Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

lets wait to find out, Iran is a very corageous and daring nation, but lets c

 

[Falcon29]

This is all media sensationalism as pressure tactic. We know Israel can do a few airstrikes in Iran. Maybe 20-30. It can't take significant action. Not sure what the plan is here. But if Iran allows one wave of strikes without a deterring response, it could become routine until they or others are confident enough to jump in and expand scope of attacks.

Iran isn't facing an existential threat but it's a good idea to now race towards nuclear weapons since it's allies are battered and won't have a big impact for at least another 5 years.

 

[Falcon29]

We will see continued media sensationalism like this up into next week. Probably Friday night or Saturday they'll claim Israeli jets are in air and hitting any minute.

They wouldn't cheroegraph an actual attack. And Israel doesn't have guts to go at it alone.

They can try 20-30 airstrikes. We know Iran airspace isn't fully protected.

Centcom and US are basically doing same thing now as right before TP2, build up defenses around Israel to help protect it from counter strike.

Now it's possible Israel want to strike to make Iran race to nuclear weapons then try to throw ball in NATO's court to intervene on large scale or allow Iran to become nuclear power.

I don't believe that will play out as Israeli's might be thinking. And I don't believe Israel will actually do a operation in Iran.

Iran has upperhand here in negotiations will retain right to enrichment, which US will eventually concede similar to Obama deal.

 

[Falcon29]

Israel won't do crap. It's a embarrassing negotiation tactic by the US after they realized Iran won't back down on enrichment. And shouldn't. Because they have the advantage right now. Israel is stuck in two campaigns in Gaza and Lebanon, somewhat Syria as well, atm.

US will cry and whine then impose sanctions after talks fail.

 

[Falcon29]

 

[Falcon29]

Israel cannot mount a attack on Iran. But nevertheless daddy USA is trying to deploy all our military assets to minimize any punishment of Israel by anyone in the region.

Ukrainians and Europeans should be angry that the entire US military defensive assets are being deployed for Israel to feel safe while genociding Palestinians.
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CBS quoting a US official: We are capable of defending Israel against Iranian ballistic missiles if it is attacked

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Israel being Israel , they will look for days like Friday , Eid , Ashura or other holidays to do their bidding

They were still killing people on Eid Ul Adha in Palestine and also during Haj season the killing did not stopped

• Holiest period for Muslims around globe
• You go Aljazeerah you can see the carnage , you visit western website it's quite mellowed down

Looking at ground realities of Genocide , unsure what does IAEA want to achieve ?

If I was in-charge IAEA would be kicked out within 24 hours from Country
for Espionage charges against Iranian Scientist

Iran Give up more info on their scientist or assets and then 4-5 years later when Israel is full strength , come back and start war talk ?


If a Resolution could not protect Palestine , then no Resolution has any weight these institutes have lost their purpose


But since Donald want to discuss peace , there is no harm to discuss peace , I don't see Iran at war with any nation

• However if Netinyahu feels he is bigger than Trump then of course Iran will have to reluctantly respond and a very Impactful manner

 

[Persian Gulf]

bipolar TACO

 

[ShapurII]

One thing is a no-brainer here:

Iran should inform the US that any adventurism by Israel will be directly linked to the US. We should hold the US responsible for any strike by Israel.

 

[Falcon29]

Israel cannot do any meaningful strike on Iran. It will get man handled by Iran.

Basically it will try doing strike to make Iranians angry and withdraw from NPT and enrich towards nuclear weapons. To try scaring world (US and NATO) to take action and do suistained bombing campaigns which it (Israel) doesn't have capability to do.

But even that it won't do unless it got greenlight to do so. I don't see US having green lit that.

It's the right time for Iran to take advantage of situation and announce nuclear weapons capability. Israel is powerless and doesn't have guts to do anything.

 

[OldTwilight]

candidates for new enrichment site:

Qazvin (200-250m underground)
Isfahan (250m underground)
New Natanz site (150m underground)

by comparison:

Natanz (20m underground with 8m of reinforced concrete)
Fordow (80-100m underground)

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no number of 30,000lb GBU-57 bombs (which only the US has) can destroy a facility 200m under hard rock / mountain. even a nuclear bunker buster like B61 would probably not be able to do that.

their best bet is to destroy all the entrances and power supply and ventilators, but that can be fixed.

as shown in Yemen , there are drilling machine inside underground base for this kind of situation

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

bipolar TACO

Trump is smart , stay away from war , focus on trade trying to patch the hole up , a big patch dug up by Biden

• Netinyaho in Israel (Just no credibility)
• Zelenski in Ukraine (Just no credibility, getting pounded by Russians)

One of the folklore that Israel like to portray is that their land is untouchable they can get away with any crime

However it has been shown not to be true

• They have lost assets vs local Resistance forces
• Iran has penetrated their shell (with very minimal offensive display)
• Yamen has penetrated their shell

There is no Divinity if you are committing Genocide
Or violating every Human Right Charter across the globe
Or forcing sanctions on International Court of Justice because they stated Israel as guilty

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Also there is chatter among Russian sources , that Israel was involved in the airport attacks conducted against Russian Bombers , and some how Patriot missiles were supplied to Ukraine (illegally as well)

Source RT.Com (Alternative news source)

 

[SaadH]

Trump is smart , stay away from war , focus on trade trying to patch the hole up , a big patch dug up by Biden

• Netinyaho in Israel (Just no credibility)
• Zelenski in Ukraine (Just no credibility, getting pounded by Russians)

One of the folklore that Israel like to portray is that their land is untouchable they can get away with any crime

However it has been shown not to be true

• They have lost assets vs local Resistance forces
• Iran has penetrated their shell (with very minimal offensive display)
• Yamen has penetrated their shell

There is no Divinity if you are committing Genocide
Or violating every Human Right Charter across the globe
Or forcing sanctions on International Court of Justice because they stated Israel as guilty

Problem is Trump's handlers are all zionists and they ultimately call all the shots. Israel will attack Iran despite Trump's warning them not to and US won't be able to do jack $hit against Israel, cause all of Trump's daddies are zionists.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Pakistan will play the game, but it's not in Pakistans interest to allow any action against Iran, same goes with Turkey

Pakistan and Turkiye ARE part and parcel of the region... one with its soil and an amalgam of its faith, cultures, ethnicities and cuisines.

Europe has no qualms about any such thing... they murdered each other with impunity in the two world wars and have been killing people in the region to maintain their last colony...

For them they might as well be dealing with Martians!

For far too long people in the region gave benefit of the doubt or took whatever they got out of it as cost of doing business or just life itself. No longer!

The tumor must be excised, Europe and its colonies returned back to their domains.

Zion only demands a right to exist because it doesn't!!!