Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

[Messerschmitt]

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[lightning f57]

I think whatever may come is coming sources in American government are saying attack is imminent, using word like imminent means pretty much they have seen all the preparation and chatter and everything might be ready in the next few hours or day.

In a CNN program I think a link was provided on this site where they covered the Iranian attack on US bases in Iraq following the Soleimani assassination, they made it seem like that they saw via satelite the Iranian MRBM positioned to hit those bases (must be something to work out trajectory by looking at a satellite picture) and they detected Iran getting commercial satellite images to see the look of the base. Also famously Trumpy said he was not worried as they had been tipped off. Now I dont know what to believe here, but maybe its plausible they have picked up satellite images and chatter. I would think Iran would expect this and will play its move accordingly.

 

[HamidAgha]

LMAO! this one is gold. You said, instead starting "LOLing", do blabla.. but really can't resist on this Einstein logic.

So how on earth you plan to tell the "stockpile" of Iran eventually lol? You are either a nuclear power or not. The "stockpile", number of warheads are always estimates. No nation deliberately tells their warheads unless you want to do some sort of treaty. The number of nukes of India, Pakistan, China, NK are all estimates.. These could be drastically different then what's listed. The amount of nuclear enrichment is way more than what the estimates of warheads is.

Lastly, why on earth you need loads of nukes at first place? All you need is to create deterrance against Israel. Even if few of its major population centers can be theoretically wiped out (not literally) that's deterrence!

You can never threat the US with nuclear weapons at first place. You don't have delivery capability to delivery nukes to US mainland. However, you got delivery capability till Israel and that refrains US from annihilating Iran as US knows that Iran will take that revenge from israel.

According to your logic, Iran will stockpile 100s or maybe 1000s of nukes then declare. Well Okay!! have fun! I hope you are not the advisor to your supreme leader. Maybe in the process work on their delivery mechanism. Sheer numbers won't do shit to distant enemies.

Your first paragraph doesn't make sense, so I'll just take it as a compliment that you think I'm Einstein level? So childish.

Iran would let the world know it has "enough" nukes when it either tests one or attacks Israel more directly via conventional means. Then you can let those who estimate, estimate. Pretty obvious.

Youre also assuming Iran would have a first strike policy, which is idiotic and suicidal. So I think Iran would fare far worse with these suggestions than what I suggest. Iran would obviously have a second strike policy, which would allow it to attack conventionally without threat of escalation. However Iran would physically need to have enough nukes to stop Israel from responding in a third strike AND US forces in the region, NOT mainland US (duh!), to intervene without their entire army getting wiped out. That is more nukes than you think and Iran does not have enough enriched uranium for that volume of warheads.

 

[Awwad]

Your first paragraph doesn't make sense, so I'll just take it as a compliment that you think I'm Einstein level? So childish.

Iran would let the world know it has "enough" nukes when it either tests one or attacks Israel more directly via conventional means. Pretty obvious.

Youre also assuming Iran would have a first strike policy, which is idiotic and suicidal. So I think Iran would fare far worse with these suggestions than what I suggest. Iran would obviously have a second strike policy, which would allow it to attack conventionally without threat of escalation. Iran would need to have enough nukes to stop Israel from responding in a third strike AND US forces in the region, NOT mainland US (duh!), to intervene without their entire army getting wiped out. That is more nukes than you think and Iran does not have enough enriched uranium for that volume of warheads.

Well, I asked you earlier to stop doing arrangement's for the sake of arguements.

Clearly you are provoked or somewhat in panic ? Its okay if sometimes you make a stupid logic / arugements to accept other's. Its even bigger mistake to carry on with your stupidity and dragging it on. Why on earth you "assume" that Iran I consider has first strike policy? You really don't read, do you? I already tried to tell you in last few posts that Nuclear deterrance is declaring your capability by a test and telling your enemies that you are now a nuclear power. Period. Why on earth you are always jumping on nuclear war ? Why you are ever ready to throw nukes on israel? The nuclear deterrance will do "only" one thing. That is ensure security and survival of Iran. No country either US or Israel will critically destroy Iran, because they'd be sure that Iran has nukes and it will respond. So its save you at first place. It creates the balance. You really need to study what the nuclear deterrance is, what's MAD is, how it works in peace and at war times. Otherwise your comical story will just continue. Its never too late to learn a thing or two dear. Don't let ego ruin your character.

 

[RescueRanger]

The Israeli War Cabinet has convened an urgent emergency meeting in Tel Aviv.

 

[Immortals]

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People in Tehran are saying it’s due to bad weather that flights were cancelled.

 

[HamidAgha]

Well, I asked you earlier to stop doing arrangement's for the sake of arguements.

Clearly you are provoked or somewhat in panic ? Its okay if sometimes you make a stupid logic / arugements to accept other's. Its even bigger mistake to carry on with your stupidity and dragging it on. Why on earth you "assume" that Iran I consider has first strike policy? You really don't read, do you? I already tried to tell you in last few posts that Nuclear deterrance is declaring your capability by a test and telling your enemies that you are now a nuclear power. Period. Why on earth you are always jumping on nuclear war ? Why you are ever ready to throw nukes on israel? The nuclear deterrance will do "only" one thing. That is ensure security and survival of Iran. No country either US or Israel will critically destroy Iran, because they'd be sure that Iran has nukes and it will respond. So its save you at first place. It creates the balance. You really need to study what the nuclear deterrance is, what's MAD is, how it works in peace and at war times. Otherwise your comical story will just continue. Its never too late to learn a thing or two dear. Don't let ego ruin your character.

You can't stop me from responding or commenting, so either discuss your point or go away. Those are your two options.

You're all over the place buddy, im honestly struggling to understand what you're typing. There you go again building a strawman about the benefits of nukes. What a time bandit. You were the one who said:

However, you got delivery capability till Israel and that refrains US from annihilating Iran as US knows that Iran will take that revenge from israel.

Which implies US would attack Iran first for "Iran to take revenge on Israel". You seem to have forgotten what you wrote as you're frantic and losing control, I fear. So anyway, what you're suggesting would be a first strike policy by Iran and that would herald a decisive response by US. However Iran should not be the first country to use nukes, it should be the last. Which is why it needs to have enough nukes to take out Israel AND US/western capability in the region.

Also you seem to think nukes are there for decorations and not to be used. When dealing with a rabid nation like Israel, you must be willing, ready and able to use them. Something which you don't understand yet.

Lastly, I do like to learn but from experts in the field who command respect, whose work speaks for itself, who have acumen and real-life experience, not some emotional dude on a forum "lol"ing, "lmao"ing and talking like some hipster. I have standards and so should you.

 

[RescueRanger]

 

[Immortals]

Doesn’t look like anything happening tonite. False alarm.

 

[Awwad]

You can never threat the US with nuclear weapons at first place. You don't have delivery capability to delivery nukes to US mainland. However, you got delivery capability till Israel and that refrains US from annihilating Iran as US knows that Iran will take that revenge from israel.

How on earth the above "implies" what you said in below: ????

Which implies US would attack Iran first for "Iran to take revenge on Israel".

All you do is pass out hilarious strategies, don''t know what nuclear deterrence is, then you assume things which I never said, then you misunderstand. What I said in the very first paragraph is exactly what the nuclear deterrence would look like for Iran. You want to twist and pick on some words, then be my guest.
If you really don't have anything substantial to prove your logic then perhaps better to not derail the topic in meaningless explanations.

 

[Immortals]

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[HamidAgha]

How on earth the above "implies" what you said in below: ????




All you do is pass out hilarious strategies, don''t know what nuclear deterrence is, then you assume things which I never said, then you misunderstand. What I said in the very first paragraph is exactly what the nuclear deterrence would look like for Iran. You want to twist and pick on some words, then be my guest.
If you really don't have anything substantial to prove your logic then perhaps better to not derail the topic in meaningless explanations.

I already explained it, so I wont be repeating myself. You either get it or you don't.

Hilarious to whom? Some random guy on a forum? Who cares! Your strategy is designed to isolate and destroy Iran, which is obviously what you want. I don't, I want Iran to win! That's probably why we won't agree on anything.

Lastly I think you need to take your own advice about derailing. It takes two to tango.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Persian Gulf]

iran should keep doing this every day and keep Israel on their toes lol

 

[HamidAgha]

iran should keep doing this every day and keep Israel on their toes lol

As long as there is an end product then this would work and be satisfying.