Iranian Chill Thread

[tsunset]

The situation of Pakistan and Iran is very depressing for me. We as a community should work together to de-escalate the tension. If we can’t do it on government level then at least on this forum. The opposing views are welcome but we must do it in appropriate way so the members of other nationalities are not offended.

Please suggest any ideas for implementation if you have any

IRGC f_cked up, we were all surprised when Pakistan FM released it
IRGC intentions was to probably send a message to Israel and GCC that they have no fear to strike somewhere else than inside Iraq, Syria (inside UAE, Bahrein or KSA for example). It was an idiotic move to chose Pakistan for this, it would be better if it was Talebans for example, they are serious threats to Iran in their nature and politics.

People says why Iran is attacking everything but Israel, the simple answer is that Israel does the exact same

And i can guarantee i have all the posts, no one here rejoiced over the 2 deaths, though people were rejoicing on the deaths of the retaliation, people with Saudi flags, i don't know if moderators can see deleted messages but there should be a ton of it, then users started to clash between themselves, the mullahs, the Pakistan IMF, IK, the nukes, all mixed into offtopic discussion

These fanatics would chose to bomb Tehran instead of Tel Aviv if they could do it, they were literally forcing users to see gore images (which are prohibited i think) of the death kids to appeal to emotions

There are no major increase of tension but Pakistan govt will surely see Iran in a different manner now, we only hope that a serious cooperation will be made to jointly remove terrorism in the cross borders provinces. There are no doubt that this place is abandoned and no one does anything serious to counter them

 

[tsunset]

Pakistani air strikes inside Iran kill 9 people, including 4 children and 3 women

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Iran claims all the victims were actually Pakistani, not Iranian.

How strange that Iranian ballistic missiles kill fewer civilians than supposedly precise air strikes

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We and they always mention the civilians, but how about the terrorists?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Pakistani jets flew 20km inside Iran to bomb targets 50km inside Iran, killing 9 civilians (including 4 children and 3 women)

How did our enemies interpret this?

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Exactly as I feared. And he is right. Soon we will see Iraqi jets inside Iranian territory bombing Iranian soil and killing civilians inside Iran, and some Iranians here will probably celebrate that as well. The ramifications of this are enormous.

The IRGC messed up hugely here, in every way. They severely harmed relations with a neighbour and destroyed their own credibility along with the myth of their red lines and Iranian sovereignty. If IRGC wanted to strike terrorists or actual Zionist bases, Azerbaijan and Afghanistan were much better options.

We must also admit that large parts of Sistan-Balochistan are indeed lawless and rife with terrorists, just as large parts on the Pakistani side are. This is a failure of Iranian security forces / leaders.

Pakistan is already surrounded by enemies and is borderline bankrupt, sustained by IMF and foreign aid. A smart response would be to pursue much stronger military / diplomatic relations with India. But instead IRI will prioritise the unity of the mythical Islamic ummah.

 

[Mr X]

IRGC f_cked up, we were all surprised when Pakistan FM released it
IRGC intentions was to probably send a message to Israel and GCC that they have no fear to strike somewhere else than inside Iraq, Syria (inside UAE, Bahrein or KSA for example). It was an idiotic move to chose Pakistan for this, it would be better if it was Talebans for example, they are serious threats to Iran in their nature and politics.

People says why Iran is attacking everything but Israel, the simple answer is that Israel does the exact same

And i can guarantee i have all the posts, no one here rejoiced over the 2 deaths, though people were rejoicing on the deaths of the retaliation, people with Saudi flags, i don't know if moderators can see deleted messages but there should be a ton of it, then users started to clash between themselves, the mullahs, the Pakistan IMF, IK, the nukes, all mixed into offtopic discussion

These fanatics would chose to bomb Tehran instead of Tel Aviv if they could do it, they were literally forcing users to see gore images (which are prohibited i think) of the death kids to appeal to emotions

There are no major increase of tension but Pakistan govt will surely see Iran in a different manner now, we only hope that a serious cooperation will be made to jointly remove terrorism in the cross borders provinces. There are no doubt that this place is abandoned and no one does anything serious to counter them

I think both the Pakistani PM (so-called) and the Iranian President/PM should meet immediately and hold a ceasefire. It is important to de-escalate for both nations. Peace is in favour of both nations and we must do anything to achieve that.

I can assure you that we banned so many users in the last 2 days which is 10% of the total bans we have implemented in the last 6 weeks and they came from all nationalities including Pakistanis. I will strictly enforce this as I will try to be online all day today and make sure that positive criticism is upheld but no personal attacks.

I will let you guys enjoy in the Chill Thread and focus on the main thread instead

 

[Mr X]

You mean "It is important to de-escalate for both nations" I hope!

yes the same, Thank you for point it out.

I don't read the message twice when typing on the phone

 

[mangekyo]

Exactly as I feared. And he is right. Soon we will see Iraqi jets inside Iranian territory bombing Iranian soil and killing civilians inside Iran, and some Iranians here will probably celebrate that as well. The ramifications of this are enormous.

The IRGC messed up hugely here, in every way. They severely harmed relations with a neighbour and destroyed their own credibility along with the myth of their red lines and Iranian sovereignty. If IRGC wanted to strike terrorists or actual Zionist bases, Azerbaijan and Afghanistan were much better options.

This is my exact point, and I dont understand why some Iranians laugh and think this is a joke.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Well guys its thursday night and tomorrow is friday

I have to go for some prayings

See u guys with a bit more moral energy later InshaAllah

 

[313Ghazi]

There are better ways to deal with that than launching unprovoked missile strikes on a sovereign country. Dont you agree? If not, let's break down what happened.

1. We showed them that if they dont do something about the terrorists in their country, we will launch missiles at them.

2. They showed us that if we launch missiles at them, they will bomb us back. And look at the PDF members, most Iranian PDF members did not celebrate the Iranian attacks. Their users are celebrating as if they conquered India. Do you think that country would hesitate using nukes against us?

3. Nobody dared attack us since the war with Iraq, Now Pakistan showed all our enemies; Israel, GCC, US, NATO etc. that striking us within our own borders is not that big of a deal after all. This will definitely encourage our enemies to attack us.

4. We added another country to the anti-Iranian US-GCC block. Well done.

What did we gain from it? Absolutely nothing. What did we lose? Everything.

I think if you look past the trolls, especially if you go onto Pakistani Twitter, you'll see that people are not celebrating this. A response from our side was required, because we couldn't run the risk of India (an actual enemy state) taking inaction as a sign that they could also do the same. They tried in Feb 2019 and got a response.

Pakistan resisted a lot of pressure from Gulf Arab states to join the Yemen conflict, we resisted a lot of pressure from the US to allow anti Iranian operations and to cut ties with Iran, this despite our leadership being thoroughly corrupt and inept.

In the minds of most Pakistani, both Pakistan and Iran lost the moment Iranian missiles landed in Pakistan. It's not just the disrepect, but the wider consequences, as you have pointed out - PAF strikes have potentially opened the door for other nations to potentially strike at Iranian territory. We have to deal with the same risk with India.

We all hope the way forward is de-escalation and actual meaningful border security on both sides of the border. So far for decades both sides have only commited rhetoric. The smuggling of drugs, weapons, fuel and humans has hurt both nations and filled the pockets of corrupt officials - ultimately leading to full blown national security threats. It needs to stop.

 

[Persian Gulf]

There are better ways to deal with that than launching unprovoked missile strikes on a sovereign country. Dont you agree? If not, let's break down what happened.

1. We showed them that if they dont do something about the terrorists in their country, we will launch missiles at them.

2. They showed us that if we launch missiles at them, they will bomb us back. And look at the PDF members, most Iranian PDF members did not celebrate the Iranian attacks. Their users are celebrating as if they conquered India. Do you think that country would hesitate using nukes against us?

3. Nobody dared attack us since the war with Iraq, Now Pakistan showed all our enemies; Israel, GCC, US, NATO etc. that striking us within our own borders is not that big of a deal after all. This will definitely encourage our enemies to attack us.

4. We added another country to the anti-Iranian US-GCC block. Well done.

What did we gain from it? Absolutely nothing. What did we lose? Everything.

Spot on analysis.

 

[Sarhang]

@Persian Gulf did you delete my post ?

 

[tsunset]

Pakistani jets flew 20km inside Iran to bomb targets 50km inside Iran, killing 9 civilians (including 4 children and 3 women)

How did our enemies interpret this?

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Exactly as I feared. And he is right. Soon we will see Iraqi jets inside Iranian territory bombing Iranian soil and killing civilians inside Iran, and some Iranians here will probably celebrate that as well. The ramifications of this are enormous.

The IRGC messed up hugely here, in every way. They severely harmed relations with a neighbour and destroyed their own credibility along with the myth of their red lines and Iranian sovereignty. If IRGC wanted to strike terrorists or actual Zionist bases, Azerbaijan and Afghanistan were much better options.

We must also admit that large parts of Sistan-Balochistan are indeed lawless and rife with terrorists, just as large parts on the Pakistani side are. This is a failure of Iranian security forces / leaders.

Pakistan is already surrounded by enemies and is borderline bankrupt, sustained by IMF and foreign aid. A smart response would be to pursue much stronger military / diplomatic relations with India. But instead IRI will prioritise the unity of the mythical Islamic ummah.

Imo this is wrong, if that does give ideas for the US and Israel, this would be a terrible miscalculation that would give Iran free nuclear weapons and retaliation

Pakistan is not an enemy of Iran, at least Iran doesn't see Pakistan the same as US/Israel

US/Israel objectives are not 50km cross borders using MRLSs but deep inside, and even if something offshore is hit by them, the response will not be the same, at least not "We condemn US strikes on Iran soil" and nothing, this benefits Iran as it could lure US and Israel into a terrible miscalculation that would hugely benefit Iran on the nuclear question and retaliation

 

[tsunset]

@Persian Gulf did you delete my post ?

This is not a place for twitter/Reddit traitors/hasbara insulting Iran and spreading conspiracy theories with the same words such as "Mullah regime funded by US" "Good move from Pakistan", go on Reddit if you don't like it, there are no Uncle Toms here

 

[Sarhang]

This is not a place for twitter/Reddit traitors/hasbara insulting Iran and spreading conspiracy theories with the same words such as "Mullah regime funded by US" "Good move from Pakistan", go on Reddit if you don't like it, there are no Uncle Toms here

Mullah regime is not equal to Iran. Former is an occupying entity since 1979. It's obvious me and you do not agree on this issue. Since you feel offended by mullah regime term and quickly delete posts critical of your point of view I will let it go.

Edit- made a mistake replying to you. My post was meant for the moderator.

 

[spammmmer]

Its a deep and complicated game played by iran and united states.
Iran as a state is very cunning and intelligent there are deep networks of mutual understanding and protocols exist between usa and iran.
Iran is a trojan horse of usa utilised for keeping check on whole of middle east including israel.
israel is a partner of usa but will work according to its will its not a lapdog of usa.
problem arises when some rogue elements created by usa and iran bites them in the back like isis bombing in iran.
strikes in syria and iraq was necessary as they are the strong holds of rogue elements.
But the main reasons why pakistan was bombed was because of two reasons.

1. Current political and economic turmoil makes pakistan a very soft target as compared to going for israel or saudi arabia directly. Strikes in pakistan give a stern warning to the other countries about iran capabilities.

2. usa gave the nod to iran for the strikes to try a false cry for help with pakistan to tackle iran as pakistan surely realising the double face nature of usa is moving to chinese camp.

pakistan retaliation was not expected of this magnitude buy iran and certainly is not helpful for the regions peace. Both iran and pakistan are very experienced in covert warfare and further attacks will take place in covert manner only.

All in all its a bad decision of irani regime and can cost them badly in future.
regarding pakistan its the same old story of attacks and retaliation goes on in neighbouring countries.
America will defintely try to lure pakistan against iran.

 

[mangekyo]

Imo this is wrong, if that does give ideas for the US and Israel, this would be a terrible miscalculation that would give Iran free nuclear weapons and retaliation

Pakistan is not an enemy of Iran, at least Iran doesn't see Pakistan the same as US/Israel

US/Israel objectives are not 50km cross borders using MRLSs but deep inside, and even if something offshore is hit by them, the response will not be the same, at least not "We condemn US strikes on Iran soil" and nothing, this benefits Iran as it could lure US and Israel into a terrible miscalculation that would hugely benefit Iran on the nuclear question and retaliation

No, it shows that our leaders only have one remaining red line left, and that is to stay in power. And we don't even know how we would respond if that last remaining red line were crossed. Killing our scientists, our allies and generals, hurting our economy or conducting air strikes on our soil is not a red line. Thats a terrible message to send, with or without having nuclear arms.