Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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No talks, No bomb, No war

Still the same useless strategy that Iran wants to follow
 
TP 4 Iran Quds 2026 said:
What is the difference between enriching uranium to high levels and testing a nuke, which we have the technology since 2000's? We already have deterrence if we do that and don’t halt it. Testing a bomb, however, will turn the world against us

" We didn't test nukes because we don't want to USE THEM but we are one of those ten countries in the world which have nuclear deterrence ‼️ "

This is what leader is saying

He is wiser than to make the whole world turn against us, Or, even worse, to launch a military campaign with 30+ countries against us
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What enrichment?

There is no enrichment ongoing in Iran (unless at a small secret black site). So iran has zero enrichment deterrence right now. That’s why the West wants Iran to get rid of its enriched stockpile that is supposedly buried under a mountain.

Once that HEU stockpile is gone then Iran has zero leverage in any future talks and loses any threshold state status.
 
Immortals said:
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No talks, No bomb, No war

Still the same useless strategy that Iran wants to follow
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Then some people here claim the problem is Pezeshkian and not Khamenei himself.
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
Should he say we will create a nuclear bomb on date x? what is your suggestion?
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I don't see why not.
They bombed the shit out of our nuclear industry.
What else do you think would be an appropriate response to that?

My suggestion is to either build the bomb or surrender. I have reiterated it many times.
Without nuclear deterrence, we do not have the means to stand against the US. And the US will not leave us alone now that they know for a fact that they can do whatever they want to us without consequences.

Uranium enrichment without building the bomb is treason. It's the highest form of treason possible. Only someone who is eager to destroy the Iranian nation would pursue this policy.
 
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Silly strategy…. Should keep talking until the new year, after that the window for attack goes down as USA has some internal politics to do.

Trita Parsi Has done a number of videos on this..​


He really is a clown ….
 
ShapurII said:
I don't see why not.
They bombed the shit out of our nuclear industry.
What else do you think would be an appropriate response to that?

My suggestion is to either build the bomb or surrender. I have reiterated it many times.
Without nuclear deterrence, we do not have the means to stand against the US. And the US will not leave us alone now that they know for a fact that they can do whatever they want to us without consequences.

Uranium enrichment without building the bomb is treason. It's the highest form of treason possible. Only someone who is eager to destroy the Iranian nation would pursue this policy.
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Appropriate response is to keep their eternal big mouth shut, not give Netanyahu and westerners the "see we told you they were building it" moment, which they will use to bomb Iran again and all together.

Meanwhile Iran should work on non-nuclear part of defence, repair any damages to military infrastructure and let the geopolitical circumstances play out because it's working more in advantage of Iran than against.

West lost its reputation, Israel is considered a genocidal entity and still in war, midterm elections are approaching in USA, Russia is starting a hybrid war against EU and the war between Russia and West continues, draining west from resources which they could use against Iran, and multi-polarism is growing. West is divided, any day that passes we can expect self-damaging blunders from trump.

Staying inside NPT or stepping out has its own risks, but
Iran should start a secret program and only announce it when there are enough bombs, at least 10-20, or buy nukes from north korea by paying billions. Nuclear weapons are a must for survival.
 
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while he tweets this Iran's FM is in NY meeting with the E3 and IAEA

he is lying!
 
TP 4 Iran Quds 2026 said:
What is the difference between enriching uranium to high levels and testing a nuke, which we have the technology since 2000's? We already have deterrence if we do that and don’t halt it. Testing a bomb, however, will turn the world against us

" We didn't test nukes because we don't want to USE THEM but we are one of those ten countries in the world which have nuclear deterrence ‼️ "

This is what leader is saying

He is wiser than to make the whole world turn against us, Or, even worse, to launch a military campaign with 30+ countries against us
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You want to claim we have nuclear deterrence when we possess no deliverable bombs? Even if you have functional 90% enrichment, assembling a deliverable warhead is not instant. Once you go for a nuke, they have weeks to nuke your cities and bomb without worry while you're hiding underground trying to put together something deliverable.
You people are destroying our country.
Kyussis said:
If Iran were to have Nuclear weapons ,it would mean that the IAF can still bomb Iran but if Centcom detects an Iranian missile barrage in retaliation, Israel can just assume its a nuclear strike and respond with their Nuclear armed Jericho 2/3 missiles.
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If this was true the Pakistan-India conflict would have gone nuclear. And if you don't want an Iranian nuke, you should be against Iran setting its national doctrine as resistance against two nuclear armed nations. Even if somehow you manage to beat both militarily, you expect them to just surrender and not resort to nukes first? If you have no intention of building nuclear weapons you do not pick fights with nuclear powers, they are inherently unwinnable.
 
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while he tweets this Iran's FM is in NY meeting with the E3 and IAEA

he is lying!
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almost simultaneously
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
Appropriate response is to keep their eternal big mouth shut, not give Netanyahu and westerners the "see we told you they were building it" moment, which they will use to bomb Iran again and all together.
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Too late for that. Too late to play nice now. They had to keep their mouth shut when they chanted "Death to America", "Death to Israel". Now that push has come to shove, playing nice only sends a signal of weakness. Trump does not respond well to signals of weakness. He has the predator mentality. He only respects strength, not weakness or diplomacy.

shapurzolaktaf said:
Meanwhile Iran should work on non-nuclear part of defence, repair any damages to military infrastructure and let the geopolitical circumstances play out because it's working more in advantage of Iran than against.
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Too late for that as well. Iran is missing the most critical component of a non-nuclear country: air force. We need at least 5 years, in the most optimistic scenario, to be able to deter Israel from launching new wars on us, and that's very optimistic, even borderline foolish, because the West will not allow that.

shapurzolaktaf said:
West lost its reputation, Israel is considered a genocidal entity and still in war, midterm elections are approaching in USA, Russia is starting a hybrid war against EU and the war between Russia and West continues, draining west from resources which they could use against Iran, and multi-polarism is growing. West is divided, any day that passes we can expect self-damaging blunders from trump.
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Temporarily. The West control the narrative through the mainstream media and people have a short memory, unfortunately. This is not the first time that Israel commits acts of ethnic cleansing or genocide.
They're already trying to stop the damage by proposing a Palestinian state. This way they will tell the world that they supported Palestinian people. We all know who Mahmood Abbas is and what he stands for.

shapurzolaktaf said:
Staying inside NPT or stepping out has its own risks, but
Iran should start a secret program and only announce it when there are enough bombs, at least 10-20, or buy nukes from north korea by paying billions. Nuclear weapons are a must for survival.
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I totally agree with that, but you have to understand that these people are fools.
Do you remember they talked about nuclear threshold? What does nuclear threshold mean when you cannot produce or obtain nukes 3 months after the war?
These idiots do not even know what nuclear threshold means.

Our best chance for now is to buy fissile material and possibly blueprints from North Korea. And it's better to be done now because as soon as snapback comes into effect and countries start to inspect our cargos by a UNSC excuse, it will be harder to import contraband materials for clandestine activities.
 
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