Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Rational Philosopher]

I don't think they are trying to destroy underground nuclear sites, Netanyahu seems to have some sort of delusion of wanting to turn Iran into Dahiya.

Iran is way too big to use the Dahiya doctrine.

 

[nang2]

Yes, you don't pay us in traditional manner, basically we are selling our oil on discount as loans ... you pay money as YUAN in your own bank, and we only can buy from you!!!

Then why you ask Dollars as payment medium not Yuan for fighter!? because you really don't want to sell but want to play smart: " we offered them to Iran, Iran refused to buy "

Nay, that wouldn't be smart since even a 3-year old can see through it. China has been promoting the use of Yuan. Doing the opposite would make no sense.

 

[OldTwilight]

I am not aware that China is paying Iran with Yuan. Do you have any evidence for that? I think China is paying Iran with either dollar or euro. I think Iran probably prefers the latter.

Actually, there is. This is from BBC in 2012: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-17988142

Another one here: https://infofinance.com/en/news/chi...-here-s-how-and-why-that-s-unlikely-to-change

However, if Iran has a Yuan account in Beijing, I don't understand why China would force dollar payment. It is not like China needs dollars.

All money goes to Chinese bank, Then Iranian merchants are allowed to buy only non-sanction products from China ... if Iran want to get money as euro, we should pay very high conversation rates to Chinese bank. in practice, China is in control of the money.

 

[OldTwilight]

Very hard strike by Iran (reformist) against China and Russia ...
when China and Russia asked Iran to not accept Snapback mechanism (and they will support Iran to remove it) in JCPOA , Zarif and Rouhani didn't accept their offer ... Pezeshkian government remove the military part of Iran-Russia strategic treaty ...

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[nang2]

All money goes to Chinese bank, Then Iranian merchants are allowed to buy only non-sanction products from China ... if Iran want to get money as euro, we should pay very high conversation rates to Chinese bank. in practice, China is in control of the money.

Of course, Yuan in China's currency after all. Just like Dollar is American. I understand that Iran's position isn't great. But do you want China not buying Iranian oil at all?

 

[ShapurII]

Very hard strike by Iran (reformist) against China and Russia ...
when China and Russia asked Iran to not accept Snapback mechanism (and they will support Iran to remove it) in JCPOA , Zarif and Rouhani didn't accept their offer ... Pezeshkian government remove the military part of Iran-Russia strategic treaty ...

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Scapegoating as usual.

 

[OldTwilight]

Of course, Yuan in China's currency after all. Just like Dollar is American. I understand that Iran's position isn't great. But do you want China not buying Iranian oil at all?

Well, then sell the fighters and military equipment in Yuan as well, don't ask for dollar for payment from Iran because we don't have any.

 

[OldTwilight]

این خامنه ای اگه تخم داره ، می ره و 300 تا کله گنده اصلاح طلب و اصولگرا رو اعدام می کنه تا کشور شاید شانسی داشته باشه

ظریف عمدا بند مکانیزم ماشه رو در حالی که روس ها و چینی ها می گند قبول نکن ، قبول می کنه .
روحانی خرید جنگنده از چین و روسیه رو رد می کنه و می گه بریم از فرانسه بخریم
پزشکیان به جایی که با پوتین و رئیس جمهور چین تلفنی صحبت کنه می ره با مکرون و اردوغان و علی اف صحبت می کنه و از اینکه توی ادارات فارسی استفاده می شه ناراحته !!!

باز کردن دروازه برای دشمن که هیچ ، شلوار مدافعان کشور رو هم اصلاح طلب ها از پاشون در آوردند.

 

[nang2]

Well, then sell the fighters and military equipment in Yuan as well, don't ask for dollar for payment from Iran because we don't have any.

Well, I think the story of asking for dollar is most likely a fake one, particularly if Iran claims that it has enough Yuan for it. That would seriously undermine China's effort of promoting Yuan.

As of selling fighters and military equipment, I think it is only natural for China to start with something inconspicuous to strengthen the relationship first. Pakistan only got its J-10s in 2022 after many years of cooperation with JF-17 and other aircraft.

 

[ShapurII]

این خامنه ای اگه تخم داره ، می ره و 300 تا کله گنده اصلاح طلب و اصولگرا رو اعدام می کنه تا کشور شاید شانسی داشته باشه

ظریف عمدا بند مکانیزم ماشه رو در حالی که روس ها و چینی ها می گند قبول نکن ، قبول می کنه .
روحانی خرید جنگنده از چین و روسیه رو رد می کنه و می گه بریم از فرانسه بخریم
پزشکیان به جایی که با پوتین و رئیس جمهور چین تلفنی صحبت کنه می ره با مکرون و اردوغان و علی اف صحبت می کنه و از اینکه توی ادارات فارسی استفاده می شه ناراحته !!!

باز کردن دروازه برای دشمن که هیچ ، شلوار مدافعان کشور رو هم اصلاح طلب ها از پاشون در آوردند.

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رسیدن پزشکیان به ریاست جمهوری بدون هماهنگی با اصولگراها نه تنها شدنی نبود، بلکه این خود اصولگراها بودن که پزشکیان رو آوردن سر کار. خودشون عمداً انتخابات رو با چینش کاندیداها و رو در رو قراردادن جلیلی با قالیباف مهندسی کردن تا پزشکیان رئیس جمهور بشه
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[Al-Zakir]

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[muhammed45]

این خامنه ای اگه تخم داره ، می ره و 300 تا کله گنده اصلاح طلب و اصولگرا رو اعدام می کنه تا کشور شاید شانسی داشته باشه

ظریف عمدا بند مکانیزم ماشه رو در حالی که روس ها و چینی ها می گند قبول نکن ، قبول می کنه .
روحانی خرید جنگنده از چین و روسیه رو رد می کنه و می گه بریم از فرانسه بخریم
پزشکیان به جایی که با پوتین و رئیس جمهور چین تلفنی صحبت کنه می ره با مکرون و اردوغان و علی اف صحبت می کنه و از اینکه توی ادارات فارسی استفاده می شه ناراحته !!!

باز کردن دروازه برای دشمن که هیچ ، شلوار مدافعان کشور رو هم اصلاح طلب ها از پاشون در آوردند.

Take it easy man.

خیرالامور اوسطها

Don't ask for extremism. Be it sunni or Shia leaders, they care about people's votes and its results. We have learnt it the hard way.

You blame him for your own vote? Talk about Nahravan Sheiks

 

[Arash]

I saw pezeshkian (peshkelian) interview with Tucker Carlson, I would give him a 3 out of 10. It was more like Tucker Carlson found some random guy out of the mosque or some tea server and asked him for an interview.

This guy (Pezeshkian) thinks by repeating and screaming the word "peace" as much as possible during 30 minutes interview gives more weight to his speech.

For example he didnt name JCPOA contract, that trump stepped out of the deal, that we got our scientists martyred and nuclear facilities sabotaged (I'm talking about the privious aggressions).

He didnt mention any statistics, like Iran is the most controlled state when it comes to IAEA, or the history of Iran and IAEA (working together since the 50s)
He didnt mention the role of Iranians in USA, their education level (not in statistical sense).
He didnt mention anything about the coup against Mossadeq.

He's a panturkist that infiltrated the system through anti-nationalist filters (guardian council) and I'm asking myself if he's deliberately acting this weak.

Either a traitor, very stupid or totally unprepared or a combination of all 3 factors.

I think he's simply an example of what reformists are : neglected, aloof, lazy and clueless about the world around them. However to me Pezeshkian especially is really the hidden brother of Joe Biden !

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

این خامنه ای اگه تخم داره ، می ره و 300 تا کله گنده اصلاح طلب و اصولگرا رو اعدام می کنه تا کشور شاید شانسی داشته باشه

ظریف عمدا بند مکانیزم ماشه رو در حالی که روس ها و چینی ها می گند قبول نکن ، قبول می کنه .
روحانی خرید جنگنده از چین و روسیه رو رد می کنه و می گه بریم از فرانسه بخریم
پزشکیان به جایی که با پوتین و رئیس جمهور چین تلفنی صحبت کنه می ره با مکرون و اردوغان و علی اف صحبت می کنه و از اینکه توی ادارات فارسی استفاده می شه ناراحته !!!

باز کردن دروازه برای دشمن که هیچ ، شلوار مدافعان کشور رو هم اصلاح طلب ها از پاشون در آوردند.

If they dont round up the mossad traitors and corrupt oligarchs in the system, eventually the traitors and oligarchs will sign a capitulation deal with west to continue plundering and treason against Iran and those figures who had the power, but didnt round them up and execute them, they themselves will be executed (Khamenei included).

It's up to them to repeat the unforgivable mistakes of past 45 years, maybe they want their own death while sleeping in their appartment, just like how Bagheri and Hajizadeh got martyred because they and close associates didnt round up the corrupt oligarchs and mossad traitors to execute them.

Did they hang those who created Debsh Tea scandal? stealing billions USD from Iranian population.

 

[ShapurII]

وزیر امور خارجه روسیه گفت: از زمان خروج یکجانبه آمریکا از برجام، ایران هیچ تعهدی برای محدود کردن غنی‌سازی اورانیوم نداشت. ما آماده‌ایم مازاد اورانیوم بیش از حد غنی‌شده ایران را برای فرآوری به روسیه منتقل کنیم و اورانیوم غنی‌شده مورد نیاز تولید انرژی را به تأسیسات انرژی هسته‌ای ایران برگردانیم


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