Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

No need for extra bravado

I fully agree. This is why I think it would be a critical error. Time to take an off ramp.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

It seems you don't have any idea. Can you explain how Api work

your question is so vague that there is no chance of knowing what do you mean by" Api" let alone explaining to you how Api works.

did you mean A2/AD or SIGINT/ELINT ?if so then its out of scope. please be more clear in your posts. although it may not be needed as it maybe out of scope and I dont have to prove anything.

 

[Master Chief]

If this has indeed occurred, would it mean that both countries have to be "locked" in a state of war / conflict endlessly? How many times Egypt and Jordan have gone to war against Israel, yet they’re now living side by side since signing of the peace treaties in 1977 and 1994 respectively.

I agree. Israel should, in the interests of peace, offer something to Iran and its allies (I.e. the Palestinians and others).

If Israel is genuinely interested in some form of truth and reconciliation regarding its malevolent designs in the middle east since the early 20th Century, then I suspect Arabs, Iranians and others would at least hear what they have to say. Beyond that, it is up to the belligerent parties to determine an outcome that is fairest for them.

It could be very simple, but the hasbara makes it impossible.

At the moment, all you are observing over generations is constant Kevin Pietersen-esque switch-hitting by Mossad. Today they "support" arabs, tomorrow Iranians, today seculars, tomorrow ISIS, today the druze, tomorrow the kurds.

Do you see how Mossad works now? Eventually, Mossad's "ally-du-jours" turns against Mossad because it realises Israel is using it as a dalitised pawn. Then Mossad activates another asset against its former asset.

There is much that Israel and Israel's victims likewise need to take stock of and reflect on in order for any sort of solution to emerge from this. Some lifelong national habits will need to change in a number of countries. And the underlying truth of it all is that Israel needs to take the first step (and don't think that Israel herself does not know this!).

If it does not, the war will certainly be perpetual and generational, only with different opponents for Israel as old assets expire and new ones become deployed.

 

[Watandar]

Can US invade with ground troops? How well coordinated and brave the Iranian army is??

There is no US ground invasion of Iran coming. That is utterly ridiculous assumption. What can happen is the USAF joins the Israeli Air Force in turning large parts of Iran into Gaza. Thats the threat.

 

[Mero]

For those wondering what I am talking about gold hurting the US dollar:

 

[sharreman10]

Can US invade with ground troops? How well coordinated and brave the Iranian army is??

If it escalates enough, the US will see no other option but to invade with ground troops.

 

[Shags101]

I fully agree. This is why I think it would be a critical error. Time to take an off ramp.

Only off ramp is surrendering Israel said it will bomb regardless of a ceasefire Iranian leadership will now be constantly killed off so what can they offer the Iranians at this point that will make the Iranians say ok that’s amazing will take it

 

[tsunset]

I am not saying that israel will be successful in their quest. But targeting prison, Basij HQ.etc shows what they are trying to do.

And so far it doesn't work at all.

They thought that targeting a prison will make a call of duty Black Ops 1 Vorkuta scenario?

They are really living in another world, pretty much the same world as the Iranian degenerate diaspora from LA.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Japanese and South Koreans going to join US in bombing IR?!

because every body else has already joined them, why leave them behind?!!

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Man, I just can't believe their military was still using American GPS few days ago ? What were they thinking ?

The #IRGC is run by the old guard, using the old ways of doing things. They've slowly picked it up their shortcomings, but the good thing is they're fixing it. They shut down the Internet, and they've now blocked the GPS.

 

[RescueRanger]

South Koreans going to join US in bombing IR?!

South Koreans have said "leave us out of it"...

 

[sharreman10]

There is no US ground invasion of Iran coming. That is utterly ridiculous assumption. What can happen is the USAF joins the Israeli Air Force in turning large parts of Iran into Gaza. Thats the threat.

I don't think US wants a ground invasion, but I have no doubt that it's what Iran and Israel want. At some point, if the war keeps escalating, a ground invasion will be inevitable.

 

[Distant_Observer]

I fully agree. This is why I think it would be a critical error. Time to take an off ramp.

Ayatollahs may want to go down with the ship but should consider the lives of their citizens.

They do not have dominion over their airspace, it was over on the 1st night of attacks.

 

[onlinpunit]

If it escalates enough, the US will see no other option but to invade with ground troops.

Without AD and air force Iranian Ground Forces will be in serious disadvantage. Geography will definitely help but only to an extent.

 

[Watandar]

I agree. Israel should, in the interests of peace, offer something to Iran and its allies (I.e. the Palestinians and others).

If Israel is genuinely interested in some form of truth and reconciliation regarding its malevolent designs in the middle east since the early 20th Century, then I suspect Arabs, Iranians and others would at least hear what they have to say. Beyond that, it is up to the belligerent parties to determine an outcome that is fairest for them.

It could be very simple, but the hasbara makes it impossible.

At the moment, all you are observing over generations is constant Kevin Pietersen-esque switch-hitting by Mossad. Today they "support" arabs, tomorrow Iranians, today seculars, tomorrow ISIS, today the druze, tomorrow the kurds.

Do you see how Mossad works now? Eventually, Mossad's "ally-du-jours" turns against Mossad because it realises Israel is using it as a dalitised pawn. Then Mossad activates another asset against its former asset.

There is much that Israel and Israel's victims likewise need to take stock of and reflect on in order for any sort of solution to emerge from this. Some lifelong national habits will need to change in a number of countries. And the underlying truth of it all is that Israel needs to take the first step (and don't think that Israel herself does not know this!).

If it does not, the war will certainly be perpetual and generational, only with different opponents for Israel as old assets expire and new ones become deployed.

Good post. Israel uses force and only respects force. They are also patient and wait long time to implement their agenda. The 1948 Nakba was planned for decades, and the recent Lebanon war and Iran war were also conceptually adopted in 1990s, with actual planning and preparations since the 2000s. The Israelis are "winning" for the last 100 years, and hence their ambitions simply multiply. Originally Zionism was about just Palestine, but now with all their successes in land and power, its now about Greater Israel, a plan they are slowly implementing over the next few centuries.

For Israelis to be genuinely interested in peace, they will need to suffer defeats and come back to reality. Thats not the case right now, all we see is immense arrogance mixed with Jewish supremacy mixed with victimhood. Israel demands submission and practices domination.