Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[tsunset]

And how did those UAVs get to the point of launch?

Stop deviating, do you work for CENTCOM also? What is this pulsion of distorting everything?

They shot down 3 UAVs coming from Yemen, like people care if these UAVs are Iranian-made or not, which probably isn't even the case since Yemen has plenty of UAV factories

This is like hearing Putin saying: "We destroyed 3 German tanks" or Zelensky saying "We shot down 100 Iranian UAVs"

Complete nonsense and you will never admit it, CENTCOM participates in confusing people to make their own idea based on real facts, not distortion or nonsensical words they are compulsively using such as "Shia backed militias" or "We shot down 3 Iranian UAVs", the AshCM should also be Iranian but no, placed "Iranian" at "UAVs", nice attempt

 

[VCheng]

They shot down 3 UAVs coming from Yemen

Okay then. So by that logic, if Iran is attacked by three drones or missiles launched from Qatar or Bahrain, Iran should not call it a US attack?

 

[tsunset]

The CENTCOM doesn't even respect their own killed soldier

I would love that these 3 soldiers wouldn't have been killed and seeing their reaction to this statement

 

[VCheng]

The CENTCOM doesn't even respect their own killed soldier

I would love that these 3 soldiers wouldn't have been killed and seeing their reaction to this statement

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Please clarify what part in that statement do you find disrespectful?

 

[tsunset]

Okay then. So by that logic, if Iran is attacked by three drones or missiles launched from Qatar or Bahrain, Iran should not call it a US attack?

Drones/anything coming from X is an attack from X, funded by Y

CENTCOM doesn't do this math, it skips the part of where these drones came from (Houthi factories) and the launch point of them (Yemen), it does "We shot down drones of X origin" or just literal nonsense to confuse people into thinking they have been launched from Iran

When i simply tell you "We shot down American drones"
while the drones came from let's say Saudi Arabia, from the Saudi army


Doesn't that make you think the drones were launched by the US?

The worst part is that those drones are probably made inside Yemen, not shipped in mass with a cargo ship

 

[VCheng]

Drones/anything coming from X is an attack from X, funded by Y

So you want CENTCOM to identify Iran as the sponsor of such attacks? Would that be okay with you?

 

[tsunset]

Please clarify what part in that statement do you find disrespectful?

Isn't saying to three i quote "Army Reserve assigned to an Engineering unit." families that just lost their beloved that they "made the ultimate sacrifice while serving their country in Jordan" like a slap to the face of them?

 

[VCheng]

Isn't saying to three i quote "Army Reserve assigned to an Engineering unit." families that just lost their beloved that they "made the ultimate sacrifice while serving their country in Jordan" like a slap to the face of them?

But their assignment was indeed as described. How can that be perceived as being disrespectful? Their ultimate sacrifice is for their own country, it just happened to made in Jordan, as assignments and deployments can be global. Again, factually correct, and not disrespectful at all.

 

[tsunset]

So you want CENTCOM to identify Iran as the sponsor of such attacks? Would that be okay with you?

CENTCOM only does it when it arranges them, strangely the AshCM isn't "Iranian" and has been launched from Yemen coasts, but the UAVs are Iranian and no location is disclosed for some reason

CENTCOM identifies any attack on their troops in the region as Iranian sponsored and "terrorism", as there are no way in the world that Iraqis or Syrians/Yemenis would target them while violating countless times their countries

CENTCOM in 1982 identified an attack killing 300 marines in Lebanon as a "terrorist attack" (yes, terrorist attacks on marines stationed illegally in a foreign country

I give you the challenge of giving me a single CENTCOM statement related to the targeting of their troops in West Asia where they do not link it to Iran

 

[VCheng]

I give you the challenge of giving me a single CENTCOM statement related to the targeting of their troops in West Asia where they do not link it to Iran

And I am supposed to assume that they are not factually correct when linking it to Iran?

 

[tsunset]

And I am supposed to assume that they are not factually correct when linking it to Iran?

The problem isn't if they are correct or not, the problem is how they dehumanize the whole region using Iran as a way to disguise their violation of other countries such as Iraq and Syria

Iran is used to hide Syrian and Iraqi deaths
Iran is used to hide Yemeni deaths
Iran is used as a scapegoat for what they are doing in the region

You wouldn't say that for US sponsored groups such as Komala or FSA, they describe them as "freedom fighters", Bin Laden was also a freedom fighter at the time, a freedom fighter which cost the lives of thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Pakistanis, as well as completely ruining the childhood of Pakistanis and the prosperity of it

Iran gives the opportunity to their historical brothers (both culturally and religiously) to defend themselves and their own brothers from foreign agressions and dangerous radical groups such as ISIS/Al Qaeda/Salafi groups and sellouts of foreigners.

 

[VCheng]

The problem isn't if they are correct or not, the problem is how they dehumanize the whole region using Iran as a way to disguise their violation of other countries such as Iraq and Syria

Iran is used to hide Syrian and Iraqi deaths
Iran is used to hide Yemeni deaths
Iran is used as a scapegoat for what they are doing in the region

You wouldn't say that for US sponsored groups such as Komala or FSA, they describe them as "freedom fighters", Bin Laden was also a freedom fighter at the time, a freedom fighter which cost the lives of thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Pakistanis, as well as completely ruining the childhood of Pakistanis and the prosperity of it

Iran gives the opportunity to their historical brothers (both culturally and religiously) to defend themselves and their own brothers from foreign agressions and dangerous radical groups such as ISIS/Al Qaeda/Salafi groups and sellouts of foreigners.

You do raise important questions, but that requires an open mind to discuss properly. Based on just - and only that - what you have posted above:

How is Iran used to hide anything or describe as a scapegoat to assign blame for deaths in Syria, Iraq and Yemen?

Your points about what USA is doing in the region, and whether USA is dehumanizing anyone is more a matter of perception, depending on one's own views.

My approach to such questions is always to start with avoiding a basic mistake: Personal ethical, moral and emotional factors belong in a different frame of reference than international geopolitics. And the frames of reference for geopolitics do not apply to personal domains.

If you or anyone else can avoid that mistake, then I believe we can have a rational discussion, but not otherwise.

 

[tsunset]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-guards-pull-officers-syria-after-israeli-strikes-2024-02-01/

Reuters is actively posting fake news these times, twice in a week

As well as Newsweek

 

[tsunset]

You do raise important questions, but that requires an open mind to discuss properly. Based on just - and only that - what you have posted above:

How is Iran used to hide anything or describe as a scapegoat to assign blame for deaths in Syria, Iraq and Yemen?

Your points about what USA is doing in the region, and whether USA is dehumanizing anyone is more a matter of perception, depending on one's own views.

My approach to such questions is always to start with avoiding a basic mistake: Personal ethical, moral and emotional factors belong in a different frame of reference than international geopolitics. And the frames of reference for geopolitics do not apply to personal domains.

If you or anyone else can avoid that mistake, then I believe we can have a rational discussion, but not otherwise.

The United States is an ally of Iraq (government), therefore it is preferable for them to say that "Iranian affiliated people have been killed" than "Iraqis have been killed"
The same process is applied on Syria, but in this case they aim to soft power Syrians since the Syrian govt isn't an ally of the US which illegally occupies its country

It is preferable to say that your enemy affiliated group died that "Syrians and Iraqis died", this quote will bring anger toward the Iraqi and Syrian population

What CENTCOM is doing is dehumanizing Iraqis and Syrians on the behalf of Iran
Though no one can blame them, every country in the world in times of war will spread such things even for Iran, propaganda is propaganda and it differs from level of ethicality, reality and quality

 

[tsunset]

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