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They have?

I mean, I heard about a few arrests - here & there.

But that was more...espionage-related.

To make the claim about throwing out a Regional Partner like India is a big statement.

What exactly is the general vibe regarding the Indian Gov't in Iran right now?
Read this translated article. (Off topic but worth of mentioning)


Few analysts would consider Iran’s partnership with India in Chabahar a successful experience of cooperation. Nearly a decade after the signing of the trilateral port agreement, the Indian operator’s investment in the port has been limited to the transfer of six cranes, and the port’s current prosperity is largely due to Iran’s handling of cargo. Almost all analysts agree that, apart from technical and legal considerations, India has paid far less strategic attention to Chabahar due to two external factors: (1) US sanctions and (2) the collapse of the Afghan republic; however, there is disagreement about why India continues to be involved in the project and has concluded a new contract.

Despite India’s emphasis on balanced relations with various parties in West Asia and the importance of Chabahar in providing the country with access to Central Asia (as part of its wider neighborhood), many believe that India has undermined the strategic project to prevent China from entering the region and has no intention of seriously pursuing its development. India’s recent positions on regional issues are in fact a reflection of its role and role-playing in the desired American order in the Asia-Pacific environment, the latest manifestation of which can be seen in India’s avoidance of condemning Israel’s actions since October 7, including the attack on Iran.

In fact, India’s growing closeness to Israel, along with tensions with Pakistan, has reinforced the concern that India’s presence in Makran could become a platform for inciting ethnic hatred in Balochistan (against Pakistan and Iran), and this concern has led to the issue of India’s disenfranchisement from the Chabahar project being raised in various circles.

Is disenfranchisement desirable?

The sanctions exemption for Chabahar Port has not been extended, and in light of the tariff disputes, it seems that India has joined the US maximum pressure campaign on sanctions, even more so than during the previous Trump presidency. Accordingly, the probability of direct investment ($120 million) and the promised credit line ($250 million) being realized is low, and without the development of Chabahar Port, the country’s other development goals in Makran will also be at risk. In addition, the continuation of the current situation for a period of ten years will definitely lead to the elimination of this port from the corridor competition.

Therefore, if there is a specific, transparent, and pragmatic positive plan for the development of Chabahar Port in the form of foreign participation or through domestic resources, the continuation of the current ambiguous cooperation with India will not be justified. Paying attention to the three aforementioned caveats is of particular importance, because in recent years, others have also viewed investment in Iran with suspicion, and there are many restrictions on the direction of domestic resources.

Given the cessation of oil exchanges between Iran and India, Chabahar Port is now the largest element linking the two countries to each other, and excluding India from this port must necessarily be pursued as part of the country’s macro foreign policy approach. This means that excluding India from Chabahar Port should be done along with a serious review of Iran’s relations with China and Pakistan. In this regard, the connection of Turkey, Azerbaijan and Pakistan in the South Caucasus also requires special attention.

Is dispossession possible?

In the issue of excluding India from the Chabahar project, one of the most important considerations is the ten-year contract signed between IPGL and the Ports Organization last year, parts of which were declared confidential in order to protect against US sanctions. It is not clear to us what exactly the two parties have included in the contract for unilateral termination and which institution will be responsible for arbitration in the event of a dispute.

If the arbitration is entrusted to a foreign institution, it remains to be seen how justifiable Iran's reasons for terminating the contract are and what financial and non-financial consequences it will have for Iran; because, in any case, the experience of the cersent should not be repeated in the country.

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A couple of keypoints in the article

1) Iran is gradually removing India from Chabahar project
2) Oil deals with India has reached zero point. Actually there is non
3) India is not considered as an economic partner anymore

All this leads to removal of India from Iranian port, especially, after allowing Chinese and Pakistani officials in inauguration of Chabahar port in Iran. Indians were badly triggered.

These dumbass idiots thought that with a few hundred million dollar, they were going to possess complete dominance in Iranian port.
 
There will never be an Iranian 4.5th gen fighter in the next 5 years.
We need to import jet fighters, even if it means to give short-term concessions to China.

I'd rather give Chabahar to China for 10 years than to see Iran balkanized, assuming they really want Chabahar though. Iran wanted the Chinese to invest in Chabahar in 2013 but they didn't because of US sanctions.

Not one in the next 30 years I say. The technology is too advanced.
 
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We couldn't stop a single Scalp let alone a Brahmos.

We couldn't even see them coming.

Big gap on published capabiility/ specifications vs real combat testing.

@Quwa

The territory is too big to shot down missles, India also cannot shoot down Pakistan missiles. The same way Israel could not shoot down Iranian missiles despite Israel being a tiny country, imagine covering 1000x larger area.
 
Not one in the next 30 years I say. The technology is too advanced.
It's not just that. There is simply no funding or proper management to pull it off.
It doesn't matter how high-tech something is as long as you are willing to pour money into the project and you have good managers.
 
Which country first threat to use nukes!? India or Pakistan!? What were Pakistan response to Brahmos!?
Pakistan has a nuclear first strike doctrine. Pakistan will always threaten to nuke first because it is part of our doctrine. As for brahmos strikes, Pakistan used Fatah missiles and struck their airfields back. I can give you footage of the strikes and also give you Indian military spokesperson admitting damage from those strikes.
 
It's not just that. There is simply no funding or proper management to pull it off.
It doesn't matter how high-tech something is as long as you are willing to pour money into the project and you have good managers.

Look at Turkey, they have professional workforce, they worked with nato for decades but still it will take atleast 20 years to field 5th generation planes. For Iran if they start now then it may take 30 years to field something like Jf17s, a medium weight 4.5th plane is still difficult, the engine, radars, avionics are difficult to master. China only recently mastered fighter jet engines.

Iran best bet is to follow jf17 route, work with Turkey China Pakistan and produce a 4.5th generation frame, buy engine from China and have a mixture of local Chinese Russia Turkish Pakistan avionics and weaponary. This path can be ideal for Iran.
 
Look at Turkey, they have professional workforce, they worked with nato for decades but still it will take atleast 20 years to field 5th generation planes. For Iran if they start now then it may take 30 years to field something like Jf17s, a medium weight 4.5th plane is still difficult, the engine, radars, avionics are difficult to master. China only recently mastered fighter jet engines.

Iran best bet is to follow jf17 route, work with Turkey China Pakistan and produce a 4.5th generation frame, buy engine from China and have a mixture of local Chinese Russia Turkish Pakistan avionics and weaponary. This path can be ideal for Iran.
Iranian aerospace industry is older than Turkey for sure, dating back to early 2000s or probably older. We have already reverse-engineered General Electric J85, a turbojet engine and we have produced a few too. We have manufactured a micro-turbofan engine for drones and cruise missiles, even though I doubt it has been mass-produced yet.

However, I don't think that Iran can have a domestic air force anytime soon. By the time Iran masters gen 4.5 fighters, China and the US will have moved on to gen 7, if there will ever be gen 7 fighters to begin with (with the rapid advance of AI).

At the end of the day, I strongly believe that the issue, not only for Iran but for most countries with highly-educated people, is funding and management. If Iran invests 500 billion dollars in a 4.5th fighter, we will succeed. But that figure is more than the nominal GDP of Iran.
 
That's because of the Zionist influence in the US. Jews control trillions of dollars in the US.
Do Iranians control trillions of dollars in China?
No, no. US use Israel to control Middle East. Other problem it is the crazy money they´re spending.

China use Iran to keep busy 50000 troops in the Middle East. But chinese government it is not stupid.
 
It’s unlikely there is a route Iran comes victorious any longer. The IRGC were exposed as incompetent and unable to defend Iranian skies or its nuclear program. Then to top it off B-2 bombers rolled in and bombed Fordow after repeated bombings by Israel on natanz, Arak, Isfahan, and more.
You´re wrong. Resisting is winning the war.

Israel is done. Economically they´re under ICU US economic machine pumping they money. But from universities to investing, they will be de facto nearly a blockade. No western democracy would understand in the future any investment in a terrorist state. And politically they´re on the brink of a civil war.

Iran did many mistakes. But Israel it is a pariah state and Iran has survived much worse military defeats (if this is a formally defeat, I don´t think so).

Returning to the main topic. Re-stock missiles, refurbish IADs and... IRIAF. BRICS and ASEAN countries will slowly open new markets while POTUS are sinking international trade. If that guy continues even some western countries would eventually join BRICS/ASEAN zone. Who knows.
 
Pakistan has granted full control of Gwadar port to China. Would Iran Do that? No

Iran threw India out of Chabahar in a blink of an eye.
Don´t mix Chabahar or Gwadar.

China uses Pakistan to degrade India. As China are using Iran to degrade US in the Middle East.
 
You´re wrong. Resisting is winning the war.

Israel is done. Economically they´re under ICU US economic machine pumping they money. But from universities to investing, they will be de facto nearly a blockade. No western democracy would understand in the future any investment in a terrorist state. And politically they´re on the brink of a civil war.

Iran did many mistakes. But Israel it is a pariah state and Iran has survived much worse military defeats (if this is a formally defeat, I don´t think so).

Returning to the main topic. Re-stock missiles, refurbish IADs and... IRIAF. BRICS and ASEAN countries will slowly open new markets while POTUS are sinking international trade. If that guy continues even some western countries would eventually join BRICS/ASEAN zone. Who knows.
In 3 months UN snapback procedure will be triggered, with a conventional arms import ban for 10+ years

China or Russia or Pakistan will never sell anything for another 10 years unless Iran reaches a deal before October
 
show evidence of the support
1. Hasan Rohani's PhD dissertation which is basically nonsense and irrelevant to International Law. It is believed it was written by someone else for him as he does not speak a word of English, particularly for a major like law which requires the highest degree of fluency in English and Latin. Numerous parts of his dissertation have been plagiarized verbatim, even though cited.
2. Khatami's daughter (Leila) visiting Harvard University as a scholar even though she was a pretty mediocre student at University of Tehran and the entire faculty of mathematics at Tehran University helped her graduate.
3. Thousands of reformists whose families live abroad in the US, Canada, England and other countries in the West.
4. The snapback mechanism that Zarif put in the JCPOA to give Europe incredible amount of influence over Iran.
5. The fact that they promote good relations with the West after the West betrays Iran every time. The fact that Rohani visited Italy and France as soon as the sanctions were temporarily lifted to buy junk products from these second-class economies.

One can write an encyclopedia about how the reformists are Western slaves while the conservatives are Russian slaves.
 
1. Hasan Rohani's PhD dissertation which is basically nonsense and irrelevant to International Law. It is believed it was written by someone else for him as he does not speak a word of English, particularly for a major like law which requires the highest degree of fluency in English and Latin. Numerous parts of his dissertation have been plagiarized verbatim, even though cited.
2. Khatami's daughter (Leila) visiting Harvard University as a scholar even though she was a pretty mediocre student at University of Tehran and the entire faculty of mathematics at Tehran University helped her graduate.
3. Thousands of reformists whose families live abroad in the US, Canada, England and other countries in the West.
4. The snapback mechanism that Zarif put in the JCPOA to give Europe incredible amount of influence over Iran.
5. The fact that they promote good relations with the West after the West betrays Iran every time. The fact that Rohani visited Italy and France as soon as the sanctions were temporarily lifted to buy junk products from these second-class economies.

One can write an encyclopedia about how the reformists are Western slaves while the conservatives are Russian slaves.
family members of very well known conservatives live and study in the west too

I know some of them ...
 
family members of very well known conservatives live and study in the west too

I know some of them ...
I know, but when you see their allegiance in politics, it's almost always Russia.
It doesn't matter what Russia does, they will defend Russia. The same goes for the reformists.
 

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