Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kastor ville]

Therein lays the problem. I am a red blooded redneck American who was previously a middle manager. Retired now so no C-suite aspirations for me. Besides, that level doesn't like to hear the blunt truth. Manager of mine (was an Indian) once told me he didn't care; just make sure it looks good on PowerPoint.

I preferred my job over the stuffiness of the C-suite and self-glorification while acting like a stick was up my backside. Things like this is what got me recognition:

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Right off the company website. I even took the picture. State of the art distribution center. About $75M including the automated package sorting systems.

On time. And under budget.

Welcome to the group, bro, I was a middle manager at an airline, I helped save millions of dollars, not just once, but closer to half dozen times, I got a 150.00 gift certificate for my troubles. My bosses stole most of ideas and passed it off as their own....but, it I was okay, I didn't give 2 shits frankly, I was flipping and rehabing houses, that mid level job allowed me to work from home, and those flips in the last 10 yrs helped me make the equivalent of my annual salary every 6 months or so. Now, I own 7 houses free and clear. I retired at 55
Those bosses, all of them are still working....

 

[arjunk]

You know, China could literally go in, declare a no-fly-zone over Iran and Iraq, set it's aircraft carrier between Iran and Diego Garcia, and the war would be over instantly.

Israel and the US won't risk a war with China, and wouldn't even consider shooting down Chinese planes...

...but that may just be my wishful thinking.

Chinese are not Americans, the Chinese have no ambition to become a global empire/world police.

 

[Ficus]

Australia just closed the embassy, flight and recalled all the staff back from Tehran.

Something big is happening.

 

[Hayabusa]

Currently listening to one of the syndicated talk shows that is delayed in my area. Current guest is a self-anointed expert. 2 MOPs is all that's required to take care of Fordow.

<AZ wonders why stupid people are given air time>

I am pretty sure 2 MOPs would be enough to damage. Knowing USA they will drop 5 to ensure complete destruction.

I hope Iranians have already moved out their uranium to somewhere safer.

 

[arjunk]

Chinese are not Americans, the Chinese have no ambition to become a global empire/world police.

China may intervene to protect Pakistan, but remember that the China-Pakistan relationship itself is exceptionally close and cannot be used to predict China's actions in the rest of the world.

 

[kastor ville]

Iran has undeniably established itself as a missile power in the region, excelling in both ballistic and hypersonic technologies- despite heavy sanctions and immense challenges.

Some of us have criticized Iran for lacking a capable air force and modern air defense systems. But perhaps the Iranian military understood that competing in those areas was unrealistic, given Israel's overwhelming superiority. Instead, they pursued a strategy centered on missile development-a path that requires less maintenance and allows for mass production. That strategy now appears to be yielding results. As it was once said "quantity is also a form of quality".

Hopefully, Pakistan is observing this closely and taking steps to diversify its own capabilities, particularly by building up a stockpile of hypersonic missiles.

Nothing short of amazing.....40 yrs of American and European boots on their neck and here they are toe to toe with the best weapons and best tech money can buy.....in fact so good, the Israelis need to call their daddy to come and help. This is in my book is worthy of serious praise. It makes me proud.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[arjunk]

India did not ask for the ceasefire.

It was Pakistani government who asked for the ceasefire because they figured they had done enough to fool the Pakistani public but not enough to really anger India.

It was actually GCC who first applied pressure for ceasefire, then indian duffers sent Israeli drones to attack our cities leaving us no choice but to retaliate in addition to downing 5 jets + 1 UAV.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

@Mobius

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[The SC]

A number of stealth strategic bombers B-2 Spirit
It is currently on its way to the Diego Garcia base in the Indian Ocean
Accompanied by its own special tankers

 

[Aggregate]

India did not ask for the ceasefire.

It was Pakistani government who asked for the ceasefire because they figured they had done enough to fool the Pakistani public but not enough to really anger India.

Well, then you are probably the only one who believes in that own random unknown theory of yours. Nobody else in the world either claimed this or talked of this. Congrats for thinking the box ? That's pretty much all.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[StrategicBear]

If Iran can build the new launchers in deeply underground facilities buried beneath some mountains, what will be the Production Rate of new launchers? 10 per month? 5 per month?

Iran has undeniably established itself as a missile power in the region, excelling in both ballistic and hypersonic technologies- despite heavy sanctions and immense challenges.

Some of us have criticized Iran for lacking a capable air force and modern air defense systems. But perhaps the Iranian military understood that competing in those areas was unrealistic, given Israel's overwhelming superiority. Instead, they pursued a strategy centered on missile development-a path that requires less maintenance and allows for mass production. That strategy now appears to be yielding results. As it was once said "quantity is also a form of quality".

Hopefully, Pakistan is observing this closely and taking steps to diversify its own capabilities, particularly by building up a stockpile of hypersonic missiles.

But launchers can be destroyed by enemy planes. Unless if there is a way to "scoot and shoot"" with more solid fuelled missiles(which Iran doesn't have for all) the risk is there for launchers to be destroyed and thus affecting launch rates. So both Air Force and BMs are necessary IMHO.