FUB
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"But for Iran, it is a major issue." Explain.
Iranian Air Force (IRIAF/IRGC-ASF) | News and Discussions
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trabi-tads
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90 launchers seems a lot especially when considering the number of Mi-28 Iran has which the system is normally fitted to. However it's very likely the system can be fitted to the Yak-130 and possibly other Iran aircraft such as Su-22, F-5, and other helicopters in its inventory. Of course they might supply some of the ground based launchers which seem to have a longer range at 20km instead of 14.5km. and can easily be mounted on light trucks as was demonstrated by Russia.
"Russia agreed to supply Iran with 90 launchers for an advanced precision-guided missile, the Financial Times reported on November 5, citing purported Russian defense-industry documents.
The deal, if the systems have been delivered, would give Tehran another precision-strike capability that could further tighten its grip on the Strait of Hormuz.
The APU-L is a twin-missile launcher designed primarily for Russian attack helicopters. A separate APU-305 configuration carries a single missile. Iran has been acquiring Russian Mi-28NE helicopters, with photographs of the helicopters at an Iranian aviation facility emerging online last January.
The missile measures about 1.9 meters in length, weighs approximately 105 kilograms and carries a 25-kilogram warhead. It reaches speeds of up to 230 meters per second and has a reported guaranteed range of 14.5 kilometers. Its electro-optical seeker includes thermal imaging, while a two-way radio link allows an operator to monitor the missile’s view and adjust its course during flight. Notably, the missile’s official export specifications also list above-water targets among the objects it can engage.
Russia has recently demonstrated another way to deploy the same missile. During the Center-2026 military exercises in early October, the Russian military used a new truck-mounted ground system designated Izdeliye 347, equipped with a modified APU-L launcher and LMUR missile.
The Russian Defense Ministry said the system was used to strike artillery positions detected by reconnaissance and was designed to engage stationary and moving targets at ranges of up to 20 kilometers."
"Russia agreed to supply Iran with 90 launchers for an advanced precision-guided missile, the Financial Times reported on November 5, citing purported Russian defense-industry documents.
The deal, if the systems have been delivered, would give Tehran another precision-strike capability that could further tighten its grip on the Strait of Hormuz.
The APU-L is a twin-missile launcher designed primarily for Russian attack helicopters. A separate APU-305 configuration carries a single missile. Iran has been acquiring Russian Mi-28NE helicopters, with photographs of the helicopters at an Iranian aviation facility emerging online last January.
The missile measures about 1.9 meters in length, weighs approximately 105 kilograms and carries a 25-kilogram warhead. It reaches speeds of up to 230 meters per second and has a reported guaranteed range of 14.5 kilometers. Its electro-optical seeker includes thermal imaging, while a two-way radio link allows an operator to monitor the missile’s view and adjust its course during flight. Notably, the missile’s official export specifications also list above-water targets among the objects it can engage.
Russia has recently demonstrated another way to deploy the same missile. During the Center-2026 military exercises in early October, the Russian military used a new truck-mounted ground system designated Izdeliye 347, equipped with a modified APU-L launcher and LMUR missile.
The Russian Defense Ministry said the system was used to strike artillery positions detected by reconnaissance and was designed to engage stationary and moving targets at ranges of up to 20 kilometers."
trabi-tads
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There was a report a few days ago stating once war was over Russia would deliver 24-48 Su-35. Which would be a great addition to the Iranian Air Force. This would perfect sense as any aircraft delivered now would become a target and pilots need time to train. Apparently the aircraft are already to be delivered and pilots have already been receiving training in Russia.
Flotilla
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Not that great.
The utility of those missiles in this war remains limited. Putin knows that and gives publicity to something that has very limited interest.
Real weapons needed are Kh59M2 and Kh31MP.
IRIAF would be very grateful to have those integrated even if it is a fortune integration with limited capabilities like the Ukranians Su24 did with the french cruise missiles...
But I am sure Putin won´t open the hand for those pair...
PakAl
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Will just say 100 Su35s be effective enough for Iran. Usa Israel use jamming, AWACS, Satelites to gain advantage over enemy aircrafts, they see first and shoot first. Iran will need advance Awacs, military satelites to fully utilise Su35s.
Jalz
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They will not bring awacs into iranian airspace.
Flotilla
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In fact they don't need to.
There is a net of satellites with GMTI have today so damn good high resolution that they could eventually start making AMTI (that means to shift or simultaneing Around Moving Target Indication to Air Moving Target Indication). That means that today there are technology enough to use systhetic aperture radar surveillance to search enemy aircrafts. To the point that E7 Wedgetail was cancelled (E3 replacement!).
So USAF or US Navy won't need and AEW in future.
Probably China has something similar and can provide early warning to Irán without having no AEW aircrafts.
Anyway It would be desirable to have an AEW and some generals of IRGC said that Irán has even purchased also AEW aircrafts, something dubious because even Russia has struggles to build one.
The Pentagon Embraces Space-Based AWACS
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| Shifting the air moving-target-indicator (AMTI) and ground moving-target-indicator (GMTI) missions to space also presents formidable physicschallenges inherent in tracking such targets from great distances. But military officials believe they are making progress. Satellites equipped with synthetic aperture radar have been performing AMTI tasks in orbital demonstrations, Gen. Gregory Guillot, commander of U.S. NorthernCommand and North American Aerospace Defense Command, said recently (AW&ST June 2-15, p. 17). |
Michael
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Advanced electronic and information technology is, in itself, a national weakness for Russia. While Russia does permit the export of the A-50 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft, it currently faces a severe shortage of these units itself, making it difficult to supply them to Iran in the near term.
This perspective does not apply to Iran.In fact they don't need to.
There is a net of satellites with GMTI have today so damn good high resolution that they could eventually start making AMTI (that means to shift or simultaneing Around Moving Target Indication to Air Moving Target Indication). That means that today there are technology enough to use systhetic aperture radar surveillance to search enemy aircrafts. To the point that E7 Wedgetail was cancelled (E3 replacement!).
So USAF or US Navy won't need and AEW in future.
Probably China has something similar and can provide early warning to Irán without having no AEW aircrafts.
Anyway It would be desirable to have an AEW and some generals of IRGC said that Irán has even purchased also AEW aircrafts, something dubious because even Russia has struggles to build one.
The Pentagon Embraces Space-Based AWACS
Shifting the air moving-target-indicator (AMTI) and ground moving-target-indicator (GMTI) missions to space also presents formidable physicschallenges inherent in tracking such targets from great distances. But military officials believe they are making progress. Satellites equipped with synthetic aperture radar have been performing AMTI tasks in orbital demonstrations, Gen. Gregory Guillot, commander of U.S. NorthernCommand and North American Aerospace Defense Command, said recently (AW&ST June 2-15, p. 17).
The United States itself possesses a large number of airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) systems. Future satellite-based early warning systems would serve as a supplement to the existing architecture. Iran, by contrast, does not currently possess any AEW&C capabilities.
China is currently developing an approach that involves disaggregating the capabilities of dedicated airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) systems and distributing them across a wider array of platforms.
BTW.
China has just signed a contract to export an entire satellite constellation consisting of 20 satellites—a system designed to allow for ongoing future expansion. While nominally a civilian satellite constellation, its performance specifications......
Ali_Baba
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I must confess that I am very surprised any fighter jets are still left let alone operational in Iran at this point!
