Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

(my reading, could be wrong!)
no, thats not the truth, had that been true though:

1. US would have known the precise location/weak points of Fordow
2. IR would not have blocked all the entry points of Fordow!

Doesn’t mean they don’t have traitors within as much people who go abroad I am sure Israel has turned a couple with cash or blackmail

 

[ShapurII]

it was AI drones example Turkey used swarm AI drones in Libya first and it does damage but it is like using normal drones not ground breaking..

AI is not ground breaking just yet and far from maybe a century from now.

but laser technology is next and it will change warfare more then drones has changed it and will change warfare drastically.

IMAGINE EVERY SOLDIER HAVING HIS OWN LASER AND CAPABLE OF DOWNING ANY FIGHTER JETS OR DRONES AT WILL.. The Air threat will be reduced to tank level.

warfare will completely change

No, you didn't get it It's not about drones.

It's about target selection. Israel used AI for profiling Palestinians to decide where they should hit and who they should hit. They feed data they have collected on Palestinians to determine how dangerous a Palestinian person is, based on his activity on the internet and other sources of information they had collected on him.

It is an evil form of fascist-level inquisition that is done using modern tools. Also, companies like Microsoft are developing AI-powered goggles for helping American soldiers fight. It's been rumored that some of these goggles also use gamification strategies but it's just rumors at this point.

 

[mulj]

In my humble view USA influence in your country play a bigger role.
Pakistan ties with PGCC which have a tighter relation with India is a lot closer than it's relation with iran

My country is irrelevant and messy politically, no need for going over defensive mode over friendly suggestion.
As i said to your other country men, i wish you full success and best outcome in going alone mode.

 

[Shags101]

No, you didn't get it It's not about drones.

It's about target selection. Israel used AI for profiling Palestinians to decide where they should hit and who they should hit. They feed data they have collected on Palestinians to determine how dangerous a Palestinian person is, based on his activity on the internet and other sources of information they had collected on him.

It is an evil form of fascist-level inquisition that is done using modern tools. Also, companies like Microsoft are developing AI-powered goggles for helping American soldiers fight. It's been rumored that some of these goggles also use gamification strategies but it's just rumors at this point.

So I guess all Palestinians are dangerous definitely believe ai works but Israel targets the mass population regardless of whose a fighter or not they killed a thousand in a week promise you only a handful were fighters

 

[Type59]

Iraq will never be offered J-35 aircraft they are in bed with the US.

Egypt been offered j 10s and J35.

 

[ShapurII]

So I guess all Palestinians are dangerous definitely believe ai works but Israel targets the mass population regardless of whose a fighter or not they killed a thousand in a week promise you only a handful were fighters

Israel is a genocidal ethno-fascist state.
I obviously didn't say that to undermine the ongoing genocide that Israel is committing against innocent Palestinians, but it is a fact that Israel is using AI for target selection.
In fact, a lot of employees at Google, Facebook and Microsoft were fired because they disagreed with abusing their tools and sharing personal data with Israeli intelligence services.

 

[Farhan23]

No, you didn't get it It's not about drones.

It's about target selection. Israel used AI for profiling Palestinians to decide where they should hit and who they should hit. They feed data they have collected on Palestinians to determine how dangerous a Palestinian person is, based on his activity on the internet and other sources of information they had collected on him.

It is an evil form of fascist-level inquisition that is done using modern tools. Also, companies like Microsoft are developing AI-powered goggles for helping American soldiers fight. It's been rumored that some of these goggles also use gamification strategies but it's just rumors at this point.

Lmao my brother you are very thick.. All that profiling is irrelevant it was just a fuking drone mann.

No No. Don´t buy into all that AI powered goggles they don´t really help anyone but when I say next weapon of choice it´s gonna be a weapon that will make noise and fuking effective weapon.

WW3 it was all about the tanks
Cold Wars: It was about stingers and anti-tank weapons
fast forward today it is about drones
Next decade will be laser weapons turn

But the laser weapons will do alot of ground work and change the face of modern combat as you know?

You get my drift?

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Doesn’t mean they don’t have traitors within as much people who go abroad I am sure Israel has turned a couple with cash or blackmail

utterly stupid thing to say!

spies are not the problem, recognition and identification is the problem!
like saying, vacuum cannot create air pressure (untrue by nature!)

 

[samejjangir]

Because we have a strategic partnership with Russia, I mean literally, we have a treaty on comprehensive strategic partnership with Russia, we have extensive military ties with Russia, we have extensive economic ties with Russia. None of these are true about India.

Iranian–Russian Treaty on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The partnership was ratified by Iran on 11 June! The strikes happened on 12June. So, you can't talk about the strategic partnership here. Also, Iranian military ties with Russia is more for Iran's benefits. It was using Russia in Syria to deploy its own proxies and develop networks. This is why Russia decided to withdraw from Syria as long as its bases were guaranteed by new regime.

Iran had its own agendas and was never in line with Russian goals. It was only a short term partnership. Even in the recent treaty Iran refused military alliance as that would make it lose some of its sovereignty and even compel it to fight Russian wars in Ukraine etc.

There's a flaw in your logic though.
If we resolve our issues with the US (and consequentially, Israel), we won't even need a strategic alliance with Pakistan or China to begin with. We need China to stand against the US. If there is no feud with the US anymore, China can at best be an economic partner of Iran. And Pakistan may finally build their side of the pipeline after a decade of delay.

This is the exact problem with China that I was talking about, and you just confirmed I was right.

China is not a militaristic country. It only went to war for Korea as Korea is its sister state & USA had meddled too much in its affairs during civil war. Moreover, Iran hasn't given anything of value to China for it to go on a limb for Iran

 

[Shags101]

Israel is a genocidal ethno-fascist state.
I obviously didn't say that to undermine the ongoing genocide that Israel is committing against innocent Palestinians, but it is a fact that Israel is using AI for target selection.
In fact, a lot of employees at Google, Facebook and Microsoft were fired because they disagreed with abusing their tools and sharing personal data with Israeli intelligence services.

Not saying they don’t just saying Mossad and shin bet are surgical go after individual targets if that includes collateral damage that’s fine idf and iaf are just a hammer that will destroy anything without blinking an eye to the death and carnage including killing of their own people

 

[Musings]

Seeing some reports about the Israelis strictly enforcing ‘no coverage’ of Iranian damage inflicted on military and strategic sites.

I’ve also read multiple reports from Western news outlets interviewing different Israelis that they ‘know several families who have lost someone’.

The damage inflicted by Iran appears to have been significant.

Im not a war fan but with israel the iranians didnt have a choice. They attacked not expecting the response - iran was doing massive damage -
Calls made to the USA to intervene and voila - here we are. Iran still heads up.
On the other side i hear massive amount of Europeans have gone back home to Poland etc via Cyprus and Jordan.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Stop fooling yourself.

If it wasn't for the ceasefire, Zion would've continued to take pot shots at its civilian infrastructure.

Ask yourself, why wasn't Iran able to stop Zion's aircraft from taking off from their usual airbases for 12 days despite Iranian missiles were getting through and hitting buildings?

Why did Israel beg US to help them, because militarily they were getting a thrashing. Tel-Aviv was beginning to look like Gaza and with depleting ammo the Jews had no choice but to plead for US help. US can only help the Jews to certain extent before the Israeli entity becomes a liability to US national interests.

 

[ShapurII]

The partnership was ratified by Iran on 11 June! The strikes happened on 12June. So, you can't talk about the strategic partnership here. Also, Iranian military ties with Russia is more for Iran's benefits. It was using Russia in Syria to deploy its own proxies and develop networks. This is why Russia decided to withdraw from Syria as long as its bases were guaranteed by new regime.

It was signed on January 17, 2025. Russia had ratified it on April 8, 2025 and Putin signed it on April 21st, 2025. It was effective on June 12th, 2025. Russia was given a lot of concessions in Syria, including phosphorus reserves and access to Syrian ports.

Iran had its own agendas and was never in line with Russian goals. It was only a short term partnership. Even in the recent treaty Iran refused military alliance as that would make it lose some of its sovereignty and even compel it to fight Russian wars in Ukraine etc.

China is not a militaristic country. It only went to war for Korea as Korea is its sister state & USA had meddled too much in its affairs during civil war. Moreover, Iran hasn't given anything of value to China for it to go on a limb for Iran

Iran armed Russia with Shahed-136 drones. Over 100,000 drones were sold to Russia with ToT and production lines. Russia to this day is still using Shahed-136 drones in the war under the name Geran-2.

China is very economic-oriented and transactional at this point. China has been given enough opportunities in Iran, including deals that were worth tens of billions of dollars but the Chinese were not interested because of US sanctions.

 

[Shags101]

utterly stupid thing to say!

spies are not the problem, recognition and identification is the problem!
like saying, vacuum cannot create air pressure (untrue by nature!)

No not really stupid Israel has had spies in many countries or people willing to help for cash or have been blackmailed do you think Mossad hasn’t put spies in uae or hit squads in different countries they have don’t it many times in the past and present

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Im not a war fan but with israel the iranians didnt have a choice. They attacked not expecting the response - iran was doing massive damage -
Calls made to the USA to intervene and voila - here we are. Iran still head up.
On the other side i hear massive amount of Europeans have gone back home to Poland etc via Cyprus and Jordan.

IR did not degrade entity's offensive capability (I am not a war expert, but, I can read between the lines)
IR caused damage but did not hurt significant military or civilian infrastructure when in fact, their senior military leadership took damage!

clearly, IR was going for attrition, and, in that process, would have suffered more damage.

on the last day, military HQ got destroyed too... did that happen to entity too?!

no!