Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Hayabusa said:
Yes, there are differences in how Pakistan and North Korea achieved nuclear capability, different contexts and different strategies. But the end result remains the same: they got there. Through sheer will, ruthlessness, deception, and defiance. Whether the world liked it or not, they crossed the finish line. Iran needs to chart its own path whatever that looks like but the lesson is clear: it can be done.

To me, it won’t matter if it’s Trump in office until 2029, or some other hardliner after that. The political climate is unlikely to become more forgiving. Meanwhile, Israel will never give Iran breathing space. That’s why I’ve said before building nukes must be done concurrently with other strategies. Iran needs to build a system of regional alliances, particularly with powers like China; advanced air defense systems; and a smarter, sharper intelligence network capable of preempting and neutralizing threats within.

All of these efforts have to work in synergy. It’s not just about desperation it’s about strategy. After this recent escalation, Iran has every reason to avoid being caught off guard again.

That’s also why I don’t support the idea of Iran rushing headfirst into nuclear development while bragging about it to the world. They’ve already been exposed. The smartest move now? Lick your wounds. Fortify your defenses. Rebuild quietly. And then move forward decisively and in unison. Survival isn't about noise and chest thumping. It's about preparation and doing the right thing at the right place, and at the right time.
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First thing Iran needs to do is weed out the traitors within. It set them back generals, nuclear scientists their President and almost cost them the war.
 
Khansaheeb said:
He is just a mouth piece , nothing would change if or when he is martyred. Another Mullah will take his place. But Zions will make an attempt on his life and that of Generals, scientists, etc at an any opportune moment.
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He is 88 years old , being martyred and become symbol of resistance is one of best thing can happen to him right now ...

I.R showed despite all of its corruption and incompetence is a SYSTEM and doesn't rely on any specific person to function.
 
Just focus on economic development, and cut the investment wasted in exporting revolution, at least stop wasting money in incompetent Russian junks and Shah era’s antiques(f14,f5,f4).

Anyway, it is too early to say rebuild now, even the current ceasefire is still unstable.
 
ShapurII said:
We did invite China to develop Chabahar before we gave it to the Indians. The Chinese were not interested because of US sanctions back then. I hope things have changed now.

I personally trust the Chinese more than I trust the Russians. I like Slavs, as friends, but they cannot be trusted because of their deep ties with Israel.
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I don't think Chinese care or were scared about US sanctions if doing business to develop Chabahar, and Indians were not afraid of sanctions instead ? That's absurd. If that's the case, China wouldn't be buying the vast amount of Iranian oil that US prohibits and Indians stopped buying your oil while ago.
 
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ShapurII said:
Where is your white flag, frenchie?

israel got beaten into submission just an hour ago. Iran is weaker now, but israel is on the verge of collapse because of what Iran has done to that little shit-stain on the map. israel will never exist as before after this because the settlers now understand the true vulnerability of israel. Expect millions of settlers to leave israel after this.
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OK. sometime I'm a indian, now a frenchie. Very funny.

Israel is stronger than ever. They are in peace with all the direct neighbors (except the fallen Syria), and just have now one foe : Iran.
If they succeed against 3 neighbors attacking them by surprise, do you really think Iran can resist? NO.

You really underestimate this people.
 
j_hungary said:
Maybe, but I will say people weren't that reluctant for Pakistan to get the bomb, compare to how they felt about Iran getting one, so we shouldn't be comparing the two.
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The whole Zion nexus tried everyway to stop Pakistan from building the bomb, from murdering Pakistani nuclear students, banning Pakistanis from sensitive jobs, blocking access to nuke tech, discriminating against Pakistani kids in the workplace etc.
 
BonPlan said:
OK. sometime I'm a indian, now a frenchie. Very funny.

Israel is stronger than ever. They are in peace with all the direct neighbors (except the fallen Syria), and just have now one foe : Iran.
If they succeed against 3 neighbors attacking them by surprise, do you really think Iran can resist? NO.

You really underestimate this people.
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I never said you were an Indian. In fact, I didn't even know you existed here until just an hour ago. But if you insist on being an Indian, I won't stop you.

Yes, really stronger than ever. 2 of their major power plants, 2 of their major petrochemical plants, several of their top counter-intelligence, R&D and C&C buildings have been hit. Their ports have been hit. Ben Gurion has been hit. And these are just the targets we have witnessed in videos and caught on camera by bystanders during censorship. There's obviously more. Millions of settlers will leave Israel after this, tens of thousands have already left in long queues.

No, I don't underestimate them at all. They have the backing of the US and NATO, which is game changing, but they cannot sustain a long war with Iran. The US, on the other hand, remains an existential threat to Iran, but Israel is a joke.
 
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