Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakFactor]

Ruthless Khawaja strikes again

He, too, is part of the problem and should quietly wait his turn.

Jahil josh pona dakana ki za rurat nai ha.

 

[Persian Gulf]

are these tribes any good with weaponry?

they are nomadic patriots but not exactly black ops super soldiers

 

[SaadH]

The scientist assasinations over the years, the embassy bombing in Syria - gave them TP1 to study, the Ismail Haniyeh assassination let them test their atgm inside Iran with their agents, the Hezbollah decapitation strike confirmed their intel was reliable well established, TP2 confirmed they can get at Irans air defence at a stand off range. Add all this up and you get this Israeli invasion.

Iranian leadership had so many opportunities and clues but in the end I think overconfidence or being too scared came back to bite them.

Lesson to muslim nations be brave dont hesitate against this kind of enemy they feed of your fear.

Go after real enemies, not PTI protesters...don't empower the real enemies by putting them in the gov't. We all know the treacherous role PPP/Zardari has played over the years. But when the GHQ itself is severely compromised and on CIA payroll, how can anyone possibly expect them to go after the real enemies of the state.

 

[pashtunkoum]

Possibly,

But alot of "shah supporters" are trying to spread fear and panic in the hope that Iran just gives up

Not understanding the cards as Trump may put it Iran still holds


The biggest problem at the moment is if U.S threats to get involved, Iran is forced into a preparation phase to take on whatever the U.S throws at it

This inevitably means the plan they initially had to bomb Israel repeatedly over the next few weeks and gradually tear down the Israeli state is more in limbo


In private communique to Iran, the U.S has stated that Israel cannot be hit to hard and if it is the U.S will step in, we can all decide if the threat is real or not

It's not just Shah supporters. If you want this regime to stay, a ceasefire is in the best interest.

If Iran goes out to attack it will be game over for the regime. It's not simple. Hence some people are wary of Iran overextending.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Urgent Iran
Iranian media: The guide Khamenei delegates his powers to the Supreme Council of the Revolutionary Guards.

this is not a official or good source, delete please

 

[hyperman]

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[Persian Gulf]

URL please.

guys please take that debate somewhere else

 

[hussain0216]

With all due respect, I don't understand the Supreme Leader's logic. Why did he initially restrict Iran from having nuclear weapons (and seemingly fail to grasp the deterrence they provide)? And if he still believes Iran shouldn't have them, then why is he fighting a war that will ultimately lead to Iran being controlled by rulers no different from those in Jordan or the UAE? Iran should either pursue nuclear weapons or surrender its uranium enrichment program. Why play a losing game?

I person don't think it is

The fatwa may be accurate, but I don't think it's real iranian state policy

Iran wants nuclear weapons, but being surrounded by the U.S and coalition meant it had to play defence

Remember at one point their was probably a million U.S and coalition soldiers surrounding Iran and the only reason they didn't attack Iran was because their invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan was such a bloody mess

 

[PakSword]

It will come indeed. Arabs are not Arabs of the past, Iran indulged itself in proxies and became a rogue state among Muslim countries. Only 2 states remains, Turkey and Pakistan. Turkey is too strong politically so it is Pakistan's turn after Iran.

I hope we nuke Hindu belt and Jews before going out.

“They [the Muslims] will then fight and a third of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah’s eye, would be killed, and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople.” [Muslim]

Turkey will fall too. Before Pakistan or after Pakistan, does not matter.

 

[SaadH]

Iran should tear up all the deals and treaty done with Russia and immediately switch to Pakistan and China, and cancel any deals for Su-35

These guys will do nothing as expected, not even sending one ammunition, even if Iran is nuked they would keep being passive and warm wording

Quran says to never take yahood or nasara as your friends. But Iran made this mistake not the first time in it's history.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[The SC]

Israeli media: 1,800 injured so far as a result of Iranian attacks

 

[hussain0216]

It's not just Shah supporters. If you want this regime to stay, a ceasefire is in the best interest.

If Iran goes out to attack it will be game over for the regime. It's not simple. Hence some people are wary of Iran overextending.

A ceasefire on good terms is a possibility

A ceasefire that makes Iran a cucked nation is pointless

 

[ToddE]

Charge Sheet against Khamenei "the killer of Iranian deterence"

- Chimp level Fatva against nuclear weapons

- Let Iranian national security insurance (nuclear program) be politicised internationally by getting Iran involved in Intra-semite Jew-Arab wars.

- Refused to punish fraud commanders doing PR stunts, instead elevated them for grip on internal politics.

- Let MODAFL kill IRIAF through budget cuts

- Wasted 200+ billion USD of Iranian nation on Hamas, IJ, Hezbollah, Assad, Iraqi Militias, Houthis, Afghans.

- Refused to take responsibility of nuclear talks by constantly forwarding dickless Reformists to frame them as scapegoats.

- 25 years of sanctions for what? Hamas who fought Iranians in Syria and Hezbollah that cant lob a shell at Israel when Iran is itself fighting the world for its survival ?

- Refused to understand that Russians will trick him, defence pact means nothing. Refused to understand that US will trick him, talks means nothing. Refused to understand the before this, Libya, Iraq, Syria all did these "talks" and "Pacts" and all ended up in coma.

- Still refusing to nuclearise Iran when Iranian citizens are being targeted.


I am ashamed he comes from my ethnicity. We were supposed to be the sword of Iran, the protector of our noble land for centuries. The weakest of our kind is running Iran.

 

[Sal12]

Pakistan, it's still not too late. Do what must be done, and enter the war to help your Iranian brothers defeat the Satanic Zionist invasion of their Islamic Republic. I will be sure to salute all Pakistani workers in my country as "The Greatest Muslims Ever" with full respect ever if you guys do it!

Pak can fight Israel like Iran is doing. Pak can't fight USA even if we replace the treacherous military and civilian leadership with the honest one.