Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Hack-Hook said:
so at last you see what is the problem with interceptors and fighter inside mountain air bases
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Yes because the open air bases are doing so much better.

Your idea was to have 40+ air bases. We cannot even defend skies of Tehran or major cities, let alone those airbases if they existed.

Iran’s air defense network has collapsed rapidly without a single fighter jet downed.

Awful performance - emperor wears no clothes.
 
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What’s Iran’s Game plan here? Fire 5-10 missiles per day until Fordow also gets blown up?

I am trying to understand the strategy
 
Raj-Hindustani said:
I have a different perspective from many others here, as much of the discussion seems to reflect one-sided narratives.

I do criticise the U.S. and the West for their monopolies and geopolitical dirty games, which often come at the cost of human lives.

At the same time, I also criticise Iran for supporting non-state actors such as Hamas and Hezbollah, which contributes to regional instability.

A stable and peaceful Iran would benefit the entire region. Iran absolutely has the right to defend itself and pursue what’s best for its people—but that should come with a focus on internal progress and a better future and safety for its citizens.
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Only shows you have been completely (deliberately, most likely) ignorant of many facts such as creation of Hamas resistance and Hezbullah.
It also shows why research (unbiased) is so necessary and important before opening big mouth about certain matters. Simple as that.
 
Developereo said:
It's hard to predict how the Chinese government and people will behave if China becomes the undisputed, sole, global power for a few decades. People change; attitudes change.

The US also started out with lofty ambitions and stayed true to them for a long time. It was US President Johnson who was the force behind European colonial powers giving freedom to their colonies after WW2.

Over time the US foreign policy has been taken over by less altruistic goals. Will China do the same? Maybe it is a Machiavellian necessity to become like that in order to stay at the top.



Yes, the Iranian situation is complicated. They are strongly nationalistic but also infested with Israeli spies. They are proudly and fiercely Muslim, and they also have a super strong bond to their ancient heritage. This leads some to dream of reclaiming their ancient dominance and complicates the relationship with neighbors. It all goes south when other regional countries have their own dreams of reclaiming their own past glories. If only these countries could look at the United States and see that focusing on the future rather than the past may be a more fruitful enterprise.
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US foreign policy has been hegemonic and never altruistic from it's inception on, the Monroe doctrine of one of american founding fathers and the fifth president called for the whole western hempisphere, i.e. all of North and South American to be under US control.

You can follow the trajectory of US expansion, land theft, conquest, annexation, enslavement and colonization and support of other colonial powers throughout its history.
 
Brutal. said:
Do you think people of Pakistan will allow Iran to be attacked from their soil? Specially when its taking on Israel?

Noone will risk a massive revolt within country to please US.
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Agreed, I'm an unconditional supporter of our Army (as a matter of our geolocation, I unconditionally believe they are more important than any political entity or person).

... But given that, even someone like me would lose it, if Iran is attacked from Pakistan, while they are trying to control Israel. Because that would negate the whole idea that the Army is there to protect us from the dangers around us. I am sure our Army brass understand that, as well. In political matters they still have some support, but this is a zero compromise issue for every Pakistani.
 
SaadH said:
US foreign policy has been hegemonic and never altruistic from it's inception on, the Monroe doctrine of one of american founding fathers and the fifth president called for the whole western hempisphere, i.e. all of North and South American to be under US control.

You can follow the trajectory of US expansion, land theft, conquest, annexation, enslavement and colonization and support of other colonial powers throughout its history.
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It's a complicated history -- and off topic -- but the US has done some good things around the world also over the years.
 
Brutal. said:
Do you think people of Pakistan will allow Iran to be attacked from their soil? Specially when its taking on Israel?

Noone will risk a massive revolt within country to please US.
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No revolt is happening in Pakistan over Iran. We killed 70K of our own people on behalf of their amreeki masters, helped americans drone our own children by the thousands, massacred girls in a madressa in the middle of Islamabad and our beghairat cuck qom stayed home.
 
Watandar said:
Ariel Sharon ? That evil monster has been dead for many years. Maybe you mean some other politican.
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sorry, my mixup, Original one was from Sharon, latest one was form Yair of Opposition.
 
Tamerlane said:
For what it's worth, FM/AM is said to be a Shia. That may (or may not) make him a bit more acceptable to Iran and may allow him to mediate between the US and Iran.
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I thought that, as ISI director or something, he didn't like the Iranians, which was over the media a few years back; he blew a lid off while visiting Iran.
 
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