Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Sinan]

The worst case for Iran here would be if Pahlavi somehow gets into power again. The nation will become worse than Somalia

Pahlavi couldn't find his way around the streets of Tehran. Afaik he doesn't have any supporters in Iran, just some exiled Iranians in the Western countries.

 

[Ali_Baba]

The worst case for Iran here would be if Pahlavi somehow gets into power again. The nation will become worse than Somalia

Would he be able to stay alive? The population will be quite against him. The goal here is not regime change, it is regime collapse. Basically blow Iran to bits and let it become like Somalia that it can never rise again, ever ..

 

[HAIDER]

Israel needs US and EU at this point, otherwise....................Again Trump is searching for a Union of nations, like the last invasion in Iraq. But this time ...............

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Easy their princess

The fatwa was unfortunate, if not accurate
A weapon like a nuclear bomb that kills humans, men, women, children so indiscriminately is possibly haram, so the fatwa itself seems logical

However Iran seems to have pushed gradually towards a nuclear weapons program REGARDLESS

What held it back wasn't the fatwa, it was the threat of U.S attack backed by a coalition

In 2003, the U.S was entrenched in iraq and it has already been in Afghanistan since 2001

Iran was surrounded, it takes time to develop a nuclear warhead and time to make a workable bomb/warhead that can be placed on a missile

The U.S was thrown out of Afghanistan only 4 years ago
And half left Iraq about 10

Iran did it's best, as a isolated and sanctioned state to create a weapons industry whilst trying to not be attacked by a coalition of states




It didn't help that the county was full of shah supporting murtad scum, who are attacking their own country to make it a lackey for the west

With all due respect, I don't understand the Supreme Leader's logic. Why did he initially restrict Iran from having nuclear weapons (and seemingly fail to grasp the deterrence they provide)? And if he still believes Iran shouldn't have them, then why is he fighting a war that will ultimately lead to Iran being controlled by rulers no different from those in Jordan or the UAE? Iran should either pursue nuclear weapons or surrender its uranium enrichment program. Why play a losing game?

 

[pashtunkoum]

Would he be able to stay alive? The population will be quite against him. The goal here is not regime change, it is regime collapse. Basically blow Iran to bits and let it become like Somalia that it can never rise again, ever ..

They may help prop him up kinda like Ghani government in Afghanistan for years.

 

[Malik Abdullah]

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said “the nations will attack you like a hungry crowd of people devouring a plate of food”.

The companions asked “is this because there will be a few of us?”

He said : “No, you will be numerous, but you will be weak like the foam of the sea, and Allah will remove the fear of you from the hearts of your enemies and throw “Wahn” into your hearts.

The companions asked, what is Wahn (enervation) messenger of Allah (pbuh).

He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death.

(Pakistan's turn will come too)

It will come indeed. Arabs are not Arabs of the past, money made them so soft that everyone knows they cannot stand a chance in war. Iran indulged itself in proxies and became a rogue state among Muslim countries. Only 2 state remains, Turkey and Pakistan. Turkey is too strong politically and a NATO member so it is Pakistan's turn after Iran.

I hope we nuke Hindu belt and Jews before going out.

 

[Sarhang]

One day in future most Iranians would recall that a West-dependent, India-threatened poor country like Pakistan was the most vocal supporter of Iran and its people in this crisis.

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Iran's good relation with Pakistan is mostly cultural not political. Thats why Pakistan can support Iran even with a terrible mullah regime.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

With all due respect, I don't understand the Supreme Leader's logic. Why did he initially restrict Iran from having nuclear weapons (and seemingly fail to grasp the deterrence they provide)? And if he still believes Iran shouldn't have them, then why is he fighting a war that will ultimately lead to Iran being controlled by rulers no different from those in Jordan or the UAE? Iran should either pursue nuclear weapons or surrender its uranium enrichment program. Why play a losing game?

Exactly my thinking

 

[SaadH]

I got an answer to my question from Sen Murphy......He said Trump doesn't not have the authority to get in this war.......so Israel can troll us all they want. They can only hope for the MOAB....and support. No US involvement, not unless Iran does something to make it easy for Trump to get in.

Trump doesn't need the approval of that assembly of bought out zionist slave clowns. He'll join the attack on Iran if his zionist masters so wills it.

 

[brazensword]

Resistance across the Middle East is gearing up for a bloody war.

GCC just choked on Trumps wet dick not too long ago.

 

[hussain0216]

He is from the East... ahem


Not sure if mods agree

Possibly,

But alot of "shah supporters" are trying to spread fear and panic in the hope that Iran just gives up

Not understanding the cards as Trump may put it Iran still holds


The biggest problem at the moment is if U.S threats to get involved, Iran is forced into a preparation phase to take on whatever the U.S throws at it

This inevitably means the plan they initially had to bomb Israel repeatedly over the next few weeks and gradually tear down the Israeli state is more in limbo


In private communique to Iran, the U.S has stated that Israel cannot be hit to hard and if it is the U.S will step in, we can all decide if the threat is real or not

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

US is officially in war now

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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