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[Flotilla]

Rational countries prefer to invest in their own capabilities against an archfoe than in third-party actors.

US does it happily with Israel.

 

[tsunset]

In 3 months arms sale sanctions will be reapplied to Iran for at least 10 years and China/Russia will freeze any contracts and never deliver to Iran

This means Iran has two choice

Make a deal with the US to avoid the snapback trigger, modernize the air force at the same time with the sanctions relief

Or

Don't make a deal and make a device, but at the cost of not having an air force or a North Korea like air force with Su-7 and Mig-17 as the air force backbone

 

[Immortals]

In 3 months arms sale sanctions will be reapplied to Iran for at least 10 years and China/Russia will freeze any contracts and never deliver to Iran

This means Iran has two choice

Make a deal with the US to avoid the snapback trigger, modernize the air force at the same time with the sanctions relief

Or

Don't make a deal and make a device, but at the cost of not having an air force or a North Korea like air force with Su-7 and Mig-17 as the air force backbone

With what money?

Iran has been checkmated. Its economy is in shambles. Its infrastructure is in shambles. Toman is borderline worthless. And it spend 25 years playing hot potato with its nuclear program at the cost of $100T+ in economic damages and missed growth.

It’s unlikely there is a route Iran comes victorious any longer. The IRGC were exposed as incompetent and unable to defend Iranian skies or its nuclear program. Then to top it off B-2 bombers rolled in and bombed Fordow after repeated bombings by Israel on natanz, Arak, Isfahan, and more.

It’s over. Maybe Iranian Clown show (Hajizadeh, Salami, Bagheri) should have heeded warnings instead of false bravado back when Iran was losing Syria and its generals were getting killed every other day.

 

[ShapurII]

US does it happily with Israel.

That's because of the Zionist influence in the US. Jews control trillions of dollars in the US.
Do Iranians control trillions of dollars in China?

 

[Hack-Hook]

In 3 months arms sale sanctions will be reapplied to Iran for at least 10 years and China/Russia will freeze any contracts and never deliver to Iran

This means Iran has two choice

Make a deal with the US to avoid the snapback trigger, modernize the air force at the same time with the sanctions relief

Or

Don't make a deal and make a device, but at the cost of not having an air force or a North Korea like air force with Su-7 and Mig-17 as the air force backbone

or spent the money you want to spend on those aircraft in making the infrastructure for building aircraft inside iran

 

[Hack-Hook]

That's because of the Zionist influence in the US. Jews control trillions of dollars in the US.
Do Iranians control trillions of dollars in China?

no instead we invested billions in Syria and Lebanon

 

[ShapurII]

no instead we invested billions in Syria and Lebanon

Don't talk like the reformists are innocent in all this. Both are ruining Iran and they're fully aware of it.

As far as the reformists and the conservatives are involved, one hand washes the other.
The reformists are the scapegoats of the Ayatollahs when they want to approach the West.

We're back to the era of the Qajar dynasty.
The right (the conservatives) are backed by Russia, the left (the reformists) are backed by the West.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Don't talk like the reformists are innocent in all this. Both are ruining Iran and they're fully aware of it.

As far as the reformists and the conservatives are involved, one hand washes the other.
The reformists are the scapegoats of the Ayatollahs when they want to approach the West.

We're back to the era of the Qajar dynasty.
The right (the conservatives) are backed by Russia, the left (the reformists) are backed by the West.

are they really backed by west

 

[BigMela2onin]

In 3 months arms sale sanctions will be reapplied to Iran for at least 10 years and China/Russia will freeze any contracts and never deliver to Iran

This means Iran has two choice

Make a deal with the US to avoid the snapback trigger, modernize the air force at the same time with the sanctions relief

Or

Don't make a deal and make a device, but at the cost of not having an air force or a North Korea like air force with Su-7 and Mig-17 as the air force backbone

Most likely outcome is no deal and no bomb with snapback sanctions that will never be lifted. Every single person in IR leadership is a retard or a traitor.

 

[muhammed45]

China does it happily with Pakistan.

Pakistan has granted full control of Gwadar port to China. Would Iran Do that? No

Iran threw India out of Chabahar in a blink of an eye.

 

[PakAl]

The biggest question for the IRIAF is how it is going to reorganise itself going forward to be capable and credible airforce?

I don't think they can do much about it. Russians will not sell su30s and su35s, west will not sell, and China is the only option but will China upset Usa Eu, Israel and Gcc over Iran who is closer to Russia and India?

 

[Trailer23]

Iran threw India out of Chabahar in a blink of an eye.

They have?

I mean, I heard about a few arrests - here & there.

But that was more...espionage-related.

To make the claim about throwing out a Regional Partner like India is a big statement.

What exactly is the general vibe regarding the Indian Gov't in Iran right now?

 

[PakAl]

There is only one way . Send the pilots to the country that is supposed to deliver the aircraft to Iran to be trained . Meanwhile build fortified shelter for those fighters around various airbases in the country and rebuild the airdefence but this time don't cheap out

After the training of those pilots end , they fly the airplane back to iran

That is crazy though, that Iran is unable to protect itself in their own country. Realistically it's not ideal for Iran to buy high tech if they cannot protect them, what if agents on the ground destroy aircrafts. Regarding training pilots this is no issue, China/Pakistan can train them.

 

[ShapurII]

are they really backed by west

Cut the crap please

 

[PakAl]

This kind of mentality is the reason we have aging AF right now ... Most of us are dreaming about better fighter jets and not taking the opportunity to restore our AF ...

J10c is better but China is not willing to sell it (they didn't show any willingness in span of our war), so all the comparisons are invalid especially when we are in the middle of war ...

Pakistan openly supports us in this conflict, so I rather to act now and get what is more in my reach ...

For sure JF17B3 can patrol our sky and track and hunt down the enemy drones and disrupt enemy air raids with PL12 ( I doubt china agree to sell PL15 to us ) ...

let's be honest, even J10c has little chance against Israelis F35i and F15i supported by USA combat control systems ...

We just need something to support our AD network, hunt enemy drones and create enough cover for BM launchers to act and JF17B3 with support of some of AWACs can do it ...

This is definitely on the spot. Even if Iran buys 40 J35s they will be shot down by Israelis, their experience, equipment, satellite coverage, awaacs, in another words a whole package which wins them wars.

Jf17 block 3s are perfect for Iran, they are cost effective but very good 4.5th light weight planes, they will keep iaf in check, and protect Iran missile facilities so they can retaliate. Iran can also co produce Jf17 parts, add their own missiles on the plane, buy missiles from Turkey and add them. The J10c comes with restrictions, it's cutting edge air superiority plane.

Pakistan will train iranian pilots, it's not against UN sanctions, even if Iran doesn't buy jf17s Pakistan will still train iranian pilots. The issue is at the moment their is no point since Iran doesn't have an airforce, all their planes are outdated unfortunately.