Iranian Chill Thread

Persian Gulf said:
are you sure about that?
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relative to objective facts, i'm not sure, but relative to Pakistani govt's border security and preparation, hell yes- Iran has done probably 5-10X more on the Iran-Pakistan border than Paksitan has done. Iran started support Baloch terrorists against Pakistan because Pakistan left Iran no option to counter the terrorists that US and Saudis were funding on Pakistan soil against Iran.
Persian Gulf said:
just recently a IRGC colonel was assassinated in public in Sistan-Balochistan
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1 or a few security incidents dont tell the full picture, we have to look at the entire context- that border region is huge and desolate- security is also relative, it depends on many dynamics and contexts. Terrorism happens on Pakistan's side of the border daily, but on Iran's side its occasionally,and that only increase recently because : 1. Taliban took over in Afghanistan and 2. Pakistan's govt was bought out by US, so Pakistan is now a proxy for US, just like ISIS was a proxy, so Pakistani territory, minorities like Balochs and Jaish ul adl and Jundollah, etc are being used against Iran.
Persian Gulf said:
many many other cases

we cannot pretend every one of these cases is because of terrorists who live in Pakistan who cross into Iran, somehow kill a high ranking IRGC member/official (by luck and no planning?), then flee back into Pakistan
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sure. I think Iran didnt militarize its border with Pakistan because historically it hasn't had too much terrorist activity on the border it couldn't manage with border guards and police, but now that it seems the Pakistani state aka its military is involved in insecurity and terrorism on the Iran-Pakistan border, Iran will have to militarize and beef up its border with Pakistan, just watch. Especially with the recent Pakistani retaliation missile and drone attacks? Its a new day in Iran- Pakistan relations and border and military dynamics- Iran knows Islam is a mask that Pakistan is using now to say its Iran's friend.
Persian Gulf said:
We have a lot of work to do to clean up our side of the border and we should focus on this, and on controlling the border better. That border is a porous disaster, but most of our borders are the same...
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Sure, Iran can do more. But even US the "supapawa" cant secure its Mexico border that well but the world says it has the best military and military tech on earth.
 
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@jauk you see the cost of not establishing proper deterrence.

Striking Spy dens in Kurdistan is not effective deterrence.
 
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@jauk you see the cost of not establishing proper deterrence.

Striking Spy dens in Kurdistan is not effective deterrence.
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There is no effective deterrence as long as long as Israel is fully backed by the Western and Arab world.
 
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@jauk you see the cost of not establishing proper deterrence.

Striking Spy dens in Kurdistan is not effective deterrence.
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This much is as much an issue of operational security as deterrence. Where’s security?
 
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@jauk you see the cost of not establishing proper deterrence.

Striking Spy dens in Kurdistan is not effective deterrence.
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You know I’m not big on making the world go into a mini world war 3 but I think if your soldiers are killed you have proper reason to attack another nations military personnel(see if those new hypersonic missiles can destroy Israeli bases airbases), it seems the Israelis are playing offense but the Iranians are barely playing defense. Now we are not including hezbollah or Houthi or any other so-called proxy we are talking about iran has been getting hammered inside of iran and outside of iran remember wasn’t to long when the Israelis recently took credit for bombing a drone factory in iran I think if another country admits attacking another country that gives the other country pretense for attacking the other country.
 
jauk said:
This much is as much an issue of operational security as deterrence. Where’s security?
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Sources claiming 2 IRGC (likely Quds force or engineers linked to IRGC) officers killed in US strikes in Yemen.

Escalation is rising.
 
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Sources claiming 2 IRGC (likely Quds force or engineers linked to IRGC) officers killed in US strikes in Yemen.

Escalation is rising.
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"Private source"
 
jauk said:
. Where’s security?
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I followed Syrian civil war closely back in the day. Finding IRGC in Syria could be done by an average civilian let alone an intelligence service. Iranians stick out in Syria and they can blow operational security. I remember watching a video of them in a beat up sedan driving near the frontlines and they were laughing and saying that terrorists have fire control of this highway and they could be shot at any moment. This was back in the day when Damascus and Homs had severe terrorist grouped entrenched in various suburbs.

IRGC are just built different. I don’t think mossad has to work too hard to find out where they are inside Syria, it’s well known. Sure if your someone like Ghanni you probably take Op sec seriously, but your typical IRGC advisor or officer prob doesn’t care.

There is two camps within IRGC, people who quit Tehrani Moghdams team because he didn’t take safety precautions seriously and they were genuinely considered for their lives and the ones who just didn’t care if they became shaheed and stuck alongside him.
 
Shadihassan28 said:
You know I’m not big on making the world go into a mini world war 3 but I think if your soldiers are killed you have proper reason to attack another nations military personnel(see if those new hypersonic missiles can destroy Israeli bases airbases), it seems the Israelis are playing offense but the Iranians are barely playing defense. Now we are not including hezbollah or Houthi or any other so-called proxy we are talking about iran has been getting hammered inside of iran and outside of iran remember wasn’t to long when the Israelis recently took credit for bombing a drone factory in iran I think if another country admits attacking another country that gives the other country pretense for attacking the other country.
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How has Iran been getting hammered inside Iran?
 
tsunset said:
"Private source"
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On the night Solemani got assainated, US also tried to kill head of Quds force in Yemen. He escaped and has escaped assassination. US is still after him and I believe the last article I read he is now stationed in Tehran due to threat level against him.

While US isn’t as adventurous as Israel in assassinating IRGC abroad, US will do it if they think it will dent Iran.

Tehrani021 said:
How has Iran been getting hammered inside Iran?
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Rarely has Iran been getting hammered inside Iran. The assassinations that did happen were done by hit squads or using explosive quadcopters.

It’s hard for Iran to provide coverage to every IRGC and Artesh member inside Iran. But I do believe they can provide more armoured vehicles. I have rarely seen an Iranian officer killed and he was in an armoured vehicle. Most of them are in normal civilian vehicles.

I have seen armoured Mercedes for VIPs when I been in Tehran but those usually belong to high level government officials.
 
Immortals said:
On the night Solemani got assainated, US also tried to kill head of Quds force in Yemen. He escaped and has escaped assassination. US is still after him and I believe the last article I read he is now stationed in Tehran due to threat level against him.

While US isn’t as adventurous as Israel in assassinating IRGC abroad, US will do it if they think it will dent Iran.



Rarely has Iran been getting hammered inside Iran. The assassinations that did happen were done by hit squads or using explosive quadcopters.

It’s hard for Iran to provide coverage to every IRGC and Artesh member inside Iran. But I do believe they can provide more armoured vehicles. I have rarely seen an Iranian officer killed and he was in an armoured vehicle. Most of them are in normal civilian vehicles.

I have seen armoured Mercedes for VIPs when I been in Tehran but those usually belong to high level government officials.
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Yeah I think our fellow Palestinian resident was looking for a soundbite, but I knew he was talking nonsense. Nothing gets passed me.
 
Tehrani021 said:
A) that isnt what I would call "hammered", spare me the hyperbolic language.

B) that is a claim which Iran denies, but be my guest and take Israel's word for it.
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Okay nuclear scientists(through assassins or Mossad agents) military officials who have been killed inside iran again by Mossad agents or Kurds hired by Israel . Constantly having top men killed in Syria yes it starts to add up as being hammered. All I’m saying iran actually has the right to respond you hit a valid military target f 35 base or actual Mossad headquarters kudos
 
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