Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

 

[ShapurII]

you cannot be serious

did you go to school? I don't want to be rude. but what else can I say when you believe things like this? @ShapurII

Their delusions are too costly for the country, unfortunately.

 

[ShapurII]

I don't understand this;

When it looked like Trump was going to tear up the JCPOA, why didn't the government withdraw their holdings from foreign banks? It seems they left all their money in there and they got frozen again before they could access.

I remember there being 8 billion in liquid assets in South Korea alone.

Because sanctions were never lifted.
The JCPOA was a form of surrender, but they tried to show it as some sort of deal.

 

[ShapurII]

We will not make deals with a family (Us-rael) in which the wife (Israel) kills our children (scientists, citizens). Making deals to be bombed and killed is the position of Peshkelian, Rouhani, Zarif as of today.

But you have befriended a country that not only killed our children, but gassed our civilians to death. Do you know the name of that country?
Yeah, Iraq. Another one of our enemies that the IR loves and is feeding them cheap electricity while people in Iran have 4-hour electricity cuts. And they don't even pay us back for our electricity exports.

We offered deals and negotiations with the husband (USA), but a family where the wife (Israel) decides the faith of what the husband (USA) does to other Men (Iran) is not stable. Other Men will distance themselves from such a weak and inpredictable man. Even ignoring Israel (the wife), they will come and hunt you.

Well, as you can clearly see, that is not the case at all. Nobody is distancing itself from the US. Stop being delusional. You are the isolated one, not the US. Even China, as the world's next global power, decided to settle their differences with the US through negotiations.

I'm not contradicting myself, these are facts, Iran said they were short of funds, but the project continues. I'm complaining, not contradicting!
Ofcourse we have a lot of common interests, and ofcourse ZioWest hates connections and cooperation between BRICS and Global South.

Yes, you are. It's like I say you and I should partner up together because we want to build a house in my yard, but I say I don't have money to build anything at all. Makes no sense at all.

Russia is not a Pariah state, they don't want NATO on their borders, just like how US does not want Russian or Chinese forces in Mexico or Cuba.

Russia is a pariah state. Even most of Slavs dislike the country. It has been isolated from the world by building a huge buffer around it. Nearly all of its neighbors want to join NATO. Even Armenia abandoned it after they stabbed them in the back. The Chinese do not trust them. Only Ali Khamenei and his followers seem to love this country for some reason.

Russia is not Soviet Union and Putin is not Stalin, just like Germany is not Third Reich today and Al-Sudani of Iraq is not Saddam Hussein.

Yeah, he wish he could be though. He started a war in Ukraine, led to hundreds of thousands of death, millions displaced and the only thing he achieved was that 3 of his neighbors joined NATO. The very same reason that he said he had to start the war.

The famine was caused indirectly by many many different factors such as seasonal droughts, requisitioning and confiscation of foodstuffs by occupying armies, speculation, hoarding, war profiteering, and poor harvests., it was not a pre-set goal (like the holocaust), it was a consequences of many different factors, weak central government (qajars), invasion by 3 foreign armies, and many other factors, among them the global Spanish Flu which killed 20-50 million people in few years. The final death toll in Iran is still not clear.

The famine was caused by emptying our stock of food and wheat. Russians also have a very dark history when it comes to rape. They raped over a million German women after the fall of Berlin in WWII. They also committed atrocities in Northwestern Iran many times.

News flash: Todays Russia occupies not more than 1 % of former Iranian lands of Qajar era (the portion of Dagestan).
If you crave for the bigger portion of lost lands (Turkmenistan, Azerbayjan, Armenia, Georgia), Russia does not own or occupy them anymore as of today and the Tsars are no more, the Bolsheviks killed them.

And? Is that supposed to make us feel better about them? Explain how?

So instead of being mad at Russia, direct your "nationalist energy" towards bringing Armenia and Georgia to us and containing Baku, which should become part of Iran again if they cross red lines by inviting Israel to harm us.

Yeah, right. As if you could contain Baku with your awesome foreign policies that has isolated us from the world and has destroyed our air force. You cannot even contain sandal-wearing Taliban soldiers.

And I don't know why you don't get it that we tried more that 3 times to restart ties with USA (Khatami, Rouhani, Pezeshkian) by allowing them to invest trillions in Iran. I don't know in which other way we could make it more clear to them. Even the leader said I don't mind negotiations and trade. What more you want? to literally bend over?

No, you don't get it. I explained it to you clearly at the beginning. It's a package deal. You have to stop calling for the destruction of Israel if you want a meaningful relationship with the US. It's either that or go nuclear and build actual deterrence. But since Khamenei is too much of a **** to build nuclear weapons, then you have to stop messing with Israel. It's not our war to begin with.

That Russia and West is full of Zionist Oligarch is not a surprise, tell us something new. But in Russia they don't have free reign like in the west. Many Jewish-origin oligarchs who were politically independent or opposed Putin were neutralized through legal, financial, or political pressure, not direct assassination. If they had free hand in Russia as well, Russia woud sanction us (maximum pressure) and bomb us and kill our scientists and invite clown pahlavi to Moscow.

You don't need Jewish oligarchs in Russia when you have a "friend" like Putin. Putin single-handedly has betrayed Iran and acted against our interests more than all Jewish oligarchs in Russia ever would.
Why would Russia sanction us when you're bending over backwards for them? lol

That Russia has no common interests with Iran when it comes to Israel or as you mentioned Syria (where they partly had common interests), is already known, but we do have many common interests in other places such as Caspian, Caucasus, Central Asia and we are both members of formats/blocks such as SCO, BRICS and Iran works closely with Eurasian Union (observer status in Eurasian Economic Union). We do have both common interests in multi-polarism and new world order. We do have both common interests in rise of east and Asia.

We have no real common interests with Russia whatsoever. Russia is a useless leech that has leeched off us for far too long because of a particular person in power.
Every move Russia has made in the last 2 decades has had only one goal: To weaken Iran and undermine our influence in the Caucasus and the Middle East. They have thrown us under the bus far too many times just in the last 25 years alone.

Now you confuse my realistic, objective, pragmatic view as "sucking up to Russia", but you consider hating on Russia, a neighbour connected through Caspian Sea, and begging USA for ties and getting bombed by them, a direction which we should follow?

Your view is anything but realistic, objective or pragmatic. You guys do suck up to Russia no matter how many times Putin c*ckslaps you.
We have enough reasons to hate Russia. Not that it's one of our enemies throughout history, but it has stabbed us in the back too many times since 2003 alone.

This is what I only expect from gamblers and those gambling on man-child pahlavi, who married his daughter to an Israeli, to create a future Israeli king ruling over Iranians. But as Faramarz Dadras says, we have only 1 king and that's Burger-King, not loser and defeated slave Pahlavi.

Irrelevant rambling. Your opinion is the type of opinion I expect from idiots who support "no negotiations, no war", but eventually take it all up their bunghole, get humiliated in a 12-day battle when facing a teeny tiny country, and beg for negotiations for a few more months in power.

 

[Immortals]

If the status quo continues: Iran will either collapse like Syria or fade into disparity like Venezuela and post Persian Gulf War I Iraq.

I am not seeing any initiative by this country to turn their fortunes around. It’s like all the strategic chess masters are dead and we are left with amateurs.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Their delusions are too costly for the country, unfortunately.

he genuinely believes that because Khamenei's twitter account shared a graphic showing a circle of fire in the sky above Israel then this missile is some secret sky-opening fire-creating super weapon that was used against Israel

wtf ? how do you reason with people like this?

 

[Persian Gulf]

If the status quo continues: Iran will either collapse like Syria or fade into disparity like Venezuela and post Persian Gulf War I Iraq.

I am not seeing any initiative by this country to turn their fortunes around. It’s like all the strategic chess masters are dead and we are left with amateurs.

intelligence minister (Khatib) not even forced to resign after Israel built drone factories inside Iran and killed the entire IRGC-ASF C&C and our top scientists in 30 minutes. that about sums up how serious Iran is about the situation.

 

[ShapurII]

he genuinely believes that because Khamenei's twitter account shared a graphic showing a circle of fire in the sky above Israel then this missile is some secret sky-opening fire-creating super weapon that was used against Israel

wtf ? how do you reason with people like this?

I'm not angry that Israel and the US won the 12-day battle.
I understand, we are the weaker one. We had to fight to survive the war, then make some changes and adjust our internal and foreign policies, but mainly our internal policies.

What really pisses me off is that we have learned nothing from our past mistakes.
The same "super weapon" crap. I mean seriously, they bombed our nuclear facilities, killed +30 of our commanders in half an hour, killed 100 Iranians on average each day (even worse than Gaza), and people still think that Iran has some super weapon that doesn't want to use yet lol

It seems that the regime doesn't really understand the gravity of the situation. We need real deterrence. What are they going to do if these genocidal f*ckers use nuclear weapons on Iran?

Abolfazl Zohrevand says a lot of unproven stuff, but he alluded that they might've used tactical nukes on Fordow. If true, how can these people be so chill and pretend they have super duper weapons, instead of actually building nukes, or at least buying a few from North Korea?

 

[Shafagh]

I'm not angry that Israel and the US won the 12-day battle.
I understand, we are the weaker one. We had to fight to survive the war, then make some changes and adjust our internal and foreign policies, but mainly our internal policies.

What really pisses me off is that we have learned nothing from our past mistakes.
The same "super weapon" crap. I mean seriously, they bombed our nuclear facilities, killed +30 of our commanders in half an hour, killed 100 Iranians on average each day (even worse than Gaza), and people still think that Iran has some super weapon that doesn't want to use yet lol

It seems that the regime doesn't really understand the gravity of the situation. We need real deterrence. What are they going to do if these genocidal f*ckers use nuclear weapons on Iran?

Abolfazl Zohrevand says a lot of unproven stuff, but he alluded that they might've used tactical nukes on Fordow. If true, how can these people be so chill and pretend they have super duper weapons, instead of actually building nukes, or at least buying a few from North Korea?

Perhaps they don't care about the destruction of Iran. They see it as holy martyrdom.

 

[Bharatah]

I'm not angry that Israel and the US won the 12-day battle.

fake news from Zionist narrative.

 

[Bharatah]

what nonsense

try to post from more reliable sources.

I had already posted it before and it was true, now the US and Israel already know that all communication with the IAEA has TOTALLY been cut off:

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

But you have befriended a country that not only killed our children, but gassed our civilians to death. Do you know the name of that country?
Yeah, Iraq. Another one of our enemies that the IR loves and is feeding them cheap electricity while people in Iran have 4-hour electricity cuts. And they don't even pay us back for our electricity exports.

You must update your calendar, today it's 22-08-2025. Saddam was hanged on 30-12-2006. The last Tsar, Nicholas II, and his family were murdered by the Bolsheviks on the night of July 16–17, 1918.
Iraq is not our enemy, it's our neighbour, trade partner and has common interest with us in many areas. Our annual export to Iraq is not around 10 billion USD, during Saddam it was almost 0. US sanctions that makes transactions difficult or impossible can't be blamed on Iraqis or Iranians. What Iran exports to Iraq and for what price can't either be blamed on Iraqis.

Well, as you can clearly see, that is not the case at all. Nobody is distancing itself from the US. Stop being delusional. You are the isolated one, not the US. Even China, as the world's next global power, decided to settle their differences with the US through negotiations.

Then why does US threatens, for example India and China many others with sanctions of tarifs? why does US weaponizes economy?
The global landscape is witnessing a move towards multipolarity, with countries like China, Russia, and India, Iran, Brazil challenging the established unipolar U.S.-led order. Not even a child can deny this anymore.

Yes, you are. It's like I say you and I should partner up together because we want to build a house in my yard, but I say I don't have money to build anything at all. Makes no sense at all.

INSTC freight volume is increasing annually. For example, rail cargo moved along the corridor grew by ~19% in 2024 compared to 2023, with Russia–India trade surging significantly via the corridor. Crude oil exports from Russia to India via INSTC have increased sharply over recent years.
Funding and sanctions slowed the progress, but the the caravan moves on and the dogs (you know who they are) bark.

Russia is a pariah state. Even most of Slavs dislike the country. It has been isolated from the world by building a huge buffer around it. Nearly all of its neighbors want to join NATO. Even Armenia abandoned it after they stabbed them in the back. The Chinese do not trust them. Only Ali Khamenei and his followers seem to love this country for some reason.

No it's not a pariah state, Israel is. Not all slavs hate Russia, for example Serbia, Slovakia, Belarus.
Majority of world and major economical powers, military powers, all have decent ties with Russia, from China, to India, Iran, even many Arab countries and Africa.
USA and EU (who are slaves of USA and majority old/dying population) are not equal to "the world". Now slowly EU and USA are regretting their failed initiative, arresting ukrainians who blew up northstream 2 (which they wanted to blame on Russia) and slowly trying to open up negotiations.

Yeah, he wish he could be though. He started a war in Ukraine, led to hundreds of thousands of death, millions displaced and the only thing he achieved was that 3 of his neighbors joined NATO. The very same reason that he said he had to start the war.

See my reply above, he won the war in Ukraine, west lost (along with that billions USD wasted), these are the facts. The 3 old, low density populated neighbors form no threat for Russia.

The famine was caused by emptying our stock of food and wheat. Russians also have a very dark history when it comes to rape. They raped over a million German women after the fall of Berlin in WWII. They also committed atrocities in Northwestern Iran many times.

Soviet union (not only Russia) devestated fascist nazi germany and that was not something bad.
About dark history, Germans and Japanese were not nice either, nor were the British gentle. We can mention many others who were equaly bad or even worse

And? Is that supposed to make us feel better about them? Explain how?

No, but you should put things in perspective and move on. Old system disappeared (Tsarism, Soviet Union, Baath Party, fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Shah of Iran).

In the 1980s, the Soviet Union covertly supported Iraq in the Iran–Iraq War. The current treaty would make direct military support to Iran’s enemy formally prohibited.
But recently Russia and Iran signed a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty (January 2025) which includes provisions aimed at preventing each country from supporting the other's adversaries in conflicts.

Yeah, right. As if you could contain Baku with your awesome foreign policies that has isolated us from the world and has destroyed our air force. You cannot even contain sandal-wearing Taliban soldiers.

I'm not Islamic republic, actually I left the biggest critics against Islamic republic while their fanboys were active here and on Irandefence/military forum. Baku regime is just mob family trying to push above their weight, don't make it bigger than it is. If they want follow Georgia or Ukraine model, they will regret it soon or later.

No, you don't get it. I explained it to you clearly at the beginning. It's a package deal. You have to stop calling for the destruction of Israel if you want a meaningful relationship with the US. It's either that or go nuclear and build actual deterrence. But since Khamenei is too much of a **** to build nuclear weapons, then you have to stop messing with Israel. It's not our war to begin with.

I can agree on this, while you should not deny Iran reaching out to US multiple times. Islamic Republic has and had a big-mouth-policy (like general salami). While condemning the barbaric terrorist and genocidal policy of Israel, we could be military-neutral. But no need to have ties either with such criminal entity, same policy like Pakistan.

You don't need Jewish oligarchs in Russia when you have a "friend" like Putin. Putin single-handedly has betrayed Iran and acted against our interests more than all Jewish oligarchs in Russia ever would.
Why would Russia sanction us when you're bending over backwards for them? lol

So did China, India, Europe, Pakistan, Arabs etc. For each of them we could find reasons, from supporting direct attacks, sanctions, to not following up on contracts. They follow their own interests and sometimes it does feel like "betrayal".

But again I didnt see Chinese or Russians saying Iran should be bombed, should be sanctioned (maximum pressure) and "Israel does our dirty work", or lets cut the head of the snake and I will bring the war into Iran (what saudis said) and Iranian Islands are ours (UAE).

Now this Chinaphobia and Russophobia disease among some Iranians has a special strain and source (like corona which also had different strains).

The strain among Iranians was born in West and passed through an exiled big nosed lizard whose father was exiled from Iran in 1979 and who married his daughter to Israelis.

It has passed the point of honest criticism against China and Russia and entered the realm of hate, paranoia and conspiracy theories

We have no real common interests with Russia whatsoever. Russia is a useless leech that has leeched off us for far too long because of a particular person in power.
Every move Russia has made in the last 2 decades has had only one goal: To weaken Iran and undermine our influence in the Caucasus and the Middle East. They have thrown us under the bus far too many times just in the last 25 years alone.

That's simply not true. Russia is a neighbour and a useful, pragmatic partner for Iran but not a fully ideological (logic!) or unconditional ally. Too many factors and common interests simply deny Russia being enemy or leech or any of that sort of terms to be used against Russia.

Your view is anything but realistic, objective or pragmatic. You guys do suck up to Russia no matter how many times Putin c*ckslaps you.
We have enough reasons to hate Russia. Not that it's one of our enemies throughout history, but it has stabbed us in the back too many times since 2003 alone.

Very childish comment, expecting it only from defeated pahlavists/royalists who carry the western strain of the Russophobia, sinophobia virus, which infects mostly brains of uneducated, old exiles whose kids forgot persian language. Even some non-royalist could be infected by the weaker younger strain of this virus.

The reality is that multipolarism, global south and rise of east and Asia can't be stopped.

Irrelevant rambling. Your opinion is the type of opinion I expect from idiots who support "no negotiations, no war", but eventually take it all up their bunghole, get humiliated in a 12-day battle when facing a teeny tiny country, and beg for negotiations for a few more months in power.

It's you who is rambling with almost 0 knowledge about what's happening in the world, while Iranian shaheds did their job in Ukraine and while NATO-led proxy Israel could not completely finish their dirty goal (Libyanization of Iran).

Now that does not deny so much incompetence from IRI and in a healthy system, heads should roll. If not their own heads will roll again in future NATO-Israeli attack and the fools will pay by blood again.

My position here is clear, we should have nuclear weapons and ICBMs, so maybe you confused me with other member here?

 

[ShapurII]

You must update your calendar, today it's 22-08-2025. Saddam was hanged on 30-12-2006. The last Tsar, Nicholas II, and his family were murdered by the Bolsheviks on the night of July 16–17, 1918.
Iraq is not our enemy, it's our neighbour, trade partner and has common interest with us in many areas. Our annual export to Iraq is not around 10 billion USD, during Saddam it was almost 0. US sanctions that makes transactions difficult or impossible can't be blamed on Iraqis or Iranians. What Iran exports to Iraq and for what price can't either be blamed on Iraqis.

Yeah, but the Russians haven't updated their calendars. They still teach their people that the Iranians barbarically murdered Aleksandr Griboyedov. The Iraqis still hate Iran, excluding a group of Shiites who welcome Iranians as pilgrims during Ashura and Arbaeen.
Our national export to Iraq is not paid back. Your obsession with countries that violate their agreements with us is shameful.

Then why does US threatens, for example India and China many others with sanctions of tarifs? why does US weaponizes economy?
The global landscape is witnessing a move towards multipolarity, with countries like China, Russia, and India, Iran, Brazil challenging the established unipolar U.S.-led order. Not even a child can deny this anymore.

Why do these countries go and negotiate with them?
The US is a global bully, but far from isolated. Iran, on the other hand, is isolated. Even China and Russia are reluctant to trade with Iran. Every one of your so-called partners are reluctant to deal with you. Not even a retard would deny this.
Average GDP growth of the US since 1945 has been 3.2%. That's insane. The US remains a super power, relevant to basically any decision that is made in the world. Your tovarisch Putin polished Trump's balls just a few days ago.

INSTC freight volume is increasing annually. For example, rail cargo moved along the corridor grew by ~19% in 2024 compared to 2023, with Russia–India trade surging significantly via the corridor. Crude oil exports from Russia to India via INSTC have increased sharply over recent years.
Funding and sanctions slowed the progress, but the the caravan moves on and the dogs (you know who they are) bark.

19% growth of a negligible number is still negligible. Kiss INSTC goodbye with the situation that we have in our northwestern border. And I still see no solution to this situation. Do you have any solution within Iran's current means?

No it's not a pariah state, Israel is. Not all slavs hate Russia, for example Serbia, Slovakia, Belarus.
Majority of world and major economical powers, military powers, all have decent ties with Russia, from China, to India, Iran, even many Arab countries and Africa.
USA and EU (who are slaves of USA and majority old/dying population) are not equal to "the world". Now slowly EU and USA are regretting their failed initiative, arresting ukrainians who blew up northstream 2 (which they wanted to blame on Russia) and slowly trying to open up negotiations.

Yeah, you live in a parallel universe where Israel has been banned from the Olympics, and Russia has been crowned the champion lol Israel has been banned from international events, and Russia is welcomed with open arms.
Whether you like it or not, Israel, be the genocidal piece of sh*t that it is, is normalizing her relations with nearly every country in the Middle East except for Iran. Russia, on the other hand, cannot even use the airspace of its neighboring countries. A true pariah state.

See my reply above, he won the war in Ukraine, west lost (along with that billions USD wasted), these are the facts. The 3 old, low density populated neighbors form no threat for Russia.

He won nothing. He fell into a trap that they had prepared for him and provoked him into falling into it. He didn't want NATO in Ukraine, now he has to accept US troops (the only country in NATO that matters) in Ukraine and three of her neighbors joined NATO. Ukrainians now hate Russians to the core. Everything is worse for Russia than before the war.

Soviet union (not only Russia) devestated fascist nazi germany and that was not something bad.
About dark history, Germans and Japanese were not nice either, nor were the British gentle. We can mention many others who were equaly bad or even worse

Yeah, only if you think mass rape is not something bad. It's funny how you Russophiles try to whitewash the history of one of the world's most brutal countries that has killed millions of Iranians throughout history, and has violated our sovereignty many times.

No, but you should put things in perspective and move on. Old system disappeared (Tsarism, Soviet Union, Baath Party, fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Shah of Iran).

You guys need to learn the importance of history. Countries and cultures do not appear out of thin air. You think Russia has changed, but there is no evidence to show that Russia has changed and can be trusted now.

In the 1980s, the Soviet Union covertly supported Iraq in the Iran–Iraq War. The current treaty would make direct military support to Iran’s enemy formally prohibited.
But recently Russia and Iran signed a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty (January 2025) which includes provisions aimed at preventing each country from supporting the other's adversaries in conflicts.

Yeah, a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty that Russia failed to uphold. Not only it didn't uphold, and did not deliver Sukhoi-35s to Iran, or S-400s, but it even supported the aggressor by saying "they're almost a Russian speaking country". Ridiculous.

I'm not Islamic republic, actually I left the biggest critics against Islamic republic while their fanboys were active here and on Irandefence/military forum. Baku regime is just mob family trying to push above their weight, don't make it bigger than it is. If they want follow Georgia or Ukraine model, they will regret it soon or later.

I don't remember you being among the biggest critics of the Islamic Republic.
You keep saying these things, but at the end of the day, Iran always remains passive and we're the ones who will regret our passiveness later.

I can agree on this, while you should not deny Iran reaching out to US multiple times. Islamic Republic has and had a big-mouth-policy (like general salami). While condemning the barbaric terrorist and genocidal policy of Israel, we could be military-neutral. But no need to have ties either with such criminal entity, same policy like Pakistan.

That's what I said from the beginning. We just need to mind our own business. We're not some sort of super heroes that have to fight for justice at our own expense. We just need to stop being the flag-bearer of destroying Israel and focus on things that matter to us.

So did China, India, Europe, Pakistan, Arabs etc. For each of them we could find reasons, from supporting direct attacks, sanctions, to not following up on contracts. They follow their own interests and sometimes it does feel like "betrayal".

We have isolated ourselves over things that do not serve our national interests. If we had something to show off for all these years of isolation, it would've been different. But when you look at the last 5-8 years, we have had consecutive defeats. You can't do the same thing and expect a different result.

But again I didnt see Chinese or Russians saying Iran should be bombed, should be sanctioned (maximum pressure) and "Israel does our dirty work", or lets cut the head of the snake and I will bring the war into Iran (what saudis said) and Iranian Islands are ours (UAE).

Because we are moving along the lines that they agree with.
However, both Russia and China call on Iran to resolve our territorial disputes with the UAE "diplomatically". In fact, they did it long before the Europeans. The Europeans started to openly challenge Iran after Iran mindlessly dragged itself into the Ukraine war, thanks to Khamenei.

Now this Chinaphobia and Russophobia disease among some Iranians has a special strain and source (like corona which also had different strains).

The strain among Iranians was born in West and passed through an exiled big nosed lizard whose father was exiled from Iran in 1979 and who married his daughter to Israelis.

I wouldn't expect a different answer from someone who claims history is of no relevance to today. lol Russophobia has been there for at least 3 centuries. And for very good reasons though. But of course, you wouldn't know.

It has passed the point of honest criticism against China and Russia and entered the realm of hate, paranoia and conspiracy theories

The honest criticism against Russia is that they should go f*ck themselves. They're full of it.

That's simply not true. Russia is a neighbour and a useful, pragmatic partner for Iran but not a fully ideological (logic!) or unconditional ally. Too many factors and common interests simply deny Russia being enemy or leech or any of that sort of terms to be used against Russia.

They're as useless as useless gets. They failed to deliver S-300s, they failed to deliver Sukhoi-35s. They abandoned Shafagh project for no reason. They didn't deliver all the RD-33 engines. They encouraged Assad to leave Syria when we needed Syria the most. They haven't sold Iran a single civilian aircraft since US sanctioned our aviation industry. They passed 4 rounds of UNSC sanctions on Iran. They banned Iranian students from studying nuclear science and engineering in Russia. They failed to meet the schedule for the first reactor at Bushehr, they're behind schedule for both reactor II and III as of now. Their TOR-M1 ended up shooting down a civilian passenger that caused one of the largest riots in Iran. They emptied our stock of Shahed-131 and Shahed-136 drones. Leech is to put it mildly.

Very childish comment, expecting it only from defeated pahlavists/royalists who carry the western strain of the Russophobia, sinophobia virus, which infects mostly brains of uneducated, old exiles whose kids forgot persian language. Even some non-royalist could be infected by the weaker younger strain of this virus.

It doesn't even get remotely close to your irrelevant, childish comments which show great ignorance about history and strategy. A country that has stabbed Iran in the back more than any other country in the recent history is a great ally according to you lol You just need to look at what Russia has done in the 21st century to see how reliable they are.
A country that low-key waited for Israel to defeat Iran is your ally. What an ally lol
Only followers of a KGB agent like Khamenei would talk like this.

The reality is that multipolarism, global south and rise of east and Asia can't be stopped.

The reality is you're delusional. And the country is paying the price of stupid analysis by delusional people like you. Same people that talked about the "cold winter" of Europe when the Ukraine war started.
You guys think the rise of the East is to counter the Western influence. Nobody else agrees with you. China is not willing to challenge the US. Nor is Russia. The collective East is not going to fight with the collective West for the IR to have a break.

It's you who is rambling with almost 0 knowledge about what's happening in the world, while Iranian shaheds did their job in Ukraine and while NATO-led proxy Israel could not completely finish the dirty work (Libyanization of Iran).

If I have 0 knowledge about what's happening in the world, your knowledge should be evaluated as negative since nearly everything you say is like 180 degrees different from the truth that is happening now. The truth unfolds right in front of you, and you guys try to interpret it exactly in the opposite way of how it is happening.

You talk about Libya. Maybe you should also talk about the fate of Saddam that trusted the Russians.

My position here is clear, we should have nuclear weapons and ICBMs, so maybe you confused me with other member here?

Did I say you were against nuclear weapons or ICBMs?
Unfortunately, the regime you are feverishly supporting their policies has refused to build ICBMs and nuclear weapons for reasons that nobody can understand. We are an advanced country. We have good engineers and scientists. Yet, we do not have ICBMs and nuclear weapons.

It's a fair question to ask why? We have already paid the price by being under sanctions for 22 years. 22 years of sanctions, a deadly 12-day attack on Iran and we do not have nuclear weapons. You guys never explain why this is the case. We have isolated ourselves, have endured and suffered all the consequences of a country like North Korea, but cannot even guarantee our own existence and territorial integrity in case of the increasing and emerging threats that have engulfed us.

 

[ToddE]

Expand on this please, Kim il-Sung was a better leaders than Iran has had in centuries, certainly better than khamenei.

Post 2010s Khamenei is the worst Iranian leader since late Qajars. They atleast had the shame to leave the throne which IRI lacks. Khamenei got lucky that he had a bunch of battle hardened ground soldiers who later turned into effective Generals. They gifted him entire region on a platter stretching from Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon. IRI was at peak in early 2010s post Obama diplomacy era. That was the time Iran should have totally focused on internal socio-economic-military strength to guard these buffer zones that IRGC created for Khamenei led Iran. Instead IRI went into a suicidal mode by not modernising its military or economic infrastructure, not handling its rapidly changing society, constantly bickering with Israel and US over matters that Iran had ZERO stake in. World only understands one language and thats called power. Power of $$$ and military. IRI had both but they instead kept on fingering Israel, US and their local Persian gulf poodles so bunch of Generals, Scientists, figures were taken out, half a trillion USD lost.

Best leader Iran had in last century was Reza Khan Mirpanj, had he not been there the entire North West would have been carved out of Iran. He took over a invaded, famine ridden demoralised state. In few years it was a powerhouse that Nazis and Allies both were eyeing in their camp. Later to Khomeini's credit he kicked USSR+EU+Arab League powered Saddam's ass and saved Iranian land from occupation. Before these the best defacto ruler of Iran was Crown Prince Abbas Mirza Qajar who kept Russia, UK and Ottomans out of Iran simultaneously. Post Khamenei IRI will be worst because internal political conflicts will show up.

Also I don't understand how Kim Jong-Un is more "nationalist" than his predecessors.

Under KJU DPRK has established strategic military outreach which his papa never had an eye for. KJU's DPRK can destroy Japan, South Korea and can even take on Pacific US military Infrastructure. He is also far less ideological and more rational than his stupid dad. Expert on DPRK like Ken Gause did a piece on him how he is transforming DPRK from a hermit kingdom to a less hermit but modern nation with an eye for global strategic games. This guy is arming Russia yet met Trump, could we expect that from his father? Its still poor as hell nation but there is a chance he might capitalise the slow fall of US power in 2030s by making peace with regional foes and focusing on economic development. He is young, has Chinese and Russian backing and has so far shown no sign of irrationality.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

The Zios seem to be hyping something up. They went from regime change in Iran to "Iran has the intention and capability to launch a preemptive attack". What happened to their claim of overthrowing the Iranian govt? They already started running to their Western daddies.