Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Arash]

Iran's performance is dissappointing to see. I have been following their defence industry for close to 2 decades(as many of you probably did as well) and to see it all crumble within a matter of days is extremely concerning to see. Goes to show that if you focus on Assymetric/Proxy warfare, don't neglect your capacity for conventional warfare as its still the deciding factor in any given war.

Hindsight is 20-20 but I feel like most of us were always telling that their lack of proper air force would have come bite them back eventually, probably should have swallowed their pride and flatout purchased either Chinese, Pakistani or Russian jets. Iran probably is not going to collapse anytime soon but a diminished Iran would probably allow those Zionists to complete their genocide on Palestinians.

Iran performances here are good, see Israel's situation it's obvious trump comes in more ro save them. However iran was sanctioned and couldn't buy foreign aircrafts. To me Iran's only failure is on protecting its borders against mossad. Otherwise our air defence downed so far every two day 1 f35 and probably many other UAVs, fighters, etc...

 

[Unknown987]

The video in Kermansha showed Hermess drone flying over the recorder , if there was aManpad , they could hunt it down ....

The manpads should be given to the troops ...

I’m really surprised that Iran didn’t have anti drones brigade trained in bringing drones down in all provinces.

 

[koolio]

 

[Protagoras]

This rat is all over my twitter feed for some reason.

 

[Assyrian209]

He really looks like his father, he is a split image of his father to the point where it is bit strange like as if he time travelled

 

[koolio]

 

[wangdefa]

The Iranians must protect the Supreme Leader during the war. There are signs that the United States or Israel are plotting to assassinate him. Without the Supreme Leader, the factions below will compete for power and cause internal turmoil. In time, Iran will lose its chain of command.

 

[koolio]

This rat is all over my twitter feed for some reason.

It's because they are trying to make him relevant for regime change in Iran which I very heavily doubt he will come back in power.

 

[Ali_Baba]

What do they want from Pakistan??? Open an eastern front to attack Iran?

If yes, I hope Pakistan refuses... But I doubt that. These Generals from Pakistan will bow down to Western powers at the drop of a hat. Iran could in retaliation conduct a ground invasion of Pakistan if it does allow an American invasion from its soil.

Something is afoot with respect to Pakistan... I just do not know what that is.

Maybe Trump wants bases in Afghanistan and he wants rights for military flights over Pakistan? Ie the next stage of the war against China …l once Iran is done and overthrown?

 

[OldTwilight]

I’m really surprised that Iran didn’t have anti drones brigade trained in bringing drones down in all provinces.

kermanshah is majority kurds and probably has one of highest number of mossad agents , bulk of our military are countering them ...

These provinces have critical issues :

The eastern and western Azerbaijans , Kermanshah , Kurdistan .

they create a corridor in these province sky and are attacking from there ... .

 

[Arash]

Yes Iran? How did this friendship turn out to be?

India distances itself from SCO anti-Israel statement | The Express Tribune

India acknowledged concerns over rising Middle East tensions but opted not to endorse the SCO’s collective position

tribune.com.pk

One of Iran's gravest mistake, pakistan is the brother and certainly NOT India.

 

[koolio]

Maybe Trump wants bases in Afghanistan and he wants rights for military flights over Pakistan? Ie the next stage of the war against China …l once Iran is done and overthrown?

No Chance why should Pakistan offer thier airspace, China has proven to be a great friend, Americans can never be trusted, they thought India will walk all over Pakistan, when Pakistan retaliated brutally to strike Indians very hard only then US called it a ceasefire, don't forget most of the Israeli drones were used against Pakistani airbases in the recent skirmish.

 

[OldTwilight]

The Iranians must protect the Supreme Leader during the war. There are signs that the United States or Israel are plotting to assassinate him. Without the Supreme Leader, the factions below will compete for power and cause internal turmoil. In time, Iran will lose its chain of command.

He already chosen who will replace him in time of war ... The chain of command won't get broken so easily , especially after the disastrous first day ...

 

[r3alist]

Many countries in Mideast have reservations about China more then China has reservations about them and even Russia has that reservations about China.

First of All the Chinese always follow the US sanctions they avoid doing business with you if you get sanctioned in order to avoid themselves sanctions.

The second issue is the Chinese will bolt out of there the second you get yourself into issues. They are very illusive.

A fine example is what happened in the Solomon Islands. We heard news of China trying to ethabalish military bases there plus the Solomon Islands president okayed the bases and the next thing that happened is 100s of US diplomats flying into the Solomon Islands to literally threaten the President of the Solomon Islands and where was China when all this happened no where to be found.

The next interview he had after these American diplomats threatened him was epic he started saying we don´t want anything that harms our brothers and neighbours etc etc and talking about pacifism and assuring everyone of no bases.

Another example China avoided to invest in Syria during Assad era aka an ally but since Sharaa came and the sanctions lifted China has arrived to Syria to invest and has already made some deals

I remember having this debate with Chinese before, my conclusion was that they take the path of risk versus reward, I'm not stating the blindingly obvious, but people do not see the risk for their side

They're not traditionally present in the middle East, the middle east is remote and far, and it would not be easy for them to operate

As well as this, they would be competing with the Russians and The Americans , taking these aspects into consideration, plus I'm sure many many more there is a lot of risk


Pakistan as the advantage of geographical proximity, so does Iran

 

[Aggregate]

Also, "keep firing small salvos every day for a few more weeks until Israel's air defences are significantly depleted"

Why fire small volleys everyday until AD are depleted. If depletion of AD is the goal, then send 100s of the old missiles within a day or two. Israel doesn't have many AD missiles, possibly not more than 500-600.

As per Israeli intelligence, Iran still has 1,500 to 2,000 active and available missiles that can reach Israel. and 6,000 - 8,000 more that are temporarily stuck inside the locations Israel attacked. So Iran has more than enough missiles. And that's Israeli intelligence, not Iranian.

Its the launchers that are an issue. Israel is said to have taken out 40% of Iranian launchers in just 2 days. If Iran loses launchers then all of those missile will be useless. so Iran is now conserving the launchers, taking them out in small numbers, hitting and puling them back. Having a few launchers makes it less risky that a larger number will be taken out.

Once Iran regains the airspace, then they can start launching in larger frequencies as you suggested..