Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ChineseTiger1986]

So you are overseas Chinese. Iran's affairs do not involve China's national security. China will not send troops to rescue Iran. The United States will never not attack Iran because of concerns about China. The greater the hope, the greater the disappointment. Don't give anyone false hope.

I know the Chinese government way of thinking, they will not indirectly involve nor they will let Iran to capitulate.

Just read my post from the previous page, I didn't say that China is going to rescue Iran.

And stop going after me personally because I dislike your stupid/spineless Tuanpai faction, and I only support President Xi's reformist faction, and not your sellout reformists who only know how to hiking up the housing price and subsequently to make people's living unaffordable.

You just got mad because I attacked the pro-west reformists in Iran who are your political kins.

 

[wangdefa]

China has poured resources into developing next-gen hypersonics, stealth aircraft, and AI-powered platforms, but let’s face it: war isn’t some tech demo or theory exercise. It demands grit, sacrifice, and unflinching resolve.

In my analysis, no matter how advanced its arsenal becomes, China is unlikely to directly engage in a full-scale war. Their doctrine seems centered on showcasing strength rather than testing it in live combat. If any of their systems are ever truly battle tested, it’ll likely be through Pakistan, not by putting their own boots on the ground.

And now more than ever, modern war is all about airpower, drones, AI, and advanced electronic warfare. It’s no longer just about tanks and trenches, future conflicts will be fought by drones and robots, in a battlespace where data dominates and human presence is minimized.

China may dominate the tech race on paper, but whether it has the resolve to commit that power when stakes are real, that’s still up for debate.

After all, the iteration of weapons brought about by technology has been divorced from everyone's understanding. As we have seen, there will be no direct conflict between the world's major powers today. After all, no one wants to see a direct face-to-face war between two great powers. Weapons are verified on the battlefield by the purchasing countries of their respective equipment. This is also the reason why I infer that China and the United States will not meet directly on the battlefield. Even NATO has avoided an all-out war with Russia. Because no one can control this is a local war, not the destruction of the world. Therefore, most of the contests between big powers are in the support camp under the table.

 

[Davey Crockett]

What's up with this stupid "Thank you for your attention to this matter" statements that Trump keeps on making at the end of his tweets. What an idiot.

The clown thinks he's a Mafia don and it will impress his MAGA base.

He actually lost many of his supporters.

Watch for articles of impeachment to move through Congress, and who supports it.

 

[koolio]

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[Musings]

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Bastard bombs the shit out of them and then asks for peace in the same sentence? What a complete twat

 

[Aggregate]

A possible scenario: Iran will not attack US bases in the Middle East, instead it will keep pounding Israel hard unless US goes after military targets in Iran.

That's precisely what Iran needs to do. US does not care about the lives of US soldiers or their own assets. Hitting them would not make any difference to the US. Its deaths of Israelis that hurts the US,. Also, focusing firepower on US will mean that Israel will start getting less love form Iranian missiles. Which will be very unfortunate.

 

[MH.Yang]

China has provided the supervision to Iran how to rely on rocket missile force if you lack the power to build up a powerful air force/navy.

Iran's underground missile tunnel was also a reference to China's underground great wall that has effectively shielded its missile power that the enemy cannot neutralize it.

Otherwise, Iran cannot deal a such amount of damage to Israel during this war.

Iran's steel production is 30 million tons per year, the 10th largest steel producer in the world, and cement production is 100 million tons per year, the top 10 in the world. Automobile production has a capacity of 1.5 million units per year and even has 79% mobile internet coverage. Iran is also the only country in the Middle East with a complete industrial system, covering petrochemicals, military industry, automotive, machinery, electronics, pharmaceuticals and other fields, especially in the field of heavy industry and military industry is outstanding.

We never questioned Iran's ability to defeat Israel and the United States, we questioned Iran's determination. It is a country full of spies and capitulationists.

As long as Iran can show the courage to fight to the end, there will soon be a large number of countries willing to aid it. Trump will also be too intimidated to enter the fray. The problem is that what Iran lacks most is courage.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Cant believe americans. Lets make that clear they always do opposite tow hat they say.

Please differentiate between Americans and the Zionists who have hijacked our government.

It will be a mistake to demonize average Americans who are mostly not in favor of Trump getting us into another war.

The mood in America today is far different than it was when the first Gulf War was announced.

 

[MootPoint]

I cannot express in words how much i am enraged and embarrassed what Pakistan has done. Granted that beggars cannot be choosers but how in the hell someone decided to even put a word out that pakistan will back Nobel for donny the zio glazer when IWT remains suspended and now we knew what US was upto vis a vis Iran.

Trump is a pretty insecure guy and stroking his ego was a ploy to de-escalate and buy some time for the Iranians (and also to force Modi to contradict Trump by denying the US played a role in the India-Pak ceasefire). But it was always going to be a long shot. Obviously nobody believes this man-child actually deserves a Nobel but I don't think it's fair to criticize Pak for trying a valid tactic that might have paid off.

After the meeting with Munir, Trump said Pakistan is not happy with what's going on and understands Iran better than most. Furthermore, Trump's own MAGA base was strongly voicing its opposition to US involvement. Then there was also a statement by the White House that Trump was giving 2 weeks for a diplomatic solution. For a while it seemed the anti war pressure was mounting.

Even Professor John Mearsheimer who is a respected authority said in an interview that Trump seemed to have toned down his rhetoric in the last 48 hours and would be foolish to go to war. However he also added the Israeli lobby is extremely aggressive and will be putting massive pressure. And that is what happened in the end.

AIPAC has invested billions of dollars over decades leading up to this moment, and they must have pulled out all the stops. Maybe the speculation about the Epstein files is also true. Professor Mearsheimer said that there can never be an honest and logical debate on Israel in Congress, because the outcome of that would almost certainly be against Israeli interests. That's why they pre-empt the normal decision making process through blackmail and pressure tactics.

 

[Master Chief]

My point was that boycotting Israel or India will indiscriminately hurt Muslims residing in those countries. It would amount to capital punishment which is gross injustice.

Won't the same action indiscriminately hurt everyone, regardless of religious affiliation?

Your point is unclear. Are you complaining over muslims being targeted or of the indiscriminate nature of economic warfare?

There are non-muslims in Pakistan, whose responsibility for protection lies with Pakistan. There are muslims in India who are hostile to the Pakistani state.

The conflict is between nation states, not religious groups or sects.

 

[Cryptonian]

Many Americans are apologising in the replies

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[TallGuy]

As long as Iran can show the courage to fight to the end, there will soon be a large number of countries willing to aid it. Trump will also be too intimidated to enter the fray. The problem is that what Iran lacks most is courage.

My Dear friend, What does the courage look like? in last 10 days, Irani Nation and it armed forces are showing courage! determination!

Honestly after the surprise attack and the fifth coloum activation, i do not remmeber any country or armed forces would have survived. yet they did stood up and still fighting.

Many countries will not!

I am a Pakistani but i admire the courage they are showing against the odds! actually make me proud. out 50+ islamic countries only one that has the balls to fight the Entity and US.

Opinion given at higher ground - you are Chinese! our brother Strong and powerful.

I see Only Courage and determination By Iranis. Period!

 

[Psyko70]

Please differentiate between Americans and the Zionists who have hijacked our government.

It will be a mistake to demonize average Americans who are mostly not in favor of Trump getting us into another war.

The mood in America today is far different than it was when the first Gulf War was announced.

Dude your country is equally accomplice. Iraq, afghanistan not everywhere zionist was blacmailing you. Are your all govts hijacked ?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Iran's steel production is 30 million tons per year, the 10th largest steel producer in the world, and cement production is 100 million tons per year, the top 10 in the world. Automobile production has a capacity of 1.5 million units per year and even has 79% mobile internet coverage. Iran is also the only country in the Middle East with a complete industrial system, covering petrochemicals, military industry, automotive, machinery, electronics, pharmaceuticals and other fields, especially in the field of heavy industry and military industry is outstanding.

We never questioned Iran's ability to defeat Israel and the United States, we questioned Iran's determination. It is a country full of spies and capitulationists.

As long as Iran can show the courage to fight to the end, there will soon be a large number of countries willing to aid it. Trump will also be too intimidated to enter the fray. The problem is that what Iran lacks most is courage.

We will see, at least they try and is not giving up now.

Shouldn't go too harsh with them, especially we are in a non-Chinese forum.

 

[Master Chief]

IRGCAF seems extra angry over Israel.

Lol Trump did the strikes, Israel did not. These guys seem confused.

You know as well as I do that Israel is a proxy state/colonial outpost of USA. Iran is correct to focus on Israel.