Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

Iran is free.

Test some ICBMs and a nuke and be done with it.

Hmmm.....

You know what Iran actually needs? To reactivate and energize its regional Shia militias!!

Look at it- Obama needed JCPOA because US and NATO couldn't contain the Shia militias that were potent and active in the middle east, and it seems Iran hushed those militants to give space for negotiations with the west, meanwhile those Shia militias were an effective pressure on western forces In the ME, and israel most likely won't have attacked Iran if US knew the regional Shia militias beholden to Iran were active and willing to attack and battle US soldiers in the region.
Iran knew the west would attack it without its militias, and thats partly why it built them up in the 1st place.
Iran has to go back to its 90s to early 2010s MO in the region. Without the Shia militias on standby to pressure western troops, that job has now passed back to the IRGC and Artesh.

 

[kastor ville]

Sure, CA is a powerhouse. If it were an independent sovereign state, it would've been the world's 7th largest economy. CA is a powerhouse, but hated by the most Americans at the same time. It's been a blue state for far too long, its policies are extremely leaning towards the left all the time.

Gavin is just saying those things about California as those things are his achievements. He didn't create the Silicon Valley, which is where most of these Fortune 500 companies come from. And besides all this, Gavin Newsom is still pro Israel, right? So, how's that a good thing for us Iranians?

I'll leave you with another one of my idioms.....(what's more Persian than that):
You're "missing the cheese for the holes"
CA is an admired state......they're envied by most other states, they have great weather, sun and surf, and mountains.....money, chicks and glamour. Of course the Rednecks in Alabama hate them..lol. But, Gavin Newsome will decimate the Repubs in a debate. Not only that, he has some great ideas. I think the US economy will go tits up by the 2nd quarter of 2026, believe me, I hope I'm wrong, I have a lot of money in the stock market. I've already cashed out 30% of my investments, I'll keep that cash on the sideline, it helps me sleep better at night.

 

[925boy]

Iran to join the Abraham Accords: Trump

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Trump here is implying that a succesful regime change operation will take place against Iran soon.

 

[OldTwilight]

It is now trending on all primary news feeds, including Reuters. I still wouldn't trust these creatures. We hope to see revenge for over one thousand Iranian civilians murdered.

Putin: Israel asked us to convey calming messages to Iran

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Putin: Israel asked us to convey calming messages to Iran​

Where is Mohsen Reyhani?
I guess the other 300+ missiles did not fall in open fields after all.

That tiny little country.

I fear Trump and Netanyahou are planning another attack , Putting is part of the cast.

 

[Hack-Hook]

“Who gave the reason to eu for snapback?”
Javad Zari. Why ? Because he allowed it to be part of JCPOA to begin with and lied about.

“What was the benefit of it right now ?”
If you mean that he Oligarchy/ Zarif clan, I say to keep psychological pressure on Iranian people to extract more concessions from them.

I broke down verse by verse ,chapter by chapter ,exactly who causes inflation and currency devaluation in Iran.

Why is there no inflation in Russia? They have even more sanctions because Putin won’t allow the same treachery that’s going on in Iran to be played out in Russia with funny money business.
Arrest those people, and confiscate their assets ,and 50% of the cost of living problem is solved.

wrong, the correct answer Parliament by it law that make government step back from jcpoa.


By they way if who benefit from sanction , don't look farther, look who were dancing in parliament that day

 

[OldTwilight]

I remember you from the old PDF.....you were a true believer, was there a single event that made you say enough is enough? Or was it accumulation over time? The reason I'm asking you is because, these guys fked up bad to lose people like you........I've been saying that the regime can survive but it needs to reform itself. And that change has to come from inside...Seems like reform only happens when they're in danger of losing a large swath of the population.....Masha's death was a fork in the road, and the idiots took the wrong fork, but now all of a sudden they changed the rules and say hijab is not mandatory anymore. This is a bit late, I think the mechanism of change/reform is broken. If we get free elections, I mean free of the bullshit Guardian council meddling and things of that nature.....the SL anointing people..etc.

the regime continue nuclear program without balls to produce nukes ... we paid more than any nation for nukes but we didn't get any ....

we already become laughing subject of future generations which won't understand why we stepped in most harmful possible path ...

They won't understand it because the decisions came from bunch of curroupted insane minds

 

[Hack-Hook]

You don’t think Hijab is part of our Faith ?

Even if it’s not ( for arguments sake ) mark my words, this is a huge win for the enemies of GOD in their struggle against Iranian nation. IRI’s first & foremost job is to guard the values & social fabric of Iranian nation. Borders can be shrunk & expanded but social cohesion & value system must be guarded first & foremost.




Sanity !!!!

Especially when you know what the enemy has in store for you.



Pakistan at its heart is a far more conservative society than Iran is. Whatever geopolitical achievements have been achieved by Pakistan are due to its resilient & patient nature, imbued by Islamic culture. Pakistanis & Afghanis are by & large Iranian peoples by race, yet us Pakistanis & Afghans are far more content & confident in our skin than Iranians are. You only have to look around the Pakistani & Afghan diaspora in west & compare it to Iranian diaspora in the west. That too with a great deal of interaction with the western world by Pakistanis at large. We had to suffer the indignation of being colonised by the Brits but they never got us to accept modernity in the form of females opting for Skirts over shalwar.

However, not every thing is hunky dory & the effects of Bollywood & the associated indianisation of the female mind is pretty invasive too for a good portion of our society. If things continue the way they are we ll need a concerted effort to fight against this onslaught too.
Thank GOD we haven’t industrialized yet & aren’t going to anytime soon either.

What value, you guys selected Jerjis from 124000 prophet.
Want value go and select a value which matter .
Not hair of people.its a value that enemy like you be busy with it so you be busy and not see what they and their agent are doing inside the country

 

[Hack-Hook]

Well, that's a rosy way to look at it.....may I ask who was the last country to hit Israel/Tel Aviv? When and which country landed BMs on Israel?
Also, since we're on the subject, which other country did Israel send a message to asking for a cease fire?......Ever?

As the Americans say, don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

A question on first day Israel said the captain would be for how long and how long it took to end

 

[Hack-Hook]

let me back up, first of all you listed bs that we already know about.... Yeah they caught us flat-footed, why you rehashing it? Everybody in here knows what happened on the first and second day of that war....#2, why why are you guys so eager to slam what we did? I can point you to 100 videos on YouTube with ex European and US military ppl saying Iran got surprise but they bounced back and saved face. So, I don't get why you guys are basically rehashing the same crap over and over again? But not even give equal time or consideration to what the armed forces did after....as if they didn't blow up Hiafa and badly fk up Tel-Aviv...even a non-geo political laymen would see that...amazing!
#3, just because the US got involved doesn't mean they won...can you please digest this part? The US was supposed to turn us into Iraq, do you understand? It didn't happen! So we lost three facilities....it's war, shit happens. Now we're back, remember how you kept knocking down any kind of news about us rebuilding our air defense system? Calling the links or outlets weak? Now we know that we are rebuilding our air defenses....we have fighters on order, and MIG 29's already in Iran. But let's forget the fact that you knocked all those news briefs down. And now we have ppl in here saying we can normalize with the US unless we marry Israel.... And I posted something that blows a big hole in that argument...
Now would you like that crow fried or grilled?

You still believe mig-29 are in iran

 

[ShapurII]

I remember you from the old PDF.....you were a true believer, was there a single event that made you say enough is enough? Or was it accumulation over time? The reason I'm asking you is because, these guys fked up bad to lose people like you........I've been saying that the regime can survive but it needs to reform itself. And that change has to come from inside...Seems like reform only happens when they're in danger of losing a large swath of the population.....Masha's death was a fork in the road, and the idiots took the wrong fork, but now all of a sudden they changed the rules and say hijab is not mandatory anymore. This is a bit late, I think the mechanism of change/reform is broken. If we get free elections, I mean free of the bullshit Guardian council meddling and things of that nature.....the SL anointing people..etc.

The Ayatollahs have a tendency to get beaten up by the stick, and never get to eat the carrot.

I remember when I told the fools on PDF that the Ayatollahs had absolutely no choice but to accept the will of the people about hijab, I had to leave the forum because I couldn't believe we had so many fools with zero understanding of Iranian society, and sociology in general, here. What happened? Hijab is now more or less free to the point that women are wearing skirts in some places in Tehran and people still hate the regime, even more than before, because the regime killed teenage girls over hijab.

Instead of respecting people's voice, they decided to resist as much as they could until they were forced to make changes. When you do something because you have lost and you no longer have a choice, you will no longer get rewarded for it. Sometimes it's just too late and the Ayatollahs love to resist change until it's too late.

Just see how much Tehran has changed since Mahsa Amini protests:

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[Persian Gulf]

let me back up, first of all you listed bs that we already know about.... Yeah they caught us flat-footed, why you rehashing it? Everybody in here knows what happened on the first and second day of that war....

it seems your first problem is that you think things only went badly on the first and second days of the war

question - when was the replacement commander of the central command HQ killed? when was the head of the IRGC intelligence and his deputy killed? they were not killed in the first and second day of the war. did we manage to kill even one notable military figure in Israel, or just 30 civilians, to be proud of it?

#2, why why are you guys so eager to slam what we did? I can point you to 100 videos on YouTube with ex European and US military ppl saying Iran got surprise but they bounced back and saved face.

because some people here continue to live in delusion and create their own fantasies where Iran was not humiliated and left with launching 5-10 missiles per day in the latter days of the war so it is important that we embrace reality so it doesn't happen again rather than construct a victory narrative

But not even give equal time or consideration to what the armed forces did after....as if they didn't blow up Hiafa and badly fk up Tel-Aviv...even a non-geo political laymen would see that...amazing!

if they did equal achievements like flying over Tel Aviv and precisely bombing significant military targets multiple times a day and killing the entire IAF military command then I would give equal time or consideration to it. this isn't affirmative action where I must give equal praise to Iran's lesser achievements just because it is the underdog

"blow up Haifa" maybe 4-5 missiles hit Haifa and you think Haifa was blown up ? this shows you are not in touch with reality

#3, just because the US got involved doesn't mean they won...can you please digest this part? The US was supposed to turn us into Iraq, do you understand?

yes whenever we lose a war we can always say that it could have been much worse so actually that means we did not lose

 

[Navid09]

All governments print money . The U.S government is printing money to cover a two trillion dollar deficit . The government debt is reaching 40 trillion dollars. The exchange rate in Iran has nothing to do with money printing. Who sets the exchange rate ?
The inflation has a lot more to do with supply and demand, and the psychological factor being played on the Iranian population than the insignificant money printing.
In Iran, it has to do everything with capital flow and restrictions.
Below is the official exchange rate:

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Free market exchange rate

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There is a 70 toman spread .
anyone with privileged access to the cheap dollars can buy at the official window and resell on the parallel market for a large, often risk-free profit.
Who can do that in Iran? Put on your thinking cap.
You buy $1 at the exchange rate and sell it on the open market . You make a killing .Those benefiting from the gap have a clear incentive to resist rate unification or policies that strengthen the rial.The layperson doesn’t understand the the Ponzi scheme and it ends up having a devastating psychological effect.
those with inside access to cheap official dollars can flip them on the free market, pocketing enormous profit at the expense of ordinary citizens whose currency keeps losing value.
They( aghazadeha) drain foreign-exchange reserves while delivering no added productivity.
Ordinary working class Iranians face rising prices, as importers mark goods to the real (free-market) rate.
Let’s say an official or connected importer gets access to
$10,000,000 USD at the official rate = 42,000 IRR per USD.
Now he resells those same dollars on the free market at let’s say 90,000 IRR per USD.That’s roughly a 114% profit on one transaction.That $5 million profit didn’t come from productivity or exports — it came from currency distortion.The wider the gap between the official and free-market rates, the more lucrative the scheme.
That is called the enemy within.

Yes but the amount Iran has printed/produced has been around 7-10x more than the likes of USA or UK.

Just look at M2 broad money supply growth in Iran compared to other countries.

Supply and demand of the currency does also have an affect, but there is much much more rial in circulation than 10 years compared to say pounds or dollars that have increased in this time frame.

If suddenly complete confidence was restored in the rial, it would never ever go back to 4,000 tomans per dollar or whatever it was pre trump sanctions in 2018.

 

[ShapurII]

Yes but the amount Iran has printed/produced has been around 7-10x more than the likes of USA or UK.

Just look at M2 broad money supply growth in Iran compared to other countries.

Supply and demand of the currency does also have an affect, but there is much much more rial in circulation than 10 years compared to say pounds or dollars that have increased in this time frame.

If suddenly complete confidence was restored in the rial, it would never ever go back to 4,000 tomans per dollar or whatever it was pre trump sanctions in 2018.

On top of that, money in circulation should be proportional to your production power and your imports. The US may print trillions of dollars, but it won't be an issue or rise the prices by just 1% or 2% because it is backed by the production power of all the Western world and Asian countries like Japan and South Korea. Iran may print $10 billion and it causes a 10% increase in inflation. Apples and oranges.

When you are under sanctions, when you have electricity cuts and water shortage, when you cannot acquire raw materials, increasing liquidity will only result in uncontrollable inflation, hoarding and housing crisis because you cannot import goods or increase your production.

It's quite simple in theory. If I print a paper and sign it and give it to you and tell you whenever you give me this paper, I will give you one potato, then we have a currency that is worth 1 potato. If some day I give you two such papers but have only one potato, then one potato will be worth two signed papers, i.e. the price of potato has increased by 100% in our currency. If some day I have two potatoes and I know they will rot soon and I have to get rid of them, then my two potatoes will be sold for just one signed paper, i.e. the price will drop by 50%. It's just pretty basic, covered in every introductory course.

 

[Navid09]

I'll leave you with another one of my idioms.....(what's more Persian than that):
You're "missing the cheese for the holes"
CA is an admired state......they're envied by most other states, they have great weather, sun and surf, and mountains.....money, chicks and glamour. Of course the Rednecks in Alabama hate them..lol. But, Gavin Newsome will decimate the Repubs in a debate. Not only that, he has some great ideas. I think the US economy will go tits up by the 2nd quarter of 2026, believe me, I hope I'm wrong, I have a lot of money in the stock market. I've already cashed out 30% of my investments, I'll keep that cash on the sideline, it helps me sleep better at night.

If it does, your money will also devalue a lot so your better off buying tangible assets, precious metals, household goods, consumables etc

 

[Persian Gulf]

If it does, your money will also devalue a lot so your better off buying tangible assets, precious metals, household goods, consumables etc

actually in recessions cash is king and everyone will be selling their assets for cash to survive as they lose their jobs