Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[j_hungary]

What you fail to grasp is that when a nation needs to do something for survival, the sky’s the limit. Pakistan and North Korea are prime examples both developed nuclear weapons under intense scrutiny, economic sanctions, and international pressure. Yet they succeeded. It wasn't easy, but they made it happen. If they could do it, Iran can too. How they go about it, through covert development, foreign acquisition, or seeking a nuclear umbrella is up to them.

The bottom line is this: if Iran values its national survival, nuclear capability is no longer optional. It is essential. This isn’t Israel’s first strike, and it definitely won’t be the last. If it’s not nuclear facilities today, it’ll be another reason tomorrow and sooner or later, their leadership will be subjected to a reason to be eliminated whether true or not. It’s a race against time for them.

And that’s why, once again, I stand by my point the best move for Iran right now is to shut up, lay low, and fix what needs to be fixed. Don’t flaunt supposed invulnerability. Don’t give the enemy intel wrapped in bravado. Stay silent, stay smart, and stay focused.

Pakistan got nuke on a differnet timeline, you can't compare it with what Iran or anyone going thru today, and North Korea was a mistake by Clinton, which Trump himself said he is not going to repeat (IIRC he said it during the first term)

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And you are banking on a promise on two things.

1.) Iran can just pick up and have another go again
2.) Israel will let Iran do just that.

Well, if this is the case, then yes, I will say laying low and denied everything is the best option, but what if you were wrong?

You don't generally get better if someone breathing down your neck, in fact, in a predatorary country like Israel and the US, if you do just that, Israel and US is just going to pound on you like there were no tomorrow. So, again, whatever Iranian want to do with their country is their business, I am just saying if that was me, I would go all out now, talking seems useless and it's going to be a long while (Trump just got in with his 2nd term) to play possum, you may think differently.

 

[j_hungary]

If that was the case how did the world not detect Pakistan's nukes?

Dude, you get nuke in 1990s, internet was not a thing and you think the world is that advance and can detect radiation from atmosphere from the satellite??

Also, US and China both help Pakistan get its bomb....

U.S. And China Helped Pakistan Build Its Bomb

 

[ShapurII]

Allah don't seem to be on the iranian side since 7th october....

Yahia Sinwar, who decided to attack Israel eralier than intended (with iran) completely loose the goal. Israel is now stronger, and iran weeker.

Where is your white flag, frenchie?

israel got beaten into submission just an hour ago. Iran is weaker now, but israel is on the verge of collapse because of what Iran has done to that little shit-stain on the map. israel will never exist as before after this because the settlers now understand the true vulnerability of israel. Expect millions of settlers to leave israel after this.

 

[OldTwilight]

The last attacks show that iran has plenty of firepower left and there’s basically nothing the entity can do to stop incoming missiles. Why did IRI agree to ceasefire now??

Maybe because we lost Air suprmecy in our own sky ?

 

[Khansaheeb]

Allah don't seem to be on the iranian side since 7th october....

Yahia Sinwar, who decided to attack Israel eralier than intended (with iran) completely loose the goal. Israel is now stronger, and iran weeker.

Israel is devastated , economically bankrupt , their PM is hiding in Greece or NY, no one knows. They have been decisively beaten by Iran and Israel has begged the US to intervene to save them. If Russia gives Iran nukes (assuming they already don't have them) then it is game over for Israel. Mad world gone has gone into the phase of mad MAD.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Dude, you get nuke in 1990s, internet was not a thing and you think the world is that advance and can detect radiation from atmosphere from the satellite??

Also, US and China both help Pakistan get its bomb....

U.S. And China Helped Pakistan Build Its Bomb

Afghan war help (Give time) to build bomb.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Where is your white flag, frenchie?

 

[S.Y.A]

in a predatorary country like Israel and the US

its just the US. without their backing, israel is toast.

 

[StormBreaker]

 

[Oracle]

• Change foreign policy
• stop being arrogant and so called best civilization ...
• make friends with neighbors specially gulf
• Make allies like russia china
• make good economic ties with everyone

 

[Soldier35]

Iran attacked the US military base Al-Udeid in Qatar with Ghadr-H ballistic missiles, the operation was called "Good News of Victory". It is worth noting that the US was warned about the missile attack by Iran, this was reported in Washington. The Qatari Ministry of Defense stated that air defense systems successfully repelled the missile attack on the Al-Udeid air base in Doha. Qatar used the Patriot and THAAD air defense systems of American manufacture to repel the attack, you can see their work in the video.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Unless a Middle East friendly regime shows up in Israel, Israeli civilians won’t feel safe anymore.

It would be end of Israel if Turkey starts on Israel.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

We should officially retire all F14s , Mig 21/23 , Mirage F1 , F5s , JF7s , Su22 and in the end F4s and Su-24s .... just having 100 JF17 block III is far better than all of these

In the modern war, Iran Airforce is a sitting duck. Too many different kind of aircrafts can be maintenance nightmare. Majority of aircrafts are 3rd generation and should immediately be decommissioned.

Iran needs a high-Low combination with AWACS and ground radar linked.

100 JF-17 block 3.5 and 60 4.5+ generation fighter.
10,000+ UAVs
Advance Air defence system S-500 and China option.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[Khansaheeb]

The final target is indeed Khameni

He is just a mouth piece , nothing would change if or when he is martyred. Another Mullah will take his place. But Zions will make an attempt on his life and that of Generals, scientists, etc at an any opportune moment.