Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hayabusa]

Some analysis in the Guardian regarding the uncertainty/difficulty of utilizing the GBU-57, mentions one potential option using tactical nuclear weapons.

Separately, saw a comment attributed to Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir (no credible primary source, that I can share at least):

“There will be other difficult days ahead, but always remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki.”

So, given that the Israelis have barely gotten the US and EU to even yawn at the genocide they’re perpetrating in Gaza, and countless other major violations of international laws, what would stop them from using tactical nuclear weapons on Fordow and other sites?

Not surprised at the use of tactical nuke.

But if they used them, I hope the whole world rally against it calling for their heads.

Indians, in desperation boasts about the 'civilizational ties' with Iran. WTH?! The ties exist because of the Muslims of the Indo Pak subcontinent and the Zoroastrian-Hindu ties were so old, much smaller in comparison.
Iranians, on the other hand, really misunderstood Pakistan. Yes, Pakistan was in the American camp, Yes, Pakistan was in the Arab camp. But only to some extent and never to the detriment of Iran itself. Pakistanis have been extracting whatever they can from the Americans and the Arabs to fortify Pakistan against India, which is the single most important concern for Pakistan for the last eight decades. We all saw what happened in May 2025: India can't be ignored by Pakistan.

Yes.

I hope Iran-Pakistan ties improve significantly after this. We can learn a lot from the missiles as well they have been very effective as far as I can see from OSINT.

 

[Protagoras]

Not sure if this is been posted here before



Shaping public opinion

 

[SaadH]

Just so we're clear here:

If you were posed with the situation, and the world had already been at war for 6 years, would you prefer to end it quickly if given the opportunity or plan for who knows how much more bloodshed on the back half of the 1940s.

US planners estimated US casualties alone would have been 1M US dead and 10M for the Japanese had Operation Downfall proceeded in the last quarter of 1945.

Sometimes, you got to make the tough choices and live with it.

Japan had virtually surrendered nukes were detonated to scare off the Soviets

 

[Maarkhoor]

Not surprised at the use of tactical nuke.

But if they used them, I hope the whole world rally against it calling for their heads.


Yes.

I hope Iran-Pakistan ties improve significantly after this. We can learn a lot from the missiles as well they have been very effective as far as I can see from OSINT.

As per reports after war visa for Indians would be restricted plus they already thrown out India from Chabahar and would be under Chinese control.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

It's co-developed by India and Israel so it's normal that Israel has Barak 8 in active service.

 

[Meengla]

America hopefully stay out of Netanyahus suicidal legacy and stay away from wars, If Israel is contained ME can finally have lasting peace and America needs to understand that, its not Iran or Khizbullah or Khamas or Palestinians its the Israeli's that needs to be leashed for a peaceful Middle east.

Trita Parsi, who I greatly respect, said yesterday that Israel is 'emerging as a hegemon' in the Middle East. Careful words admitting the fall of Gaza, Hezbollah, and Syria have given Israel not only the extra land but removed decades old threats right next to Israel.
And if Iran decides to really rollback its pro Palestinian reach deep near Israel, then, yes, there can be a lasting peace in the Middle East where Iran joins its neighbors to its east and Eurasia and Israel becomes the hegemon of the Middle East. And America then could finally concentrate on China without exhausting its resources protecting Israel.
Not too bad a scenario for Pakistan but too bad for Arabs and the Palestinians though. It is not my wish; but it is what I see one way the Middle East sees a semblance of Peace.

 

[bengalcdn]

Wow I never expected Iran to go toe to toe with Israel. The way Iran is violating Israel daily and causing damage is will give these Israelis 10 times to think before they make war mongering plans. Now every remaining power in the ME, such as Egypt, Algeria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc should build up their MRBM and cruise missile inventory so they can pummel Israel. Missiles are cheap and can be easily produced indigenously. At the same time also invest in new 5th gen manned and unmanned aircraft to keep a balance / deterrence against Israel.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Not sure if this is been posted here before



Shaping public opinion

Not possible Trump will not take this expensive chance it will sink Uncle Sam's ship more rapidly.....Simply USA can't afford another war of such scale especially Russia and China opposing it.

China already mentioned it will start helping Iran if USA got involved, China is really flexing its muscles.

 

[Khan090]

Sahi pehchana....But only software part....They fcdk up boing since they develop software for them and now Israel.
Kindly correct the spelling in your post.

My bad!
Next time "Cow-developed" will be the standard term.
Indians would surely like it more.

 

[Protagoras]

Seriously this guy

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Japan had virtually surrendered nukes were detonated to scare off the Soviets

Japan was not yet ready to surrender.

As for the Soviets, maybe. The Manhattan Project was already infiltrated by moles. Stalin had a good idea what we were up to.

The Soviets were however impressed with Dresden. That raid was specifically for them.

 

[mangekyo]

Iran hit a school in Tel Aviv in response to Israel's bombing of the Imam Hussein University in Tehran

There are no schools in Israel, only indoctrination camps

 

[brazensword]

Grossi is a mossad agent. Iran should assassinate his ass and never let IAEA near their facilities again.

 

[Haz]

I have lived in the west and been around the west. I would remove the GCC, Iraq, Iran and the Central Asians.

The really mean ones are without a doubt the following: Turks, Sham (Palis and Syrians) Pakistanis, Somalis, Moroccans, Afghans, Algerians and Albanians

These 9 run all the criminal underworld in like 25 countries in the west.

What are you talking about? Middle easterners run the underworld in the west? Not the Mexican and South American cartels? Not the Italian mobs or Biker gangs? LOL
They dwarf all other syndicate groups, the only one that might come close are maybe the Albanians in Europe.

 

[mangekyo]

Japan was not yet ready to surrender.

As for the Soviets, maybe. The Manhattan Project was already infiltrated by moles. Stalin had a good idea what we were up to.

The Soviets were however impressed with Dresden. That raid was specifically for them.

"The Japanese were ready for peace, and THEY ALREADY APPROACHED THE RUSSIANS and, I think, the Swiss. And that suggestion of a warning was a face-saving proposition for them, and one that they could have readily accepted."

Ralph Bard, Under Sec. of the Navy, Memorandum on the Use of S-1 Bomb, June 28, 1945



"...we didn't need to do it, and we knew we didn't need to do it, and they knew that we knew we didn't need to do it, we used them as an experiment for two atomic bombs."

(Brigadier General Carter Clarke, the intelligence officer in charge of preparing intercepted Japanese cables for Truman)