Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

There is one explanation. First,. The West pays the corrupt people in charge to bounce Chinese investments. Second, the national wealth that they have embezzled is in Western banks, so they have to play along so their sons and daughters can hobnob in Western cities and nightclubs.

 

[kastor ville]

I really like Col Wilkerson, he's the kind of American that the world looked up to for decades after WWII. They're almost all gone.....replaced by MAGA, braindead, racist knuckleheads. Watch the 20 min mark, about his remarks about Iran.....

 

[vmro]

You have to stop watching Jewish Hollywood.

Hollywood was the most underrated part of zionistic mechanism of global influence and opinion-shaping tool...

It's all over, nothing beyond the Batman’s endless trilogies can attract someone to watch them...

Days of the glory and planetary popularity are at least 1 or 2 decades put in irreversible history...

 

[ShapurII]

The jews biggest threat is their own primitiveness. They are still culturally in 2000 BC talking about amalek and killing all their animals and such. With EU member states calling for ending free trade and the first Arms embargo by a EU member (albeit a small one), our best bet is they go to way of apartheid South Africa. IR will never be able to force a military solution as long as their exists a nuclear imbalance.

I actually see some unexpected good moves from IR with Araghchi setting compensation and recognition of enrichment rights as a prerequisite for talks... as long as they stick to it. And his suggestion for a mutual defense framework for SCO means they recognize the need for military alliances to counter the euro-apes. It helps that Trump crashes out and tarrifs an ally everytime his jew handlers crack the whip. He recently reportedly advised his handlers that his base is starting to hate jews. But their will be hard times still yet. Their are many issues IR must resolve.

I'm not as optimistic as you are. They say one thing, but they act in a different way. I mean they literally held talks with the Europeans and they're allowing IAEA inspects (i.e. IAEA spies) to return to Iran. We are returning to pre-war conditions like nothing has happened, as if those 12 days didn't exist.

All this "compensation" talk is ridiculous and it's just to save face. The US is not going to give Iran a penny. Iran will receive compensation for our destroyed nuclear infrastructure as much as we received compensation for nearly 2 trillion dollars that the US froze after the US embassy crisis in 1980, or the US support during the Iraq-Iran war, or the US sanctions on Iran after unilaterally terminating the JCPOA.

However Islamic republic, for whatever reason, exposed, harmed the regime and made it decline way faster than it would naturally. Imagine if Iran was like any other country in the world or West Asia, be sure Israel would act 10x more aggressive than now.

The Achilles' heel of Israel is its own supremacist, ultranationalist society, it has nothing to do with the Islamic Republic. The Islamic Republic has been thoroughly defeated in its war against Zionism.

 

[BigMela2onin]

All this "compensation" talk is ridiculous and it's just to save face. The US is not going to give Iran a penny. Iran will receive compensation for our destroyed nuclear infrastructure as much as we received compensation for nearly 2 trillion dollars that the US froze after the US embassy crisis in 1980, or the US support during the Iraq-Iran war, or the US sanctions on Iran after unilaterally terminating the JCPOA.

To clarify, my point is there will be no negotiations because the prerequisites are a non-starter. That's why I said Aragchi setting them was good. It closed the door to negotiations to the US. They just have to stick to it and prepare for conflict as such.

 

[Persian Gulf]

To clarify, my point is there will be no negotiations because the prerequisites are a non-starter. That's why I said Aragchi setting them was good. It closed the door to negotiations to the US. They just have to stick to it and prepare for conflict as such.

they tried to seek compensation for 2018 breach before too

did that stop negotiations?

 

[ShapurII]

To clarify, my point is there will be no negotiations because the prerequisites are a non-starter. That's why I said Aragchi setting them was good. It closed the door to negotiations to the US. They just have to stick to it and prepare for conflict as such.

What did they do with the Europeans in the Consulate of Iran in Istanbul? I thought they were negotiating. And the Europeans only had demands, nothing to give to Iran, except for extending their control over Iran by renewing the snapback mechanism for 6 months.

 

[vmro]

What did they do with the Europeans in the Consulate of Iran in Istanbul? I thought they were negotiating. And the Europeans only had demands, nothing to give to Iran, except for extending their control over Iran by renewing the snapback mechanism for 6 months.

For a while, Europeans tried to act as a good cop, the one who is honest with Iran and disagrees with the bad cop Trump...

Although I have no idea what factor the EU is in this story, when they are not able to ensure their own yard...

 

[ShapurII]

For a while, Europeans tried to act as a good cop, the one who is honest with Iran and disagrees with the bad cop Trump...

Although I have no idea what factor the EU is in this story, when they are not able to ensure their own yard...

No, they didn't. They didn't even try to act as the good cop this time. They just demanded things right away and threatened Iran with the snapback mechanism if it doesn't comply with their demands.

The good cop game was in 2018, not now.

 

[BigMela2onin]

 

[BigMela2onin]

they tried to seek compensation for 2018 breach before too

did that stop negotiations?

Tehran was not being bombed then. We will see what happens. Obviously compensation will not be given, but there are some signs that finally their strategy and thinking is changing.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Tehran was not being bombed then. We will see what happens. Obviously compensation will not be given, but there are some signs that finally their strategy and thinking is changing.

I think you are too optimistic

I see no real changes and the same mistakes

 

[Persian Gulf]

if only the IRI leaders were not so fat and lazy and corrupt they could be doing so much more to unite the population and bring the educated secular youth into the fold

 

[BigMela2onin]

 

[vmro]

Interesting...
Is Larijani material for the next leader of Iran, regardless of positioned nomenclature and eventual leading body's format???

What is his popularity and respect in Iran???