Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[darkcloud]

That assumes the political will is there for a dash. From what I see there is no indication Iran has developed that backbone. Iran is still desperate for some ceasefire with no preconditions.

Problem is U.S./Israel ain’t offering a ceasefire with no preconditions.

Regime change is next to impossible in iran even if they able to remove khameeni usa will be not able to install their own men

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

MAGA knows this isn't in the U.S interest and very likely will push Iran towards nuclear weapons not away

They know the Zionists and their shills are in control of the U.S and they are waking up,

As strange as it sounds the MAGA base can be ally to the world


The Zionists and neo cons control America and they push it into constant war for their own plots and plans not for the American people

white europeans can NEVER EVER be an ally of ANY Brown/Olive-skinned Muslim peoples or nation.

 

[Fasbre2]

The "nomination" was an attempt to remind Trump of his "so called peace" claims to try and defuse the situation. Obviously, to failure.

It could be it helped craft trumps response to purely destroying IL nw program, which is what they may have agreed upon as alluded by Trump.
Hence no further talk of regime change..

Best thing for Iran is attack against Dimona and if successful take that as retaliation for fordow and look for an off ramp…

 

[RescueRanger]

pm me, lets talk there.

Please open a complaint against me in GHQ - So admin can discuss with you in private and resolve it.

 

[vmro]

Yes ignore the Russians completely, they do nothing and it's just words.

What words??? That Israel is Russian-speaking state???

Very supportive words for Iran from strategic partners, no questions about it...

 

[Aggregate]

there is no immediate fight or conflict with Israel bot only do we have Anti State Elements, eyond the rants of our political parties when they are in opposition. our main issue is with India and its proxies.

the extremists in our main opposition party will join TTP and BLA to target and provide intelligence on Pakistani strategic locations and people to help with the initial attacks. there is no denying that PTI unfortunately has a section within its ranks that is beyond reasoning and discussion. I am talking abut the group that wishes Pakistan getting nuked because their saint is in Jail and considers Imran Khan more famous and likable than prophets.

so I wont be fool in believing that this extremist group within PTI wont give helping hands to those that will attack Pakistan. PPP had al Zufiqar and MQM had its assassination groups PTI mockery and celebration on social media is very clear, they are celebrating American bombing because in their view it has humiliated Pakistan and their arch rival Asim Munir and they love it.

100% agreed. The people sabotaging Iran did not think of themselves as "traitors" either. They were justifying it all by saying that they wanna get rid of the "regime" they did not like. Its the exact same thinking. This is the kind of thinking that Israel and US first sow into a country, then they tap into it, when the time comes. We have seen it in Libya, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, West Bank and now in Iran.

This is what we need to learn from Iran. We should have gone the way of China & Russia and never let Social Media ruin our country, they seemed to be the prudent ones. Our problem is now far more worse because unlike Iran we had open social media. Now we only have to see if Pakistan gets a control over it all before they pounce onto Pakistan.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[HRK]

If possible Iran should seek nuclear Umbrella of Russia, under joint defense pact (I know now it seems very difficult but still not impossible)

Iran may handel Israel unilaterally but once joint defense pact is signed USA would not directly enter into the war with Iran would create indirect opportunities via Israel and other actors which Iran as an state could handel.

This attack of USA has set a precedence of attack on nuclear facilities which must be worrisome for all the states have civilian or military nuclear programs.

Now Israel must also be worried about its nuclear facilities as if Iran attacks any of nuclear facilities in Israel they could use US attack as justification of their retaliatry action.

 

[Immortals]

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At least 5 penetration points on Fordow - NY times says over 10 bombs were used. But even assuming at least 5-7 MOAB that’s some serious firepower.

 

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[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes ignore the Russians completely, they do nothing and it's just words. With an ally like them you don't need enemies.

Many non-Pakistani Muslims fail to realise the fact that russia is FIRMLY pro-israel and pro-zionists. Most prominent israelis/zionists ARE Russian converts to judaism. The soviet union was created and run by russian jews/zionists.

 

[hussain0216]

white europeans can NEVER EVER be an ally of ANY Brown/Olive-skinned Muslim peoples or nation.

Sure, but Iran needs to play smart

The Zionists currently wants Iran firing on U.S targets

And what will it achieve???? Some empty U.S bases hit
Hell what happens if they hit a F35 or kill u.s soldiers???
That just means more action from the U.S


Obviously if the U.S sits out side Iran firing missiles then Iran has to hit u.s naval assets

But for the moment, the target needs to be Israel and it needs to a brutal overwhelming response to Israeli infrastructure


Iran needs to remove itself from all nuclear talks and guarantee a nuclear weapon

 

[Aziqbal]

I think the attack was symbolic

I think Iran should not respond yet

keep hitting Israel

US has aid that's it for now

 

[hussain0216]

No it not like that....it is official now ....Govt of Pakistan has nominated him.

Now in next two or three month India again carry out another strike and we receive damages ....and Trump congratulates Modi for his actions.....where would be we standing with this nomination?

The nomination means nothing,, why the hell would he get it

It cost us nothing, getting obsessed about the wrong thing is stupid

 

[BigMela2onin]

North Korea could and they have a land route to Iran

They would get taken out passing through central Asia.