Iran Plans to Buy Chinese J-10C Instead of Russian Su-35

[Ali_Baba]

BBC is confirming, Iran is looking for 40 odd J10Cs

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What is odd though, the chap mentioned that Eurofighter Typhoon is not equipped with AESA radar as of yet??

Not yet :

Behind the scenes with the Leonardo ECRS Mk2 AESA radar

Inside the Leonardo facility in Edinburgh, engineers are building what’s been called the most advanced combat radar ever developed in Europe. The ECRS Mk2 will transform the RAF Typhoon’s ability to detect, jam, and fight in contested airspace. George Allison went behind the scenes to take a...

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

UK approves long-lead funding for Typhoon’s AESA radar upgrade - FlightGlobal

A key radar upgrade being advanced for part of the UK Royal Air Force’s Eurofighter Typhoon fleet has passed its latest milestone, with funding provided to start production work on long-lead items for the ECRS Mk2 sensor. A key radar upgrade being advanced for part of the UK Royal Air Force’s...

www.flightglobal.com

Funding for upgrades only made last month for the upgrade, now that the integration testing is complete.

 

[Taimoor]

What i sometimes don't understand is how we say that BBC is a British propaganda deep state outlet, yet once BBC says something, we quickly come to the conclusion that it's 100% real now and confirmed, just because it's BBC

Its not about being confirmed or not, its just when your supposedly enemy propaganda mouthpiece start talking about such things, normally they wont talk or even downplay.

I am more interested in Typhoon still not having AESA radar, which came as a surprise to me.

 

[Taimoor]

Not yet :

Behind the scenes with the Leonardo ECRS Mk2 AESA radar

Inside the Leonardo facility in Edinburgh, engineers are building what’s been called the most advanced combat radar ever developed in Europe. The ECRS Mk2 will transform the RAF Typhoon’s ability to detect, jam, and fight in contested airspace. George Allison went behind the scenes to take a...

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

UK approves long-lead funding for Typhoon’s AESA radar upgrade - FlightGlobal

A key radar upgrade being advanced for part of the UK Royal Air Force’s Eurofighter Typhoon fleet has passed its latest milestone, with funding provided to start production work on long-lead items for the ECRS Mk2 sensor. A key radar upgrade being advanced for part of the UK Royal Air Force’s...

www.flightglobal.com

Funding for upgrades only made last month for the upgrade, now that the integration testing is complete.

wow. so basically typhoon going against J10C or Jf17 Blk3 will get its arse handed over in current configuration. How long Typhoon is in service! its a shocker.

 

[Ali_Baba]

wow. so basically typhoon going against J10C or Jf17 Blk3 will get its arse handed over in current configuration. How long Typhoon is in service! its a shocker.

Well, that is the British MOD for you, gold plates everything and you end up with no military capability.

 

[ToddE]

Iran will purchase modern jets with ToT, it will also build nuclear devices, it will test ICBMs, modernise its Hydrocarbon infrastructure and all, once current leadership of old senile Marxist-Mullahs changes.

None of this will happen with current lot in power. People are wasting their time discussing things that just cant happen due to men in charge.

 

[PakAl]

Iran will purchase modern jets with ToT, it will also build nuclear devices, it will test ICBMs, modernise its Hydrocarbon infrastructure and all, once current leadership of old senile Marxist-Mullahs changes.

None of this will happen with current lot in power. People are wasting their time discussing things that just cant happen due to men in charge.

But Iran is running out of time, you certainly do not want Iran to be attacked and sent 50 years back. Iran must change its policies, build strong relations, economy and military.

 

[ToddE]

But Iran is running out of time, you certainly do not want Iran to be attacked and sent 50 years back. Iran must change its policies, build strong relations, economy and military.

I am not making policies.

 

[PakAl]

I am not making policies.

I understand. Hopefully the mullahs will accept their failures and allow an independent iranian national army to rise, with professional people who know how to protect Iran.

 

[ToddE]

I understand. Hopefully the mullahs will accept their failures and allow an independent iranian national army to rise, with professional people who know how to protect Iran.

They serve a foreign idea, not Iranian nation. Khamenei made it very clear that Iran is not important, religion is important. What do you expect from this person?

Iran is full of bright professionals who given chance will serve the nation to the fullest. Younger officers of IRGCAF re-established CoC in 7 hours and struck worlds most guarded airspace of Israel, after losing its entire Command structure. Mullahs played no role in it. If they are gone all of what I listed will happen. Modern Fighters, ICBMs, LEO constellation, Nuclear devices ... But right now its a waste of time.

 

[corven]

Iran has a long way to go

 

[PakAl]

They serve a foreign idea, not Iranian nation. Khamenei made it very clear that Iran is not important, religion is important. What do you expect from this person?

Iran is full of bright professionals who given chance will serve the nation to the fullest. Younger officers of IRGCAF re-established CoC in 7 hours and struck worlds most guarded airspace of Israel, after losing its entire Command structure. Mullahs played no role in it. If they are gone all of what I listed will happen. Modern Fighters, ICBMs, LEO constellation, Nuclear devices ... But right now its a waste of time.

I think it's just a typical mullah mentality. For example does Iran come first or Islam. It's a trick question by islamist type of people to confuse people. The reality is Iran is an Islamic nation, serving Iran, protecting Iran, developing Iran, looking after its people is working for Islam. The Pakistani extremist mullahs in the west say are you Pakistani or Muslim first, a person will obviously say muslim, then they will start to brainwash you in to thinking they (the extremists) represent Islam and Pakistan is anti Islamic by bringing out its fault whilst the extremists themselves will hide their mistakes. The Iran mullahs need to understand protecting Iran is protecting Islam, they just also understand as a Muslim we need to make sure we get the best technology/weapons to protect ourselves, ofcourse relying on God to protect us and give us victory is always part of us but we must be prepared.

 

[chinasun]

The claim that Iran has decided to purchase the J-10C remains unconfirmed by either Chinese or Iranian authorities. In my view, given Iran’s tight defense budget, it is unlikely to acquire the J-10C in the near term for the following reasons:

1. Lack of integrated support systems – Iran has no airborne early-warning aircraft, compatible data links, or modern ground-based radars; buying the fighters alone would not create an effective air-combat system.
2. Israeli threat – Any attempt to deliver the aircraft could turn them into high-value targets for pre-emptive Israeli strikes.
3. Economic hardship – Severe sanctions have left Iran short of the foreign currency needed for a multi-billion-dollar purchase.
4. Insufficient air-combat training – Iranian pilots have little recent experience with modern beyond-visual-range tactics and would require years to reach proficiency.
5. Russian diplomatic pressure – Moscow still expects Tehran to prioritize Russian platforms such as the Su-35.

With limited funds, Iran would gain far more immediate value by investing in integrated air-defense systems and expanding its drone fleet.

 

[RajaBaja]

wow. so basically typhoon going against J10C or Jf17 Blk3 will get its arse handed over in current configuration. How long Typhoon is in service! its a shocker.

It did have its rear kicked already by block II's in an exercise. Current configuration without AESA will make it easy for block III to target it.

Iran will NOT buy the J-10C until a comprehensive deal is done between Iran and the US. Under which, sanctions issue will be addressed, a security guarantee of some sort will be given so that Iran can start a new life, without fear for Israeli pre-emptive strikes and can build it's military. In Iran-Israel context, the J-10C are not really super offensive weapons that can reach Israel and cause issues. They are more concerned with Iran's ballistic missiles.

But Iran will need to buy a comprehensive product suite, not just J-10C's and PL-15. They'll need AWACS too on which, Israel will have an issue as Chinese AWACS come with good OTH coverage and long ranges.

 

[HAIDER]

China responds after reports Iran seeks J-10 fighter jets​

Pakistan Air Force J-10C fighter jets perform at a rehearsal ahead of Pakistan's national day parade in Islamabad on March 21, 2024.© Photo by AAMIR QURESHI/AFP via Getty Images
China is willing to supply its J-10 fighter aircraft to "friendly countries", its defense ministry said, after reports that Iran was seeking to procure the multi-role fighter jet after Israel's devasta

MSN

 

[Comandante]

Not yet :

Behind the scenes with the Leonardo ECRS Mk2 AESA radar

Inside the Leonardo facility in Edinburgh, engineers are building what’s been called the most advanced combat radar ever developed in Europe. The ECRS Mk2 will transform the RAF Typhoon’s ability to detect, jam, and fight in contested airspace. George Allison went behind the scenes to take a...

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

UK approves long-lead funding for Typhoon’s AESA radar upgrade - FlightGlobal

A key radar upgrade being advanced for part of the UK Royal Air Force’s Eurofighter Typhoon fleet has passed its latest milestone, with funding provided to start production work on long-lead items for the ECRS Mk2 sensor. A key radar upgrade being advanced for part of the UK Royal Air Force’s...

www.flightglobal.com

Funding for upgrades only made last month for the upgrade, now that the integration testing is complete.

This news is definitely false. England is withdrawing all Typhoons from service and buying F35s instead. In the meantime, their own 5th generation aircraft may be in the trash. The English army is in a deplorable state.