:

The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) does not explicitly specify permissible levels of uranium enrichment (e.g., 3.5%, 20%, or 90%) for non-nuclear-weapon states (NNWS). Instead, it establishes broad non-proliferation obligations, while allowing peaceful nuclear activities under safeguards. Here’s a breakdown of the legal framework:

1. Core NPT Obligations Relevant to Enrichment
- Article II (NNWS pledge): Non-nuclear-weapon states commit not to acquire nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices.
- Article III.1: NNWS must accept IAEA safeguards (verification) on all nuclear material to ensure it is not diverted to weapons.
- Article IV.1: Recognizes the "inalienable right" of states to develop peaceful nuclear energy, including uranium enrichment, provided it complies with Articles I, II, and III.

2. Limits Implied by the NPT
While the NPT does not ban enrichment, any activity must:
- Be for peaceful purposes (e.g., fuel for reactors, medical isotopes).
- Not support weaponization (violating Article II).
- Be subject to IAEA safeguards (Article III).

Key Point: There is no explicit NPT prohibition on enriching to 90% (weapons-grade), but producing such material without a peaceful justification would inherently raise proliferation concerns and likely violate Article II.

3. Additional Legal Constraints
- IAEA Safeguards Agreements (CSA/AP): States must declare nuclear activities and allow inspections. The IAEA investigates anomalies (e.g., undeclared enrichment to high levels).
- UN Security Council Resolutions: May impose enrichment limits (e.g., Iran under Resolution 2231, which capped enrichment at 3.67% until 2023).
- Voluntary Commitments: Some states forgo enrichment via treaties (e.g., Pelindaba Treaty) or bilateral agreements (e.g., UAE pledged not to enrich).

4. Case Law & Precedents
- Iran (JCPOA): While not an NPT violation per se, Iran’s pre-2015 enrichment to 20% raised concerns, leading to negotiated restrictions.
- North Korea: Withdrew from the NPT and pursued weapons-grade enrichment, violating its earlier obligations.

Conclusion
The NPT does not set technical limits on enrichment but prohibits weaponization. Enrichment to 90% without a peaceful purpose would likely breach Article II, especially if concealed from the IAEA. Compliance depends on safeguards adherence and intent, with the IAEA and UNSC judging violations case by case.

thank you for the AI response chat gpt

and your AI is hallucinating. I never said there is a prohibition on 90% enrichment in the NPT.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Khamenei strongly rejects US proposal

 

[Tijani]

thank you for the AI response chat gpt

and your AI is hallucinating. I never said there is a prohibition on 90% enrichment in the NPT.

The AI says you're most welcome It's actually DeepSeek
I never said that you did. I just made a "clarification" concerning the matter to state that there's actually no legal restrictions concerning enrichment to 90%. I myself was unsure and had to ask.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Iran is the first and only NNWS to have openly enriched to 60%. It's the closest case any NNWS has come to openly enriching to 90%. Any move toward 90% without a plausible civilian justification would be seen as a direct step toward nuclear weapons, especially in Iran's case, triggering a major international crisis or war.

Technically you can enrich uranium to 93% for peaceful purposes .
The original tehran research reactor used 93% enriched uranium

 

[Falcon29]

Did US make up it's mind about enrichment ? One time it says 3.67% while other time it says no enrichment.

US doesn't have a plan. Besides trying to scare Iran into making concessions. It doesn't have anything operational in action. Especially since Gulf Arabs refuse to allow them to use their countries as launching pads.

Iran would be smart to stick to it's guns.

 

[ShapurII]

Khamenei is playing the same old "man naboodam dastam bood, taghsire astinam bood". Using the reformists as an excuse to impose another bad deal on Iran, like the JCPOA.

If he's truly against negotiations, the negotiations should stop immediately. The US is clearly not interested in resolving our issues. Their main focus is to defang Iran by placing limits on our nuclear program. There is no point in negotiation with the US in this case.

The only solution left is to go nuclear.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Khamenei said the US and Israel "can't do a damn thing"

It's so over

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[BigMela2onin]

Khamenei said the US and Israel "can't do a damn thing"

It's so over

Maybe he should lift that fatwa already then.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Maybe he should lift that fatwa already then.

the last time he said the US can't do a damn thing about something it ended in disaster within 48 hours

 

[ShapurII]

Khamenei said the US and Israel "can't do a damn thing"

It's so over

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Last time he said the Americans can't do a damn thing, they assassinated Gen. Soleimani in Iraq less than 48 hours after he said it.

I'm not saying that they can do anything about our nuclear program, but it's easy to run your mouth without a plan. The status quo is against us. We need to come up with a strategy to force the Americans to accept our conditions. And other than going overtly nuclear, I can't see a way out.

Also, if he truly believes in that, it's better to stop the negotiations with the US right now. They have demanded too much from us and offered nothing in return. What's the point of these negotiations when the Americans are humiliating us and offer nothing in return?

Khamenei thinks because they haven't attacked us, time has frozen and other countries are doing nothing to counter us and undermine our influence. We are losing our influence in the region day by day and he thinks it is acceptable.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Last time he said the Americans can't do a damn thing, they assassinated Gen. Soleimani in Iraq less than 48 hours after he said it.

I'm not saying that they can do anything about our nuclear program, but it's easy to run your mouth without a plan. The status quo is against us. We need to come up with a strategy to force the Americans to accept our conditions. And other than going overtly nuclear, I can't see a way out.

Also, if he truly believes in that, it's better to stop the negotiations with the US right now. They have demanded too much from us and offered nothing in return. What's the point of these negotiations when the Americans are humiliating us and offer nothing in return?

I may be wrong but your program has likely been compromised enough that even covert attempts to build a weapon would be discovered.

Note, I am not part of the govt. I'm just a retired guy and not following as closely as maybe I should be. What would Iran like in return?

 

[ShapurII]

I may be wrong but your program has likely been compromised enough that even covert attempts to build a weapon would be discovered.

Note, I am not part of the govt. I'm just a retired guy and not following as closely as maybe I should be. What would Iran like in return?

It is compromised. There is no other explanation for the status quo. The US doesn't even need to attack Iran. It just needs to wait until the economy of Iran collapses, or civil unrest erupts again.

1. Complete annulment of US secondary sanctions, at least.
2. Preferably annulment of US primary sanctions on civilian goods and services, if not all.
3. Resolving the issue of the snapback mechanism.

I think these conditions should be the bare minimum for any negotiation with the US. If the US fails to offer these, there should be no negotiation with the US.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The requests as you've listed them do not seem unreasonable. At least not from my perspective. But I'm an engineer, not a diplomat.