Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

FuturePAF said:
But China does not want to get involved. China may not want to sell major arms. Iran is going to need to rebuild its capabilities indigenously, if its regime gets the time to rebuild.
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Yeah, it seems China and Iran had some relationship difficulties recently and I don't know who's to blame.

China will be wary of selling advanced tech to Iran given the spy infestation in Iran and Iran's close ties to India. On the other hand, the Arab countries are probably just as infested with Israeli/Western spies and are also friendly with India, but China is selling/offering advanced weapons to them so not sure what to make of it.
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
All other countries remain silent because they don't have power to confront the US.

And China needs to keep expanding its economic across the globe, and it needs to step up to show some warranty to its economic partners.

Nowadays, the economic ties and national security is bundled up together.

The US is doing at any cost to prevent other nations to do business with China, and other countries will not dare to continue its business ties with China if China cannot protect them from the US aggression.

Too many Chinese are still thinking the pre-2015 when China should keep low-profile and focus on its economic development foremost.

We currently live in a different era, and China is already listed in the US radar as the first priority.

If you want to avoid the war, then the war will still come after you.

If you are ready to fight a war, then you might have a high chance to avoid a war.
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The excuse for China to go to war must not be to openly stand up and fully support Iran's possession of nuclear weapons. Your actions will not receive support from any country in the world. Don't confuse the root cause, you will become a demon in the hearts of other governments around the world! No one knows what you do privately. Don't confuse concepts with passion. No country in the world, regardless of poverty or wealth, would want the Earth to have a nuclear weapon state again. However, the vast majority of countries will not prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapon state. If Iran crosses this threshold, they will truly stand up, and no one can replace them.
 
Where's the immediate Iranian reaction? Don't states usually have a secret protocol that comes into force?
 
RescueRanger said:
Yeah that's great, but I want to see some visual confirmation of the strikes.
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Means - they will going to accept peace talk further.

It's a first step of peace - denying any major loss.
Developereo said:
Three important lessons in the last two months:
  1. US word cannot be trusted and has no regard for diplomatic norms. Negotiations are just a distraction tactic while they plan attacks.
  2. Russian word cannot be trusted. Iran gave 8000 drones to Russia but Russia did not give SU-35 to Iran or help in any way last week. Russia is also controlled by Zionists and a large percent of Israelis are Russian origin.
  3. China lives up to its commitments and supports you beyond expectations. Chinese tech is also a proven match against Western tech.

Iran will need to assess its foreign relation options. China will not trust Iran as long as they have close ties to India.
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Iran israel war - test was for china not Russia.

It was well known that they can't jump into another war when already engaged in Ukraine war.

Chinese are importing low cost oil and gas from iran - they are kind of alliance against the west for the years.

Now if regime gets changed and now become pro- west, it's a lost case for china.

So - one thing is clear - don't trust on anyone expect yourself nowadays
 
ety said:
Just hope the Americans are not going to listen to the foolish British historian Ferguson that says who rules Taiwan will rule the world. He wants the Americans to make the stance as if the survival of American Empire depends on the status of Taiwan, lol. The British wants America to fight China to death over Taiwan. He dreams the world is still in the late 19th and early 20th century when his Britain dictated the world esp to China.
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Right now, Taiwan only matters for China's sovereignty, but the TSMC is no longer important to China.

Since China has already successfully cracked the DUV sanction, the EUV will be done very soon. It is already over for the US chip sanction.

However, the TSMC is still crucial for the US chip production, and the US cannot afford to lose the control on either ASML or TSMC.

If Taiwan is lost, China will not only strength its territorial sovereignty and expanding its control over the western Pacific ocean, but also deliver the death sentence to the US technological hegemony.

That Brit is trying to convince the US that don't give up its hegemony battle with China.

And we should switch our topic back to Iran versus Israel.
 
RescueRanger said:
You will get an IAEA report - because these are monitored nuclear sites and thus far Iran is still party to the NPT.
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I don't think we will. Iran is accusing the IAEA of cooperating with Israel. I think inspection are finished from here on out.
 
Blueishere said:
The fact that Iran is pushing this, signals that their response will be limited, they want a deal.
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Of course they want a deal, they've been asking for a deal for a while, but the condition has always been that Israel must stop bombing Iran.
 
No radiation means the material is out and safe even if the facilities are destroyed........ We will see iranian response i believe......
 
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