Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[vmro]

We're now in uncharted territories and the ship has no captain, it seems.

Maybe, but quick observation on the Larijani and some unusual insider's "obstacles" he had, his clerical pedigree, IRGC background and well-known personality in the public...

interesting patterns anyway...

 

[Sarhang]

I think the system has changed in unexpected ways.
Seems like Khamenei no longer calls the shots, or at least he's less of a factor than say 10 years ago.

We're now in uncharted territories and the ship has no captain, it seems.

Not a single decision made by the SNSC goes through without Khameneis signature.
So tell me again what kind of not calling the shots is this?

Just because he dumps all the responsibilities on others and has zero qualifications, zero skill and zero expertise to pull the country out of the disaster he himself created doesnt mean he is sidelined. No he is right there giving the orders and being fed constant information by his officials. Nothing has changed.


Best case will be this guy gone within 5 years and a nationalist military figure from the army or IRGC steps up forms a Pakistan style army rule and throws out the garbage clergy who have been parasiting on Iran for far too long. Send them all back to the seminary where they belong.

 

[Sarhang]

As much as I hope for fundamental changes, it is impossible to change the IR at the moment. We first must survive the current crisis, then think about uprooting the entire system. We have very limited choices now, but the worst of all is that I believe the fate of the IR is no longer at the hands of us Iranians.

If we aree going by those metrics then yes you are right. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

 

[ShapurII]

Not a single decision made by the SNSC goes through without Khameneis signature.
So tell me again what kind of not calling the shots is this?

I don't agree with this anymore. It seems that Khamenei has lost his power in the system. He says something and then just tomorrow, right after his speech, some average dude in the system says the exact opposite of what he had said a day ago.

This is quite new. It wasn't like this 10 years ago. Nobody dared to challenge Khamenei's so-called "rahnemood" (guidelines) a few years ago. All the politicians in Iran had to compete with each other to prove who was Khamenei's most loyal bitch, but it's not like that anymore.

Just because he dumps all the responsibilities on others and has zero qualifications, zero skill and zero expertise to pull the country out of the disaster he himself created doesnt mean he is sidelined. No he is right there giving the orders and being fed constant information by his officials. Nothing has changed.

He isn't even dumping all the responsibilities on others anymore. He's just sidelined and quiet. He shows up once in a while because they need people to know that he's still alive. He talks, but nobody takes him seriously anymore.

Best case will be this guy gone within 5 years and a nationalist military figure from the army or IRGC steps up forms a Pakistan style army rule and throws out the garbage clergy who have been parasiting on Iran for far too long. Send them all back to the seminary where they belong.

First we have to survive for 5 years. The IR is terminally ill at this point. We're witnessing the symptoms of what I would call "end-stage authoritarianism". They don't have much time left, I believe. All of their enemies seem united, and they're coming for them. And the IR, and consequently Iran, seem to be defenseless.

 

[Persian Gulf]

We seriously have people here cheering for corrupt figures like Ghalibaf to hold power?

rather him than Pezeshkian

he did a good job as mayor of Tehran and has far better leadership skills and political understanding than the heart surgeon

 

[Sarhang]

I don't agree with this anymore. It seems that Khamenei has lost his power in the system. He says something and then just tomorrow, right after his speech, some average dude in the system says the exact opposite of what he had said a day ago.

This is quite new. It wasn't like this 10 years ago. Nobody dared to challenge Khamenei's so-called "rahnemood" (guidelines) a few years ago. All the politicians in Iran had to compete with each other to prove who was Khamenei's most loyal bitch, but it's not like that anymore.


He isn't even dumping all the responsibilities on others anymore. He's just sidelined and quiet. He shows up once in a while because they need people to know that he's still alive. He talks, but nobody takes him seriously anymore.


First we have to survive for 5 years. The IR is terminally ill at this point. We're witnessing the symptoms of what I would call "end-stage authoritarianism". They don't have much time left, I believe. All of their enemies seem united, and they're coming for them. And the IR, and consequently Iran, seem to be defenseless.

Lets take a look at the situation:

Economy – defeated
Military – defeated
Politics – defeated

The IR is beaten on every front. There is no coming back from this.

The moment they pick up any intel that the IR is doing nuclear work at some secret facility they will send cruise missiles or jets to bomb it again. Iran has basically been turned into a wide open whack-a mole game.
I could write thousands of posts on why and how we got here but it all comes down to the delusions of one man in Iran who thought he could sacrifice the country and drag it into endless proxy wars for a cause that has nothing to do with Iran itself directly.

As Araghchi himself said in his interview: as long as IR is IR and the West is the West, this conflict will never end until one side gives up. IR has to reform immediately for the sake of the country otherwise they will be overthrown and chaos will follow.

 

[Bharatah]

Lets take a look at the situation:

Economy – defeated
Military – defeated
Politics – defeated

The IR is beaten on every front. There is no coming back from this.

The moment they pick up any intel that the IR is doing nuclear work at some secret facility they will send cruise missiles or jets to bomb it again. Iran has basically been turned into a wide open whack-a mole game.
I could write thousands of posts on why and how we got here but it all comes down to the delusions of one man in Iran who thought he could sacrifice the country and drag it into endless proxy wars for a cause that has nothing to do with Iran itself directly.

As Araghchi himself said in his interview: as long as IR is IR and the West is the West, this conflict will never end until one side gives up. IR has to reform immediately for the sake of the country otherwise they will be overthrown and chaos will follow.

My friend, Iran was invaded by the USSR and England in the 1940s, suffered a "color revolution" by the CIA in 1953, etc. Iran has been under attack for decades.

Take the case of SYRIA: Assad left, and "Israeli" attacks increased by more than 400%.

Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, and the Islamic Republic didn't exist in 1973 or 1948, but "Israel," the United States, the British regime, France, and others were already attacking the entire Middle East.

You either fight or you will be destroyed; there is no other alternative. Iran is a place where 98% of the population is Muslim, and it must fight.

NOTE: Muslim people (today in the Middle East) are like the Native Americans in the Americas in 1500/1600. Try to find out how many Native Americans remained after their massacre in the Americas, where all their wealth and land were stolen. In this process of Indigenous destruction, the colonizers created (temporarily) wealthy Indigenous puppets to divide the resistance and advance militarily, but in the end, these wealthy Indigenous people were also destroyed, and everything was annihilated. KSA, Qatar, and Dubai are equivalent to this today; they are part of a larger plan that was already in place in the past.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Khorasan Black Flags]

Salehi and Zarif [two reformists] crazy reaction and statements,

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[Persian Gulf]

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@ShapurII these are carried by F-15s and F-16s, not drones

the corpus of evidence of Israeli jets flying over Tehran continues to grow while many pretend to believe copium theories instead

 

[Liquidator]

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@ShapurII these are carried by F-15s and F-16s, not drones

the corpus of evidence of Israeli jets flying over Tehran continues to grow while many pretend to believe copium theories instead

Relax
The aim of the jets was to primarily drop things that go boom. Distances travelled limited the time spent as well as payloads they could carry.

Iran too sent stuff their end that went boom. Knowing they cannot compete with a conventional air force, they used other means.....and the booms were much larger.

 

[vmro]

Relax
The jets aimed primarily to drop things that go boom. Distances travelled limited the time spent as well as the payloads they could carry.

Iran too sent stuff their end that went boom. Knowing they cannot compete with a conventional air force, they used other means.....and the booms were much larger.

Going in the racing airforce power of zionistic mechanism, practically USA resources, would spend the entire Iranian military budget and still stay behind, far behind... No nation can compete in this field with them...

But stronger AD is necessary, and relatively good aircraft for defensive tasks, and operating protected behind their AD lines...

In that order...now unnecessary for Iran should be AD improvement..

For Iranian stuff that went to boom in Tel Aviv, even Trump made a good PR impression....

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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@ShapurII these are carried by F-15s and F-16s, not drones

the corpus of evidence of Israeli jets flying over Tehran continues to grow while many pretend to believe copium theories instead

Those were missiles and not fighter jets.

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"It was only a hundred meters from here to our office.
And those two damn Spabak missiles on June 15 took Haj Kazem, Commander Mohaghegh, and my cousin's husband from us.
Curse the war
Curse Israel"

 

[FUB]

Always playing the victim
Anyone that has dealt with Slavs or Eastern Europeans , can see these fake joooos are creatures of some sort from the fallen lands of Khazaria (modern Ukraine ) . Interestingly , daryaye Mazandaran, it is AKA daryaye Khazar. So did they originate from Northern greater Iran or Easten Europe ? I would say Eastern Europe. Imagine genetically you’re the real Hebrews and the real owners of the land of Palestine. You have some imposters faking to be descendants of Israelites killing you , and stealing your land all while claiming to be victims.

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[ShapurII]

Those were missiles and not fighter jets.

I think you're missing the point.
He's saying that Israeli jet fighters "launched" these missiles close to Tehran, as the range of these bombs is usually less than 100-150km.