Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

RescueRanger said:
Opps... The Fat man accidently blurted out the truth:
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The intention to destabilize Iran and remove the government was its stated goal from the beginning; after the hospital collateral damage in Israel, the President of Israel came out and stated the intention.
 
mangekyo said:
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I don't want hear any more tales of destruction. They shown us what real destruction looks like. We have the Gaza blueprint that they so generously provided. I don't understand what the zionist want. Why are they complaining? 😮 Hmm 🤔 They still have so many lovely buildings left standing. They despair too easily. Can they at least wait until the rest of those shinny skyscrapers are burning and turned to dust before they start wallowing in sorrow? The audacity of these people!
 
US might strike Iran's Fordow enrichment plant this weekend or next week.

Trump believes that they can take out Fordow and entire Iran's nuclear program and get away with it after fighting a short war with insignificant consequences for US.

Iran's response options to destruction of Fordow:

1) Target US military bases in the region - but US has already evacuated its bases or dispersed its personell so such strikes will be ineffective.

2) Attack oil tankers of US, UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, South Korea and Japan in the Persian Gulf - but in this case Iran will be seen as an unprovoked aggressor and such strikes will legitimize formation of Anti-Iran coalition than will include all the above mentioned countries.

3) Attack Saudi, Kuwaiti, Qatari and UAE oil infrastructure - but this will be seen as an act of unprovoked aggression by Iran against states that are not part of the conflict. Also Saudi Arabia and UAE do have Air Forces that can do damage to Iran.

4) Leave NPT and expel all IAEA inspectors - this will certainly happen and Iran's nuclear program will go underground and eventually end with Iran testing a nuclear bomb - leaving NPT will also be legitimate since Iran has become a victim of unprovoked aggression by US and Israel.

5) Mine the Strait of Hormuz - since Iran can't attack evacuated US bases, can't attack Persian Gulf oil infrastructure and can't attack oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, its best options are leaving NPT and peacefully mining the Strait of Hormuz within 24-48 hours after US strike.

Mining the Strait of Hormuz will be viewed as a legitime Iranian response to unprovoked US aggression with all the consequences of it being blamed on US and Israel.

After mining the Strait of Hormuz Iran should say:

1) Nobody will be allowed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz earlier than 1 year after its closure which will be blamed on Israel and Trump who will be held responsible for the oil crisis.

2) If US tries to reopen the Strait of Hormuz by force, Iran will only then respond by targeting first Kuwaiti, second Qatari, third UAE and fourth Saudi oil infrastructure - in this case Iranian attacks against Persian Gulf oil infrastructure will be seen not as an act of aggression but as a response to Trump's actions with Trump being held responsible for the destruction.

3) If US strikes economic targets in Iran, only then Iran will respond by targeting first Kuwaiti, second Qatari, third UAE and fourth Saudi oil infrastructure - in this case Iranian attacks against Persian Gulf oil infrastructure will be seen not as an act of aggression but as a response to Trump's actions with Trump being held responsible for the destruction.

Trump's options after the closure of the Strait of Hormuz:

1) Wait for 1 year when Iran will allow to reopen the Strait of Hormuz - but during this period US and EU economies will suffer irreparable damage - price they have to pay for their unprovoked aggression.

2) Try to reopen the Strait of Hormuz by force - but this will escalate the conflict and result in Iran attacking Persian Gulf oil infrastructure doing even more damage because rebuilding Gulf oil facilities can take 4-7 years and Trump will be blamed for the damage.

3) Attack Iran's economic infrastructure - but this will escalate the conflict and result in Iran attacking Persian Gulf oil infrastructure doing even more damage because rebuilding Gulf oil facilities can take 4-7 years and Trump will be blamed for the damage.

Also US won't be able to reopen the Strait of Hormuz by force, because Iran can target minesweepers and oil tankers with Shahed-238 drones, unmanned surface vehicles, unmanned underwater vehicles, anti-ship cruise missiles and anti-ship ballistic missiles and US airpower cant suppress that as it is evident by the recent example of US bombing of Houthis in Yemen.

But Iran should be careful. After striking Fordow, US can try to prevent mining of the Strait of Hormuz with fighters preventively bombing Iran's naval bases and drones taking out speedboats that can lay mines in the Strait of Hormuz.
 
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Many are now acknowledging that Israelis are stretched and running out of options. They can't do much without dragging Yankees into the conflict. Iranians are proving resilient.
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Sinan said:
I'm constantly listening Turkish experts on Iran-Israel (not the fake ones that talk on tv to get rating, the real experts)

They generally, say closing straits would be a very bad move for Iran as they they will turn great powers against them. They also say "Iran tried to close straits in Iraq-Iran war and that ended badly for them". (I don't know the details on that)

They also say that closing the strait done by laying mines on the straits as a reaction freight prices sky rocket, most of the ships don't dare to enter this region.

However, they say US is experienced on this, they (or their allies ) monitoring straits, any Iranian mine laying ship would be hit the moment they leave their ports before begining to lay mines.
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We have no choice, and US can try, I hope our hypersonic missles cuts their ships and regional bases in pieces
 
Pak-Warrior said:
Yep Israelis are better pampered. Their govt can support them well because the immoral, genocide supporters, vicious europian colonial powers and United States gives everything to Israel and on other hand has put up severe sanctions on Iran.

That's duplicity of your govts, knowing which one of the state is capable of committing genocide, still supporting it and knowing they have nukes too. Still providing all sort of help, in weapon supplies, air refueling, interceptions, logistics, intelligence. All of your govts are with child killers Versus Iran alone.
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If someone put a gun to my head and said I had to pick either Tehran or Tel Aviv to hunker down and survive this war. I'd pick Tel Aviv in a heart beat so would you. Israel evil and Iran good wouldn't be a factor in that decision .
 
dbc said:
If someone put a gun to my head and said I had to pick either Tehran or Tel Aviv to hunker down and survive this war. I'd pick Tel Aviv in a heart beat so would you. Israel evil and Iran good wouldn't be a factor in that decision .
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If you knew the future of zios you would not have said.
 
Be dazzled said:
Many are now acknowledging that Israelis are stretched and running out of options. They can't do much without dragging Yankees into the conflict. Iranians are proving resilient.
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Trump loves to make his allies realize they are nothing without him. Trump is like a typical boss.
 
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