Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

mangekyo said:
I never said China is the reason Iran is underdeveloped. Don’t put words in my mouth. I was discussing with another member about a hypothetical where Iran somehow becomes a low-tech manufacturer for China, and I pointed out how stupid that is given China’s history with its allies and its obedience to US sanctions. In that kind of doomsday scenario, I said it’s simply better to choose the West since their track record of actually building up countries is stronger. Then the other guy twisted it into some nonsense about racism.

And no, Japan wouldn’t have magically re-emerged on its own after WWII—it was flattened. US protection, capital, and market access were decisive. Just look at North vs. South Korea if you think “culture alone” explains it. Same people, same resources—one side backed by China is still starving, the other backed by the US is a global powerhouse. Iran’s economy before and after switching from West to East is another clear example. The list goes on.
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@tower9 I cannot stand such naivety. I am out.
 
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If cooperation with the IAEA was banned, why is Araghchi meeting with Grossi, who openly acted as a foreign agent? If the majlis wants to vote to leave the NPT, why was floor discussion blocked? And if khamenei is supposedly against negotiations and surrender, why does he not lift a finger other than tweeting?
 

Hamas delegation survives Israeli assassination attempt in Qatar​


Israeli airstrikes hit Doha, targeting Hamas negotiators as the group reaffirms its commitment to a ceasefire and prisoner exchange deal.
 
FUB said:
China is the future . We had a discussion a month ago you and I.
Here are the receipts. Everything is fake.

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They have been saying that since late 90s.
China is not the future because it lacks energy resources like the US and Canada, it lacks strategic allies, it lacks cultural influence to a level comparable to Europeans and the West will contain it eventually. The collective West is becoming more and more aggressive. Expect fascism to return.

China has no friends except a fat dude with a bad haircut that looks like a high-school bully. The US has Europe and the majority of Christian countries and Muslim countries. Future my ass.
 
2 American and British spy plane were flying around Qatar prior to Israeli attack on Doha.

Zionist rabid dog is biting everyone around. Hope its a wake up call for Arabs.

Moreover Qatari air defense systems were defused by American operators. When will Arabs learn their lessons?
 
muhammed45 said:
Zionist rabid dog is biting everyone around. Hope its a wake up call for Arabs.
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The Qataris knew it was going to happen. They sold out Hamas.

muhammed45 said:
Moreover Qatari air defense systems were defused by American operators. When will Arabs learn their lessons?
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When Iranians finally learn their lessons.
 
muhammed45 said:
2 American and British spy plane were flying around Qatar prior to Israeli attack on Doha.

Zionist rabid dog is biting everyone around. Hope its a wake up call for Arabs.

Moreover Qatari air defense systems were defused by American operators. When will Arabs learn their lessons?
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We need new custodians of the holy sites....
 
muhammed45 said:
Why your words are exactly same as what Zionist sources say?
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Because you are delusional and the truth sounds Zionist to you.

If you think Qatar did not know about this attack beforehand, then I have a bridge to sell you.
If you think Arabs will somehow suddenly wake up and turn anti-Israel, well, I can feel nothing but pity for you. You have a very weird view of the world.
 
ShapurII said:
Because you are delusional and the truth sounds Zionist to you.

If you think Qatar did not know about this attack beforehand, then I have a bridge to sell you.
If you think Arabs will somehow suddenly wake up and turn anti-Israel, well, I can feel nothing but pity for you. You have a very weird view of the world.
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No truth is not Zionist words.

You are repeating exactly their words.
 
muhammed45 said:
No truth is not Zionist words.

You are repeating exactly their words.
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Well, go ahead and criticize what I said.

Do you think Qatar did not know about this attack?
Do you think this attack will be a wake up call for Arabs?
Do you think Arabs will declare a war on Israel now?
Do you think Qatar will refuse to help Israel/US in the next war on Iran?
 
mangekyo said:
In that kind of doomsday scenario, I said it’s simply better to choose the West since their track record of actually building up countries is stronger. Then the other guy twisted it into some nonsense about racism.
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But the main issue is this is not even a option the west is entertaining. Iraq and Afghanistan got rid of the west's taste for nation building, now they are only into nation destroying. SK, Japan, Europe were rebuilt in the context of an actively expanding USSR led bloc that threatened US hegemony. There is no need for a indebted US to dump investment into rebuilding Iran, there is no benefit to them.
Even if you don't like China, your other options are to keep begging for surrender and keep getting bombed or keep the status quo. Both are bad options in comparison.
 
ShapurII said:
Do you think Qatar did not know about this attack?
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No they didn't know Israel was going to attack their capital. But USA and UK knew it and they helped Israel to dodge Qatari Patriots and THAAD.

ShapurII said:
Do you think this attack will be a wake up call for
ShapurII said:
Do you think Arabs will declare a war on Israel now?
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For Arab Muslims, yes. For Arab kinglet no.

ShapurII said:
Do you think Arabs will declare a war on Israel now?
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No they won't, because they can't. Abraham accords has chained Arabs' hands.

ShapurII said:
Do you think Qatar will refuse to help Israel/US in the next war on Iran?
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Qatar never helped Israel and USA in their attack on Iran.

Iran hit US base in Qatar not Qatar itself.
 
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