Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I think this is a bad calculation by the Iranians at this time. This is exactly what Netanyahu wanted to happen.

The focus should be converting Israel to a weakened and crippled state by continued attacks.

If the US was attacking Iran continuously that would be different.
 
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If there's no punitve action to stop Isreal soon then Khamenai is most probably to delegate this authority (Willingly or unwillingly) to initiate ceasefire.


Closing strait for longer period will stop all the sympathies towards Iran as it will directly hit the common people. The way Israeli drons and jets are attacking in cities of Iran, it's evident that Iran have lost AD capabilities, with all Spy settlite of US, Israel and EU glued to Iran, they're not in position to fire missiles in number as they did on first day.

Putin will use Iran as levrage to negotiate over Ukrine and will sell Iran on proper price, China never gets involved directly, plus I think Iran don't have any experience of Chinese platform (I may be wrong as I stopped following defence topics).

Long war will have huge impact on Isreal economy but Jews have deep pockets and strong lobbies to make US & Euorpe pay the bills, however it will be fatel for Iranian economy and regime as well, Economic sitution of Irainan people have been drasttically detioriated in last few years and I have seen first hand that people have to do multiple works to cover their monthly expenses. I don't think they will be able to endure it for long.

So, I have feeling that regime will happily accept if war is stopped and gurantees of not going for regime change are given. Let's see if US is interested in installing his puppet now or ready to extract maximum beneifts at this stage and put the regime change goal on pending for now.

If Iran has resort to "Symbolic" attacks than I will retrite my understanding of the situation that Iranian leadrship is looking for deal where compaign against them stops and US don't push for Regime Change (That if Khamanei still have control, otherwise current goverment may sideline him)
 
Panic in Doha during attempted Iranian strikes.
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Israel can go to hell. But Saudia Arab is our friend you guys like it or not. Hopefully Iran will not attack American bases in Saudia Arab. MBS will not tolerate this.
LOL MBS can't defeat the half-starved Houthis fighting in sandals, with all the modern and advanced US weaponry at his disposal. Please.
 
it is very easy to tut tut and tell Iranians what to do.
they been backstabbed and abandoned
other than Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan almost all other countries in the neighborhood.

Americans are clearly demanding surrender and regime change and Israelis wont stop their attacks , Saudis Qataris, Egyptians and Jordanian leaders are getting excited and rooting for team Israel.

when Iran is Balkanized and loses the grip internally then BLA and its affiliates will increase the scale of their attacks on both sides of borders. Pakistan will need to bring its forces to Iranian borders and do something about insurgency to discourage wannabe opportunists.
 
I agree. Iran needed an off ramp with the Americans and have decided to continue to focus on Israel.

The question is will the Americans accept that or continue their attacks? If Americans continue their attacks because Iran continuation of attacks on Israel, then Iran will have escalate it's attack on GCC munafiqs.

I wonder 🤔 if the Americans working with Israel would actually like to see an Iran versus GCC war and this is actually part of a wider plan. It's not like they have any love for the shiny tall building GCC. Interesting to see how this develops.

Perhaps time to sell you properties in Dubai corrupt Pakistanis.
I know the Israelis would love to stop and have the Arab “leaders”do their work for them perhaps with costly land invasion that will weaken these puppets even more so Israel can become even stronger with American assistance
 
it is very easy to tut tut and tell Iranians what to do.
they been backstabbed and abandoned
other than Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan almost all other countries in the neighborhood.

Americans are clearly demanding surrender and regime change and Israelis wont stop their attacks , Saudis Qataris, Egyptians and Jordanian leaders are getting excited and rooting for team Israel.

when Iran is Balkanized and loses the grip internally then BLA and its affiliates will increase the scale of their attacks on both sides of borders. Pakistan will need to bring its forces to Iranian borders and do something about insurgency to discourage wannabe opportunists.
Please, Iranians have done their fair share of backstabbing, too.
 
India accepted the mistake thru hotline in Mian Chunno case. Go and Google it first
Lol Pak was bound to handover prisoner of war within 7 days once airing him on TV. Had ISPR not paraded abhinandan than we could had kept him in prison as much as we want.

Could have kept him for 7 days. State Bank of IMF would not have defaulted in 5 more days.
I wont blame Imran over that. it was a military decision in the end. Saudis and Americans approached Pakistan to release and not respond.

this time Pakistan didnt attend Saudi calls.

Why would anyone blame Niazi when their target is the Fauj?
 
QTR85N seems to be flying comfortably to its destination airport as if it knew this was a limited thing.
 
Such an action should have been expected given Iran said that their response would be akin to when Qasem Soleimani was killed
 
Iran please concentrate on Israel

they are on their knees

keep hammering them

and even better if you can do a True Promise 2 style attack where you hammer them with 100s of ballistic missiles

because now Israel is defenceless
 
almost entire Muslim countries that were attacked before and will be attacked in near future didnt / wont be able to manage even that theatric performance. Americans are clearly announcing their intent of regime change they will target all places where the remaining religious and military leadership is present
Maybe in the future, but Trump doesn't wanna be known as a war president.
 
As predicted the response was symbolic, my guess is that the damage (if any) will be mild. Mild enough that big chance the U.S. doesn't even respond to this. Iran gets to say they retaliated and the U.S. gets to say they accomplished their mission and the Iranian response was insignificant. Iran keeps from getting the U.S. further involved but gets to tell the government's supporters that they did something.
 
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