Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[jburke]

we should build nuke , if khamenei oppose it , then he should be force to retirement...

for years we are saying the only way to secure Iran infrastructure is to build nuke , but he refused...

we can't pay for his wrong judgement

He is a sane man, full of compassion and love. A true follower of Prophet Mohammad and Imam Ali

 

[OldTwilight]

It was. This is what happens when you think air force is a joke.

All military powers in the world spend most of their money on their air force. And here we had idiots who said we cannot afford an air force. So, we should create proxy groups. Where are these proxy groups now?

@Persian Gulf and I had this exact conversation a week before the war. He said I was being stubborn for not accepting that our investment on regional proxies, instead of an air force, was a huge failure.

with this kind of infliration , even Su57s would be targeted on the ground

 

[Ali_Baba]

Is the regional base they referring to Cyprus or Jordan ?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Could've paid China in oil.

Thanks, genius. If only we thought about that. (Spoiler: China didn't want to sell us any military equipment because of UN sanctions and then US sanctions.)

So all muslim countries are going to sit and watch while us-israel alliance turns another muslim country into dust?

did you expect anything different? None of them did anything to help Sunni Arab Palestinians in a genocide in Gaza, you think they will help Shia Persians who they hate more than Israel? lol

 

[PakAl]

You have to understand the mentality and psyche of the ruling regime (Islamic Republic) to understand the strange decisions and mindset.

It is a regime based on slogans since the late 70's. So many slogans until their own generals and commanders believed in it.

How do you explain being on the brink of war and your commanders going to sleep in their pyjamas at home? There is only one explanation for that.

I understand clearly, we have mullahs in the west too, aswell in Pakistan. Alot of the statements and slogans they make are just to keep the people happy, to rally them. But behind the scenes it's completely different scenario. The Iranian army used to be professional army, with elite mentality, maybe Iranian regime should have listened to them, kept them professional, kept themselves to themselves, and have a balanced relationship with everyone, slowly rise as great military and economic power in the middleeast, then make good relations with Turkey Pakistan China, Iran would be untouchable.

 

[K2RULEZ]

Why are all Sunni gulf monarchies so spineless? I do understand that they love the USD more than everything, but they dont have any sense of honor left in them, its just mind-blowing...

They are not spineless. They are complicit.

 

[ARMalik]

curious where do you think Netanyahu and Israeli leaders are during wartime

Sorry I did not want to be disrespectful - I am just very angry at the incompetence of some Iranian leaders. How the fuk did we get to this stage where another Muslim country is being destroyed like it is another Gaza. THIS IS TRULY HEART-BREAKING. And that is why I am angry.

 

[brazensword]

He is a sane man, full of compassion and love. A true follower of Prophet Mohammad and Imam Ali

They fought wars when it was necessary.

 

[TallGuy]

@TallGuy As bengalis turned against Pakistan Army in 71, a sizeable portion of Iran/Tehran/major cities population who were manhandled/tortured/threatened by Khameni regime has turned against them and providing support to Israel. Protests, killings of Basij and other Militias in the name of religion and wearing scarf is finally biting Mullah regime in the back. You can't find traitors so quickly, you have to put large number of people in jail in order to make traitor hunt successful.

you have a point, but thats not bengal! its iran

i am old enogh to see worse situation when i was there i have seen war of Cities, i seen Tehran getting empty people leaving tehran due to scuds. daily

i have seen Basij /Pasdaran coming to Khomeni in 1982 asking to close the war as they have evicted Iraqis from Iranian Soil and i saw Rafsanjani Forced Khomaini to say no - we will extend.

And i have heard there when special meeting was called in 1988 after Iranian navy was sunk by US and the same rafsanjani asking what do we need? how many aeroplanes/tanks/soldiers? whole armed forces General staff was there.. when reallity was clearly told. he made khomaini agree to ceasefire.

I am old enough!

Iranis tend to stand firm in face national crises. it is time they stand firm!

 

[Sarhang]

The IR will fall if things remain like this for 2 weeks.

Their anti-Israeli stance is their last remaining pillar. If it falls, next protests will bring them down. Even the IRGC could rise against them next time. And next protests will be very soon if they lose this war in the scale they are losing now.

For the IRGC/Artesh elements to rise and declare some kind of coupdetat the Israeli strikes need to be more frequent and effective. At the moment it is not sufficient.

 

[mangekyo]

Problem becomes how will you rebuild anything when the jews are going to come bomb anything they want? The priority now should be building deliverable nukes, restoring AD systems, and building a proper air force last.

We can’t build nukes now that Israel controls the skies. If IRI can’t push Israeli planes out, then Iran will become like Syria and IRI will be toppled.

 

[OldTwilight]

I will say that I am disappointed in Hezbollah not intervening. We should immediately cancel all our financial assistance to them for reconstruction. Iraqis and Yemenis have intervened to strike Israel with us. But not Hezbollah. Strange.

the Hezbollah is mini IRI، crrupted to the core

 

[Brutal.]

Muslim countries that don't have an airforce lol.
Muslims bow down to Israel their new God, just look at GCC, they recently put up their virgin daughters up for display for Trump.

Its such a shame. Our ancestors have such a strong history and they have ruled the world with pure courage and iman. These days the rich muslims want to protect their wealth and turn a blind eye to the suffering brothers. Too sad.

 

[ShapurII]

Cant afford airforce with all that oil money?

They talk about sanctions, but I believe sanctions alone are not the reason. We had opportunities to acquire jet fighters but the regime simply ignored them.

The IR always held a grudge against the IRIAF because the IRIAF was too secular and American-minded. The IRIAF attempted to stage a coup and bomb Khomeini's residence in 1980, making the Ayatollahs fearful of possibly the most important branch of our military before the revolution.

 

[jburke]

At this rate, Israel will lose all of their F-35's within a week. Show it Iran or just don't share bullshit.

So now you know stealth is the biggest hype! Be it F35, Su57 or J35 all hot air.

Iranian air defence is derived from Soviet/Russian systems.

F117 Nighthawk