Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Liquidator said:
Iran is free.

Test some ICBMs and a nuke and be done with it.
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USA will invade them, it has been made clear that Iran will never be allowed nuclear weapons. I would go for chemical/biological or dirty bombs, only to defend Iran when faced with existence threat.
 
ShapurII said:
"You" refers to people with your line of thinking.

Unfortunately, the English language does not differentiate between you (singular) and you (plural). My point is that you guys underestimated the dangerous situation that we were in and continue to underestimate the severity of the danger we are facing now.
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From a military point of view, Iran is under imminent threat. Noone has info if Iran has rebuilt its missile capabilites, developed/bought launchers, missile factories, AD systems etc.
 
Dariush-e Bozorg said:
You just want to stifle any voice against the IR. Thats not how a free forum works.

Do you actually want sane and free discussion here or just people praising Khameneis aftabeh 24-7?
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Online Iranians must accept some level of criticism towards their government or military, people actually have some very good suggestions. The only big no is a planned attack/propaganda which i am sure @Persian Gulf will easily be able to tackle.
 
ShapurII said:
That's exactly my thoughts.
Our air force was nowhere to be seen when Israel attacked us.
I'm afraid the same will happen to our navy and ground forces if the US launches a ground invasion. Maybe some loyal Basij or IRGC forces would fight back, but how many people will choose to fight for a lost cause when they see their leaders do not want to fight back at all?

The Ayatollahs have shown no spine in the last 3 months. They accepted every type of humiliation that the West threw at us and are still doing the same. This is very demoralizing.
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Iran will fight back no doubt, but Usa with its sorties will destroy airforce. Navy, tanks within a few weeks. It will end up like an Iraqi style of war but more devastating for Usa. No invasion will take place, Usa/zionists will slowly grind Iran down, dismantle it's military capabilities, destroying economy, they are hoping some internal fight takes place.
 
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They are retiring those Patriots. So, Ukraine will take whatever it can get from wherever.
 
mangekyo said:
They hit and destroyed whatever they wanted last time. What are they going to destroy this time?
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They will go after all ballistic and cruise missile facilities/factories/launchers, will destroy all AD systems, then go after military bases, air bases, tanks, planes, ports, finally economy interests. All until the regime falls and someone like Jolani or Iranian opposition comes to power.
 
PakAl said:
They will go after all ballistic and cruise missile facilities/factories/launchers, will destroy all AD systems, then go after military bases, air bases, tanks, planes, ports, finally economy interests. All until the regime falls and someone like Jolani or Iranian opposition comes to power.
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Their goal is total regime collapse and partition of Iran into 12 micro states/tribes with pipelines of 100% free oil and gas to Israel and Europe, not regime change
 
PakAl said:
Iran has no choice but to submit, the whole western world is after them and the zionist and Muslim zionists have a sword on Iranian neck. Iranian leadership must be realising all those big anti Usa and Zionist statements are finally hurting them, the economy is in shambles, airforce non existence, navy non existence, missile force is decent but failed to protect Iran during 12 days war and another war is around the corner. Iran as someone suggested is buying time but the western world also knows this, slowly they are tightening the noose.

The positive for Iran is China Russia have used some diplomatic pressure to defend Iran, Pakistan for some reason was being aggressive, so they have some support in this part of the world and have those who don't want Iran to be destroyed, the economic interests are another advantage. If only Iran is willing to tone down their aggressive stance to a diplomatic one, continue to work with international players on nuclear energy, then slowly win Chinese Russian support to remove sanctions, build a good military force to defend themselves. I can't see any other way out for Iran.
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Well, I don't want to stick up for this sorry ass lot, but if you think about it, by leaving the NPT we will be playing into the Zionist narrative....they want to tell the world look at Iran, what are they trying to hide....etc. We can do whatever we need whilst staying in the agreement. No need to give these bastards any more ammo.
 
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wow @ShapurII
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I wonder, is it really that difficult to have drones with infrared scanning to detect living beings and movements near sensitive areas? Most of these drones and ATGMs are fired from short ranges by Mossad agents.

Is it that hard to employ tens of drones with thermal imaging to cover an area of 200 km2 or something?
 
Immortals said:
BRICS countries will fold like a house of cards if U.S. pressures them. China and Russia might be able to weather the wrath of America, but Brazil and India no chance in hell, they are too integrated with the West.



You think they did that without US knowledge? India already has been asking US for permission.


Russia doesn’t import Iranian oil. And China imports from many sources. Iran cannot survive on Chinese oil purchases alone.
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Why do we deal with India at all.

They are a liability.
 
PakAl said:
USA will invade them, it has been made clear that Iran will never be allowed nuclear weapons. I would go for chemical/biological or dirty bombs, only to defend Iran when faced with existence threat.
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Haven't you read the news? It seems USA will be more likely to have to defend against Russian nuclear attacks soon... The Ukraine front has been heating up recently and Russia has threatened to use Nukes...

There may be no USA or European capitals anymore for Iran to have to seek "approval" for developing nuclear weapons from......
 
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