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In Telegram channels you can see many videos of Spike missiles connected to SMS cards to fire from sare distance to TELARS coming out from their shelters.

Vía Camarada Fibrik.
There's even a whole video of it by state TV that fully explains the setup. I haven't saved it unfortunately but maybe others can post it here.
 
Iran has a population of 92 million who have just proven that they are enthusiastic in their defence of Iran. Iran must mobilise the basij to provide security and intel on trators/infiltrators in and around their communities all across the country. The Army, IRGC must deploy to the field around the border to disperse the forces to protect from future air attacks on bases and to guard Iran from Zionist backed armed Separatist movements coming from neighbouring countries. The ground must first be secured before the air defence forces can be redeployed to close off the airspace in north western Iran.
 
Iran has a population of 92 million who have just proven that they are enthusiastic in their defence of Iran. Iran must mobilise the basij to provide security and intel on trators/infiltrators in and around their communities all across the country. The Army, IRGC must deploy to the field around the border to disperse the forces to protect from future air attacks on bases and to guard Iran from Zionist backed armed Separatist movements coming from neighbouring countries. The ground must first be secured before the air defence forces can be redeployed to close off the airspace in north western Iran.
Basij intelligence network failed , and the reason is simple the organization become too ideological and localized to small circle of people. They aren't effective becaus they aren't present in every layer of Iranian society...


Our intelligence organizations become too much ideoligized, this dull their edge ...
 
In theory, what happened was not supposed to happen.

I published a sample of an air campaign against Iran in april 2025 (one month before Israel's attacks on Iran), an account on the X platform used data modeling and AI to produce this data, considering everything Israel did, I believe that a good part of what was reported in this analysis of the air campaign in april 2025 was true and actually happened.
Modeling, Planning and Force Projection for an Attack on Iran:

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Structure and Capabilities

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Name (type)AltitudeMissileDetect range (km)Tracking range (km)Min. range (km)Max range (km)Max altitude (km)Notes
Misaq-3 (MANPADS)Low---353.5 kmLicensed by China (QW-1)
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Ya Zahra-3MediumShahab-e Thaqeb--1 km16 km11 kmUsed by IRGCASF.
Herz-eh NobomMediumShahab-e Thaqeb--1 km16 km11 kmMobile system fully coupled to Ya Zahra.
TabasLow-mediumTaer-2A/2B, 3M9/9M9 Kub (24 km)250 km-75 km30 km27 kmIt can be coupled with the Bashir search radar.
Raad-1MediumTaer-1 (50 km), 3M9/9M9 Kub (24 km)--3 km50 km23 kmUsed by IRGCASF.
Mersad-1/2, QaderLow-mediumShahin, Shalamcheh, Sayyad-2150 km80 km45 km75 km18 kmUsed by IRIADF. Can be paired with Najm-804 and Hafaz mobile search systems (detection at 350 km, tracking at 110-150 km).
Talash-1Medium-highSayyad-1150 km-35 km75 km-Used to protect targets against a variety of airborne threats.
3rd of Khordad / Khordad-3Medium-highTaer-2/2B, Sayyad-2/3400 km150 km50 km105 km30 kmUsed by IRGCASF. Includes new launchers.
Talash-2Medium-highSayyad-2, Sayyad-3150 km-75 km120 km27 kmUpdated version of the S-200 system.
SayyadMedium-highSayyad-2, Sayyad-4150 km150 km50 km150 km27 kmActive radar with a range of 1500/1000 km.
Bavar-373HighSayyad-2, Sayyad-4320 km260 km75 km200/300 km27High-altitude air defense system with advanced capabilities.
This is not up-to-date data and I did not have time to check each Iranian air defense system due to lack of time.

Iran’s Air Defense Force is comprised of a combination of SAM systems, state-of-the-art radars, and early warning systems. The force is responsible for detecting, intercepting, and destroying any airborne threat, including aircraft, drones, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles.

Air Defense Systems: Iran has a diverse array of anti-aircraft missile systems, both short-range and long-range. The most advanced of these is the Bavar-373, which became operational in 2019 and is capable of intercepting targets at altitudes of up to 27 km and ranges of up to 200 km. Other systems include the Soviet-made S-200, the Talash, and the Mersad, a modernized version of the Hawk system.

Radars and Early Warning Systems: The IRIADF also operates an extensive network of radars and surveillance systems that cover the entire Iranian territory. These systems are crucial to providing a complete aerial picture and anticipating potential air attacks. Key radars include the Sepehr, which has a range of 3,000 km, and the Ghadir, which is also capable of detecting stealth aircraft and ballistic missiles.

Integration with Other Armed Forces: The IRIADF works closely with the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force and Navy to coordinate air defense operations and ensure a rapid response to any threats. The integration of communication and command systems allows Iran to respond in a coordinated manner to any violation of its airspace.

An important feature of Iran’s air defense is its emphasis on self-sufficiency. Due to international sanctions, Iran has had to develop its own weapons systems and radar technologies. Iran’s defense industry has grown substantially in recent decades, and the IRIADF has been a major beneficiary of these advances. In addition to the Bavar-373, Iran has produced several indigenous systems, such as the Khordad 3, which gained notoriety in 2019 after shooting down a US surveillance drone, the Global Hawk, over the Strait of Hormuz.

The development of these capabilities is part of Iran’s strategy to minimize its dependence on foreign suppliers and to ensure continued defense against attacks from adversary states, such as the United States and Israel. The IRIADF also conducts regular air defense exercises, such as Velayat Sky Shield, to test and enhance its readiness.

The Problem with Iran’s Strategy

The effectiveness of its air defenses could be tested in modern conflicts, where threats such as cruise missiles and stealth aircraft are increasingly sophisticated. Iran also faces continued pressure from international sanctions, which limit its access to cutting-edge technologies and components crucial to maintaining its systems.

It is abundantly clear that the force has played a key role in deterring potential air strikes and protecting the country's critical infrastructure, such as nuclear and military facilities, but none of that mattered when the actual attack took place.

Iran should have adopted a strategy similar to the Ukrainian one at the beginning of the war, staying hidden and disconnected, waiting for the attack on the targets and, immediately after the attack, the batteries turn on the radars and try to shoot down any evading planes.

Almost like an aerial “guerrilla” strategy.

The reality is that the Iranian defense tried to adopt a conventional strategy against the IAF, but it was not the main threat they initially faced. All of Iran’s air defense was compromised by cyber attacks, commando actions attacking with drones and ATGMs.
 
We had enough on Oct 28 2024 to keep the IAF outside our borders. So far I've only heard of 35 Martyrs announced from the Air defense force so hopefully that means that many systems survived and can bring coverage over western Iran.
long range defense , not the system used against drones
 
the problem is lack of number . how many operational arnan, 15 th of khordad or bavar we had?
ow many 9th of day we had....... how many zubin or how many azaraksh

how many samavat we had to use them against drones

I tried to tell you this and the rest of the board. But no one wanted to listen. Many thought Iran was producing these in hundreds. Many said Bavar production and S-300 were fine and mass deployed with no problems.

If Russia cannot build massive # of AD systems quickly, China cannot, U.S. cannot, and Israel cannot, what makes people think Iran can with its tiny $15B budget?

Good Air defense systems take time to build, and Iran isn’t the exception to the rule.
 
I tried to tell you this and the rest of the board. But no one wanted to listen. Many thought Iran was producing these in hundreds. Many said Bavar production and S-300 were fine and mass deployed with no problems.

If Russia cannot build massive # of AD systems quickly, China cannot, U.S. cannot, and Israel cannot, what makes people think Iran can with its tiny $15B budget?

Good Air defense systems take time to build, and Iran isn’t the exception to the rule.

Our problem is that we unveiled too many systems which is not feasible , we have more drone model and USA , we have more AD system than China ...
We need central R&D and industrial base for creating AD , Aircraft , and Drone as well.
The new Org should be under Chief of the General Staff and all military complex should take order from it ...

Our production should be practical and in good numbers ...
 
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Our problem is that we unveiled too many systems which is not feasible , we have more drone model and USA , we have more AD system than China ...
We need central R&D and industrial base for creating AD , Aircraft , and Drone as well.
The new Org should be under Chief of the General Staff and all military complex should take order from it ...

Our production should be practical and in good numbers ...

We didn’t “unveil” anything actually. What you saw were just Iran’s arms industrial complex unveiling a product in an attempt to get contracts (from the armed forces).

Everytime one of these events took place everyone on this board assumed it was being mass produced or would be mass produced soon in large amounts. It appears few of these ever were.

Just like Iranian MRAPs, we saw 5-6 models quickly revealed and yet still in Iran our armed forces drive around in Toyota trucks.

What happens to Dezful, Dey, Majid, and Zoubin?

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Iran’s air defense network ended up being a paper tiger. It collapsed faster than Syria and Iraq’s.
 
I tried to tell you this and the rest of the board. But no one wanted to listen. Many thought Iran was producing these in hundreds. Many said Bavar production and S-300 were fine and mass deployed with no problems.

If Russia cannot build massive # of AD systems quickly, China cannot, U.S. cannot, and Israel cannot, what makes people think Iran can with its tiny $15B budget?

Good Air defense systems take time to build, and Iran isn’t the exception to the rule.
to be fair, AD network was destroyed by insiders with toy drones, not by idf...
 
to be fair, AD network was destroyed by insiders with toy drones, not by idf...
There dozens of videos where we can see air defence systems getting destroyed by loitering munitions that can only be launched by Israeli jets. In those videos it can be seen there are personal operating them, so I would considered their operational status and perhaps lack of experience to be far more likely factor.
 
to be fair, AD network was destroyed by insiders with toy drones, not by idf...

The new Iranian cope is that everything was destroyed by drones or spike and no Israeli jets penetrated Iranian skies.
 
The new Iranian cope is that everything was destroyed by drones or spike and no Israeli jets penetrated Iranian skies.
But we are witnessing far worse situation in Israelis media and public discourse...2 days ago same "times of Israel" presented real data about 40 000 hit buildings, 12 000 homeless people and more than 30 000 people who have direct damage from Iranian attacks...

And everything with 36 iranian missiles that were not intercepted...

This is disrespectful for common sense in their media landscape...
 
The new Iranian cope is that everything was destroyed by drones or spike and no Israeli jets penetrated Iranian skies.
For sure israeli aircraft entered in airspace. But seems obvious that Mossad and hired opositors and saboteurs destroyed the most sensitive systems (long range radars) and probably enough Long range TELARs to create blind spots in the IADs.

Anyway It is just curious the lower end Majid performed well again MALE. Maybe because their guidance system It is just passive and can hit unadvertently israelí aircrafts.

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