Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

For Iran if they don't have AWACs , I am sure they could have created alternative to AWACs

Emergency recon balloons for their Landmass which would have provided more details coverage of their terrain for protecting it from dinky drones

Iran Land mass so quite huge , they can pop one of these babies anywhere in Iran




The issue with Iran is "Lack" of air intelligence

Right now they are pointing fingers in all direction , obviously angry after the conflict with Israel

Either send up some Local Iranian Radar modules up in air or get AWAC from China

 

[ShapurII]

For Iran if they don't have AWACs , I am sure they could have created alternative to AWACs

Emergency recon balloons for their Landmass which would have provided more details coverage of their terrain for protecting it from dinky drones

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The issue with Iran is "Lack" of air intelligence

Right now they are pointing fingers in all direction , obviously angry after the conflict with Israel

We had 20-30 OTH radars. Some of them could still be active.

You can cry all you want about how Turkey and Republic of Azerbaijan are anti-Israel states, it's not going to change the facts.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Make the F…ing B Mr. Khamenei
Stop with the theatrics of brotherly love from hyenas all around Iran.
It will be a tough 10 to 15 years, but Iran will come back hundred fold stronger

It's more complicated than that, Iran should make it when ICBM reaching US, Australia, Europe, would be ready as well. I think Iran is still waiting until october when the last diplomatic option is run out (hoping that snapback doesnt get activated).

Meanwhile maybe US and Israel are pushing/pressuring Iran towards a bomb to say look Iran is working on nuclear weapons. The world opinion is turning very fast against Israel and USA.

 

[ShapurII]

It's more complicated than that, Iran should make it when ICBM reaching US, Australia, Europe, would be ready as well. I think Iran is still waiting until october when the last diplomatic option is run out (hoping that snapback doesnt get activated).

Meanwhile maybe US and Israel are pushing/pressuring Iran towards a bomb to say look Iran is working on nuclear weapons. The world opinion is turning very fast against Israel and USA.

Please, do not even entertain the idea of threatening the US mainland with nuclear weapons. The same goes for the UK or France.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

If Iran don't have AWAC or proper air intelligence , it is not Turkey or Azerbaijan issue, they have already told Israel , don't fly in our air space

However Israel can violate airspace for few minutes it is possible

You have a gap and you need to fix the problem
Put a local radar on it whose stopping you from Innovating ideas ?


Why did Iran not mass produce F-5? Why stopped after 10-15 planes?

Did you even create a propeller based plane that can carry BVR missiles? In 35 years !!! Forget about Mach 2.2 , you could even just load 4 BVR missile on Propeller based platform

Iran invested only in SAM systems , and ground based radar , so lessons learned

The Super Sonic stuff was above beyond expectation of most people in world , it was high even response


Who is stopping you from having human command post with night vision to detect intrusion visually




Searching for Refuel Tanks after conflict /war is a reactive action

Not thinking ahead

 

[vmro]

who is exactly protecting who here?
1/3rd of Western naval is deployed to protect who?


Please don't tell me, they are 'Zionists'!

To protect the essence of American economic power, the petrodollar system...America is no longer dependent on third countries for oil itself... But that means nothing, the petrol market is the major global market, all transactions are in dollars, what makes dollars as valuable as gold...

That's the pillar of American purchasing power...

That's the ultimate target of Chinese projects, to get it done by Chinese omnipresence, the road is not finished yet...

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

To protect the essence of American economic power, the petrodollar system...America is no longer dependent on third countries for oil itself... But that means nothing, the petrol market is the major global market, all transactions are in dollars, what makes dollars as valuable as gold...

That's the pillar of American purchasing power...

That's the ultimate target of Chinese projects, to get it done by Chinese omnipresence, the road is not finished yet...

Real war will start when Hormuz will be blocked.
Thats when alliances will be tested!

 

[Watandar]

Real war will start when Hormuz will be blocked.
Thats when alliances will be tested!

Speaking of Hormuz straits, article here says Iran was ready to begin mining it after Israeli attack. Wonder if this was messaging or Iranians preparing for the worst.

Report: Iran Loaded Out Naval Mines in Preparation to Close Hormuz

Iran's naval forces were loading up mines in preparation for a possible closure of the Strait of Hormuz, two U.S. officials told Reuters this wee...

maritime-executive.com

 

[tsunset]

Iran survived the Mongols and will certainly survive against the attacks of these pork-eating, wine-drinking genocidal Jewkrainians AngloJew Nazis with big noses. It will never be destroyed as a country

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

There is no tactical advantage for Turkey or Azerbaijan to create a humanitarian crisis on their own borders , they are already trying to fix issue in Syria

• Already dealing with Syrian refugees and humanitarian crisis

An Unstable Iran , creates lot of issues across Turkey/Azerbaijan on West and even Pakistan on Eastern front

• Immigration crisis, Immediate crisis
• Long term Migrants across Afghanistan /Unstable Iran
• Disruption in Food Supply Chain across Region
• Disruption of Trade route between Turkey and Pakistan

 

[vmro]

Real war will start when Hormuz will be blocked.
Thats when alliances will be tested!

Even China could not make such drastic measures so fast, Chinese economy itself would be hurt, projects would be canceled etc...

Chinese way is long-term step by step absorption the major market in different kind, with strategic economic partnership with literally everyone ..

But, Chinese is not going to waste the opportunity to be able to inflict capital damage on American economic rule in the right moment..

So yes, Hormuz is ultra important for global geopolitical dynamics from any point of view... And that's why Chinese cargos was quick to land somewhere near Iranian land, before disappearing and appearing again...in China...

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Even China could not make such drastic measures so fast, Chinese economy itself would be hurt, projects would be canceled etc...

Chinese way is long-term step by step absorption the major market in different kind, with strategic economic partnership with literally everyone ..

But, Chinese is not going to waste the opportunity to be able to inflict capital damage on American economic rule in the right moment..

So yes, Hormuz is ultra important for global geopolitical dynamics from any point of view... And that's why Chinese cargos was quick to land somewhere near Iranian land, before disappearing and appearing again...in China...

jets on aircraft carriers need fuel!

 

[vmro]

Iran survived the Mongols and will certainly survive against the attacks of these pork-eating, wine-drinking genocidal Jewkrainians AngloJew Nazis with big noses. It will never be destroyed as a country

For Iran main obstacle, as well as for Russia, is never-ending hope to deal with west, what of course, is perceived by China in...not very good manner...

West being west, did what it did...

 

[StrategicBear]

For Iran main obstacle, as well as for Russia, is never-ending hope to deal with west, what of course, is perceived by China in...not very good manner...

West being west, did what it did...

Their best bet is to help China overthrow the West rather than making a deal with the West. Let the West be busy with Muslims in the West that can become their governments in the future.

 

[vmro]

Their best bet is to help China overthrow the West rather than making a deal with the West. Let the West be busy with Muslims in the West that can become their governments in the future.

That's for sure, now is IN in American leftists circles support for Muslims, gays and feminists...hardly you can put all 3 of them in one room without incident...they don't even have single subject to discuss that could be interesting for all 3 of them...

But Muslims, and indians in british case, will be increasingly important in political landscape there, and probably is matter of time for being dominant...

But there is catch here...what will be Islam for Muslims in the west is what is now Christianity in Europe...part of tradition, folklore and zero "true believers" in classic ways...

Modern Muslims, that is be something like hipster ancestry, exotica and inspiring old-school humanity...

I have nothing against Islam, becase following codes of values and determination through life means discipline, means shaped persons, unlike confused gen-z on the west...

But that's the poison that will hardly avoid Islamic world in the western countries...