Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

I agree. I believe, however, a logical extension of current results provides a pretty stark outlook for Iran’s opponents. That being said, on the battlefield chessboard her opponents have things up their sleeve too.

I’m confident all this is being considered and absorbed in Iranian war gaming.

I also believe that Iran’s opponents continue to not only underestimate Iran technically but intellectually as well. Good.

I hope this weapon testing leads to different ASHCM as the basis for future naval warfare for Iran.

The C-802 era of CMs are just not competitive outside of swarm scenarios against military vessels. Iran has been testing against US battleships (cruisers/destroyers) since Yemen war.

Iran needs supersonic maneuvering ASHCM to be ready. They could already be ready and they just haven’t unveiled it yet to the world.

But C-802 based CMs despite the numerous generations spent on improving the warheads/seekers/range/resistance to EW/etc are still subsonic traditional trajectory CMs.
 
Is it at the bottom of the sea?
did you get your take on this from the BBC coping
Hundreds if not 1000+ ships past thru the Red Sea and Arabian Sea on a near constant basis.

If you only managed to hit a “few”, that is statistically not significant. Iran managed to hit a “few” back in the era of silk worms and Cold War radars.
huge volume of shipping diverted from bab al mandab strait - you didn't mention this
There is not a navy in the world that could protect every ship along a massive coastline and narrow water way. Not happening. If roles were reversed and Iran had the strength and size of US Navy they too would put up similar effort.

So all in all, the US navy has actually performed well. Given they have to cover hundreds of commercial ships in a major body of water from anything as small as a tiny drone to ASHBM.

It’s the US airforce that has performed somewhat poorly in not being able to degrade Houthi anti shipping capability enough. That is not a suprise given that Saudi Arabia wasn’t able to do it for the entire Yemen war using US targeting data and intelligence.
USAF sorties have been very limited so far

the number of ships to defend is high but the area in which to defend them is not so large, if each US destroyer has even 100km range AD it should easily be able to cover the entire area
 
I agree. I believe, however, a logical extension of current results provides a pretty stark outlook for Iran’s opponents. That being said, on the battlefield chessboard her opponents have things up their sleeve too.

I’m confident all this is being considered and absorbed in Iranian war gaming.

I also believe that Iran’s opponents continue to not only underestimate Iran technically but intellectually as well. Good.
Really Houthis don't need to sink or kill nobody. Someone posted an article calling unsustainable rate of firing ESSM II and SM2, that are killing the US Navy budget. Putin must be rubbing his hands like a fly in summer.
 
I hope this weapon testing leads to different ASHCM as the basis for future naval warfare for Iran.

The C-802 era of CMs are just not competitive outside of swarm scenarios against military vessels. Iran has been testing against US battleships (cruisers/destroyers) since Yemen war.

Iran needs supersonic maneuvering ASHCM to be ready. They could already be ready and they just haven’t unveiled it yet to the world.

But C-802 based CMs despite the numerous generations spent on improving the warheads/seekers/range/resistance to EW/etc are still subsonic traditional trajectory CMs.
In addition to any supersonic cruise missile, Iran could also develop very low radar and IR signature missiles. Like taurus/scalp/jassm but in anti ship version. Those would be used in volleys with supersonic and legacy noor/ghadir missiles. It will save money instead of only build supersonic missiles. Even after some initial hit, further noor/ghadir can finish the job.

It should not be very difficult make some supersonic missiles. In fact it was quoted somewhere that Iran was interested in some Bastion-P batteries. But those are just rumors. Anyway Josif Biden will need sleeping pills if he continues supporting this killing spree.
 
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That is the way. Pretty good. Cooperation instead of punishing reciprocally.
 
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should make a separate thread for this if there are sufficient credible news stories about it
 
In addition to any supersonic cruise missile, Iran could also develop very low radar and IR signature missiles. Like taurus/scalp/jassm but in anti ship version.

There was the Mobin CM with an RCS of .1

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I am not sure if it ever got mass produced. Iran showing it off at arms expos but never at a war game points to not having gained major arms contracts from anyone within armed services.

Also haven’t seen the “Ya Ali” cruise missile outside of prototype testing.

Those would be used in volleys with supersonic and legacy noor/ghadir missiles. It will save money instead of only build supersonic missiles. Even after some initial hit, further noor/ghadir can finish the job.

The noor/ghadir family is just not deadly enough these days. You have to remember it is based on 30 year old cruise missile at this point.

It’s better to move production to a cheaper more versatile “cannon fodder” CM.

It should not be very difficult make some supersonic missiles. In fact it was quoted somewhere that Iran was interested in some Bastion-P batteries.

Iran has been attempting Supersonic cruise missiles for a while. The US is moving to hypersonic cruise missile and thinks that will ultimately be the “ultimate” strike weapon versus hypersonic glide vehicles that BMs use.

The issue for Iran and it’s more limited military budget is building a cheap enough yet versatile supersonic engine to power these future CMs.

Many projects don’t get approved in Iran not because they can’t be built, but the economics simply don’t make sense for Iran. Iran is not into the “fancy toys” philosophy. So ultra high end weapons systems that don’t provide enough cost value typically rarely get to mass productionyou
 

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Pakistan isn’t a “friend of Iran” by any means. So this news here doesn’t change anything.

I want to point out There is discussions that Pakistan will sell 50+ J-17 Block III to Azerbaijan in a massive multi billion dollar deal.

If these allegations are true. Than Iran should take reciprocal actions. Could you imagine if Iran sold major weapon systems to India for example? Or Afghanistan?

The Pakistan users on this board would lose their minds at the “brotherly” betrayal and go on their usual “use nukes” rants.
 
Pakistan isn’t a “friend of Iran” by any means. So this news here doesn’t change anything.

I want to point out There is discussions that Pakistan will sell 50+ J-17 Block III to Azerbaijan in a massive multi billion dollar deal.

If these allegations are true. Than Iran should take reciprocal actions. Could you imagine if Iran sold major weapon systems to India for example? Or Afghanistan?

The Pakistan users on this board would lose their minds at the “brotherly” betrayal and go on their usual “use nukes” rants.

It hasn't sunk though--all's well:

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Will eventually make a great artificial reef
 
huge volume of shipping diverted from bab al mandab strait - you didn't mention this

No meaningful impact on global economy. So not as “huge” impact wise as you like to allude to. Maybe for Israeli trade, not global trade.

USAF sorties have been very limited so far

Saudis weree doing hundreds of sorties a day and couldn’t put a dent into Houthi capabilities. So it doesn’t matter what USAF does they don’t possess the capability to permanently degrade Houthi missile capability via airstrike alone.

Houthi’s are not Hamas. You have a massive mountainous territory with an adversary who has been in on and off war for most of its life. Houthi’s are some of the best “off the street” warrior force on the planet.

if each US destroyer has even 100km range AD it should easily be able to cover the entire area

You mean like the billion dollar US destroyers that collided with massive commercial ships in peace time? Not once, but multiple times?

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Or did You mean like the numerous Patriot systems that should have “easily” detected the Iranian attack on Armaco?

Or the numerous Ukrainian radars and Russian radars that should have “easily” captured the respective incoming attacks on each other’s soil?

Lay down the video games and realize war isn’t based on brochures handed out at military expos.

A majority of Houthi munitions have indeed been shot down this is facts not conjecture, but no radar on the planet can “easily cover” an entire area as you say. Radar isn’t magic, it’s radiation and waves as you well know.

Not to mention they cannot violate the laws of physics either. The earth is curved so ship based radars have limitations to their azimuth and angle of the radars projection just like ground based radars.

Low flying drones and CMs can effectively fly “under the radar” if Iran floating bases are able to pass real time Intel to Houthi’s on the ground about where a commercial ship is in relation to a guarding Western warship. The further away it is the less likely it will stop a drone or CM. Hence why ”some” attacks will get thru.

That is also why a US Navy ship had to use its CWIS to shoot down some cruise missiles recently because it “got past” its long range radar. But by and large no US navy ship has been seriously targeted. I doubt Iranian IRGC want to open that can of worms especially after what happen with the US soldiers that died in Jordan.
 
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