Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hakwa Nadro]

I think the very bad news was this guy almost got annihilated by a Iranian missile

must have heard netanyahu farting

 

[RescueRanger]

After all this tit for tat I believe only Americans and Britain’s will support Israel, Europe maybe scratch there head and shake head but

I guess either it got hacked or operator was fucking pissed and went into suicidal mood. He was like mai to dooba hu sanam tum sab ko sath mai le dobo ga

What the hell happened there?

 

[HAIDER]

Ukraine's pattern hit inside Russia ...

 

[Tamerlane]

The best thing Trump can do is to get Netanyahu whacked and blame it on Iran. This way he would get rid of the biggest headache for himself, his country, and the world.

 

[Shams313]

I know everyone is celebrating the Israelis getting a taste of their own medicine but let's assess the damage on each side:

Israel:
No IDF soldiers killed
1-2 AD sites damaged
Haifa Oil Refinery Damanged
Some impacts at Nevatim Airbase (?)
approx 10 civilians killed
Psychological impact of capital being hit

Iran:
Top Leadership wiped out
Nuclear and missile sites attacked and damaged multiple times
AD/S-300s almost entirely wiped out
Remaining AAA/SHORAD only managing to shoot down a few drones here and there
Many airbases and airports damaged
Multiple Oil Depots destroyed
Oil refinery damaged/destroyed
Gas field damaged/destroyed
Missile
Approx 100+ civilians martyred
Psychological impact of capital being hit

In isolation Iran might be able to sustain this rate of attrition against Israel, but the Americans are flying a massive tanker fleet over and their euro doggies are wagging their tails

Now the crazy cracheads in chairs. They gonna bomb the ahit out of Israel. Guess whose fault is this.

 

[wangdefa]

LOL, a binoculars are not going to spot a F-16 or F-36 coming your way. Iran needs to reestablish control of its airspace and deny access to Israeli jets.

No air defense system, no air force, everything you say is unrealistic empty words. Although sympathetic, we must accept the reality.Israel's territory is too small to fight a protracted war, and Iran can only trade space for time.

 

[RescueRanger]

Ukraine's pattern hit inside Russia ...

UK SAS used to do this sort of stuff when Ukraine Special Forces weren't even an itch in their daddies underpants. Commando tactics with the exception of a few things really haven't evolved all that much.

 

[arjunk]

Okay so what do you want ?

What do you mean what do 'i" want? Iran's objective is to stop Israel from annihlating Iranian economy and nuclear program. Israeli objective is the latter + survive as a state + regime change as an optional bonus within two weeks.

Iran is fighting against at least a 30 country strong coalition. You want them to win in every area unconditionally right away ?

Did you read my post? Where did I say Iran has to march to Jerusalem?

Iran is huge, Israel is tiny, Iran has huge regional support, nobody wants Israel, Iranians have large appetite for losses. Israel does not ..

I literally said Iran can sustain a higher rate of attrition than Israel

So any such comparison is pointless, especially the way you are presenting it as if its some kind of failure on Iran's part. This war is not about numbers, its about Iran defending its Nuclear program and Freedom, while punching Israel in the face.

Clearly state the objectives Iran has.

Defending its nuclear program? The Israelis have already bombed Iranian nuclear sites multiple times. The Israelis are currently just doing small surface attacks on underground facilities but can escalate all the way to use of nukes from Jericho 2/3, that is assuming Americans (who made it clear Iran cannot have nuke) aren't dragged into the conflict. The Israelis have also been killing Iranian scientists with impunity well before the conflict started so rebuilding is not as easy as it seems.

As mentioned many, many times before, Iran endured 8 years of daily attacks from Iraq, backed by Israel and US, most of Iran devastated, but it did not buckle then. So its insha Allah not gonna buckle if Israel destroys a few things for a few days. Israel is getting more beaten up already than Saddam Hussein got beaten up in a Month, on average. So again, all these comparisons mean nothing in the context of this conflict. Iran is breaking the will of Israelis every day which is the important part

Will of civilians is weak, but militaries are trained to deal with morale loss in war.

Not a single Israeli soldier has even been killed yet.

You say that the strikes on Tel Aviv demoralize Israelis, sure, but the strikes on Tehran also demoralized Iranians, did you read this thread earlier? If anything Israeli settlers couldn't care less if the land they stole is attacked, they can always run back to Europe.

Iran seeks to defend its nuclear capabilities. To do that it has to stop Israeli attacks on Iranian soil. To do that it must degrade IDF strike capabilities which it hasn't. It's too early to declare Iranian defeat but also too early to declare Israel's downfall has begun lol.

Israel is avoiding hitting too hard in hopes of initiating a regime change, once that changes and Iran starts sending larger waves then the real war begins.

Let's wait a week or so and see. If Iran can eliminate Israeli AD, and then move to Israeli AF targets, It will be a significant event.

 

[Falcon26]

@Persian Gulf

I am not sure but there seems to be successful interceptions here but the debris was still powerful enough to cause an explosion.

 

[That_Guy]

@Persian Gulf

I am not sure but there seems to be successful interceptions here but the debris was still powerful enough to cause an explosion.

Those look like missed Interceptions.

 

[ToddE]

Those leading the war in the operational room in Khatam al-Anbeya' are confirming to be extremely capable, very knoweldgeable of Israel's most sensitive places and the Israeli society limits.

TBH I was not expecting such level of efficiency from IRGCAF. I am not 100% sure than if it comes to battle IRGCN and IRIN will turn out to be same.

IRIAF clowns watch and learn you idiots.

 

[Developereo]

Sorry this made me chuckle a little bit because it reminded me of trying to find parking in this really annoying place in Pindi called Hathi Chowk. .

If you can park a car there without it getting scratched or dented you can park it anywhere.

Bro, we are all hurting to see Israel roam with impunity all over Iran and bomb anything they want at will. Iran clearly needs to regain control of its skies.

If people with military experience can propose other solutions, I am all for it but we need to be creative. Israel scores points by thinking creatively and not doing things by the book.

There are those who do things by the book, and then there are those who write the next books.

 

[tower9]

I don't believe Iran has restored deterrence, yet. But they may have made the political echelon in Israel rethink what their war objectives should be. Which is the first step towards restoring deterrence.

It's too early. This can escalate. Iran can hit ammonia storages or hit Dimona. That's when it gets really serious and Israel will find out.

But also risks US attack on Iran. But soon Iran may have nothing to lose depending on how this progresses. If US doesn't show signs of restraining Israel and continues arming it, it will escalate.

Iran needs to go up the escalation ladder and just keep the hits coming and take out all of their infrastructure.

Israel will show no mercy if Iran goes down. Look at Syria. If the Iranian govt collapses, israel will bomb all of Irans assets to the Stone Age. This is an existential fight.

 

[Falcon29]

The bad thing about this is it's negotiations under fire now. Israel/US are trying to get Iran to surrender nuclear program. If Iran does that they'll request to surrender ballistic missile program.

The US demands are irrational and crazy. Israel is demanding the whole region to surrender.

There's no off ramp here because US and Israel are insane and on a genocidal rampage in the region.

Iran may feel it has nothing to lose soon. It will remain calculated but the US and Israel are not giving it any good options.

 

[ToddE]

@Persian Gulf

I am not sure but there seems to be successful interceptions here but the debris was still powerful enough to cause an explosion.

Those are 2 x Fattah hypersonic missiles vs dozen or so SAMs. They still got through.