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Tbh, the last round still baffles, all Iran had to was keep firing Shaheen drones every keep the IAF busy in defending their skies from these drones and than 2-3 volleys of ballistic missile per they couldn't even do, preemptive strikes are out of their league.

What is the connection between fighter jets and interception of BMs ?

Also you do realize that BM or CM fired from Iran is already Searched and Tracked by US land, sea and space based worlds most advanced active and passive censors and data is real time transferred to Israeli ABM and AD layers so they just have to shoot at incoming projectile without even tracking the RVs. Still IRGCASF managed to do Tit for Tat strikes. Do you seriously think in this environment we face where superpower is providing active Jammings and Tracking data to Layered AD while Arab states are using their airforces to engage Iranian drones, we can launch Shaheds to "keep IAF busy" as you put it ?

After all their talk the biggest volley they could fire was 100 or so missiles during the war and after that it kept declining

FIrst wave was 200 BM strong so you are wrong there.

Maximum damage, casualties, tit-for-tat (Bazan, Weizzmann, Gav Nev, Eshkol, Soroka) happened during the last phase which led to ceasefire and Israel not attacking anything critical again after being responded. You should read more.
 
What is the connection between fighter jets and interception of BMs ?

Also you do realize that BM or CM fired from Iran is already Searched and Tracked by US land, sea and space based worlds most advanced active and passive censors and data is real time transferred to Israeli ABM and AD layers so they just have to shoot at incoming projectile without even tracking the RVs. Still IRGCASF managed to do Tit for Tat strikes. Do you seriously think in this environment we face where superpower is providing active Jammings and Tracking data to Layered AD while Arab states are using their airforces to engage Iranian drones, we can launch Shaheds to "keep IAF busy" as you put it ?
Those jets were firing munitions at Iran that's the connection


Maximum damage, casualties, tit-for-tat (Bazan, Weizzmann, Gav Nev, Eshkol, Soroka) happened during the last phase which led to ceasefire and Israel not attacking anything critical again after being responded. You should read more.

What about ur entire high command being wiped out?
 
Considering that Jeffery Lewis identified Fattah-1 used even in TP2 let alone in war where it was seen many times, I see no reason to speculate that its not mass produced. Why would not IRGCASF produce its most prized weapon ? Why was Fattah-2 abandoned, my guess would be as good as yours but if I have to think, I would say it was Hajizadeh's brainchild and it died with him. Mousavi may have his own ideas just Hajizadeh had his own ones from Moghaddam. Mousavi is kinda extremely quiet type as well compared to Media Loving Hajizadeh.

Also Sejil-II is actual designation of the missile, the Sejil-I and Ashura were its prototypes perhaps. Its produced in good numbers, used in war and IMO (I have no proof) its disfavored for further production if Ghaem series SLV => IRBM/ICBM route is actually taken. Similarly, K-4 as cluster munitioned PBV turned out to the real product of K-1,2 and K-3(MaRVed) protoypes. Logical.



I would disagree because Tehrani Moghaddam's work was around heavy solid fuel engines that birthed Sejil-II, Rafay solid fuel engines in Zoljaneh and Ghaem SLVs. While Sleek precision MaRVs we see in bulk driven from Fateh family today is work of Hajizadeh including Fattah-1, KS, Haj Qsem family and Qasim Basir (most advanced) of the group. Fateh series was born under Moghaddam but Hajizadeh cultivated it to extremes. Skip Glide/Quasi Ballistics, Hypersonic, Endo/Exo MaRVs, PBV, Terminal guidance is all work of Hajizadeh.



Ironically Shahab family was from Moghaddam times. In its purist form, Shahab-3C was last of the series that died with or around Moghaddam. Today we do have two MRBM descendants in form of Ghadr-F with an Exo+Endo atmospheric MaRV and Emad/Etemad with a CPRA ECM patch and MaRV. Another speculated member of the family is TELed Qassed SLV with a solid kickoffstage.



Disagred, based upon dias which point to engine origin, Iranian missiles/SLVs have 5 families. The list only includes the missile we know have been produced and are seen in high numbers in excersizes or used in actual battle.

Ashura (Prototype) => Sejil-I (Prototype) => Sejil-II (Produced) => Zoljaneh SLV (Produced) => Ghaem SLV (Produced) => Ghaem 105 accused ICBM ??

R-27/Musudan => K-1/2 (Prototype) => K-3 MaRV (Produced ?) => K-4 PBV (Produced)

Shahab 3C (Retired) => Ghadr-F Exo+Endo atmospheric MaRV (Produced) => Qassed SLV.

Shahab 3C (Retired) => Emad MarV (Produced) => Etemad with CPRA ECM patch and MaRV (Produced)

Shahab-2 (Retired) => Qiam 1/2 MaRV (Produced/Retired ?)

Fateh series => Fateh 313 => Persian Gulf AShBM, FatehMobin => Dezful => Raad-500 => Zolfaghar/Zolfaghar Basir AShBM => Haj Qasem (All produced)

Kheybar Shikan 1 => Kheybar Shikan 2 => Fattah Hyperonic MaRV => Qasim Basir EO/IR MaRV (All produced)



Actually, reality is very different if you count the engine types.

1) They have one for KS/Fattah family
2) One for Fateh driven family
3) Rafay for Sejil and its driven SLVs
4) One for K-3/4
5) One for Emad/Ghadr-F/Etemad, Qased SLV
6) Then we have separate MaRVs/PBVs propulsions and SLV Kick offstages (Salman, Vahab etc).

Like fighter jet engines, missile engines are not numerous either. If one model is performing fine with required ISP, why would they need to waste money of changing it ? I would rather have them strictly stick to just 2-3 types.



Considering the missile program is the deterent and main offensive weapon of IRI in conflicts or wars, I would not call it stagnation. IRGCASF had other areas to focus on as well such as new bases, excavating storage units, underground bases. Yes IRGCASF and ISA both failed in Soleimani LEO constellation plan (as of yet), they have not produced reliable ALBMs or actual supersonic LACMs but considering that its a sanctioned group, the progress they made and war they fought solely points to them being a sound force. Compare them to corrupt clowns IRIAF had for last 25 years for example.

If you are strictly asking for where the money went then Khamenei gave 500+ Billion USD to Arab militias to fight Israel. God knows what did he want but there goes the budget.
Well Ballistic missiles are something that is out of my well known fields. But IMO after Mr. Mogaddham many improvements have been achieved. From carbon fiber cases to very good third stage engines to new guidance systems.
Compact and VLS packed solid fueled missile seems also very important.
A very well known YT Channel Deep Dove Defense was talking about Qaem100 missile as a revolutionary compact and portable ICBM.
I would know your oppinion about those achievements. 🤔
 
Those jets were firing munitions at Iran that's the connection

Thats actually a bogus connection, IRGC's missiles fight against US and Israel's cooperated ABM/AD shield. IAF has nothing to do with it. Even if we had an Airforce of 700 SU-35S, the IRGCASF's missiles will still be fighting against the same shield. And btw your entire logic is stupid because in TP1, TP2, TP3 IRGC did fire away hundreds of Shaheds including the jet powererd ones, you know what happened ? USAF, French, British, Jordanian Airforces engaged them even before they reached Israel so please dont act like you know more than people in charge.

Maximum damage, casualties, tit-for-tat (Bazan, Weizzmann, Gav Nev, Eshkol, Soroka) happened during the last phase which led to ceasefire and Israel not attacking anything critical again after being responded. You should read more.

What about ur entire high command being wiped out?

What about US and Israeli goals of capturing half a tonne HEU, changing regime, destroying IRGC, deterring IRGC, have absolute zero penetrations of Iranian missiles into Israeli Airspace ? because none of that was achieved on their end either. We are fighting against a Hyperpower + Armed to Teeth Regional power that controls it. They have 30+ Trillion USD in their hands and first world Tech at their disposal in bulk whenever they want, still zero goals of their were achieved and sanctioned to crippled ends IRGC shattered the Israeli myth of invincibility, kept firing to the last minute. Also the generals lost were not entire High command otherwise who fought with this super armed enemy for next 12 days?
 
Well Ballistic missiles are something that is out of my well known fields. But IMO after Mr. Mogaddham many improvements have been achieved. From carbon fiber cases to very good third stage engines to new guidance systems.
Compact and VLS packed solid fueled missile seems also very important.
A very well known YT Channel Deep Dove Defense was talking about Qaem100 missile as a revolutionary compact and portable ICBM.
I would know your oppinion about those achievements. 🤔

Those achievements are good to exert dominance over regional enemies but not enough to deter US+Israel.

IRGC actually started work on ICBMs from 90s when Shahab-4 were conceptualized and even put on TELs according to SAT images. They made a breakthrough with Sejjil when a powerful Solid fueled dual staged MRBM or borderline IRBM was already in Iranian hands in mid 2000s. Instead of openly taking the DPRK route for lofted ICBMs and open nukes, IRI succumbed to Khamanei's politics over nuclear program. He ordered missile ranges to be limited to 2000 KM. Lol IRGC had to come up with compensated higher warhead sizes to disguise Sejjil and Khorramshahr's ranges to keep them within limit on paper. The plans were disguised into tristaged SLVs. Today Iran has a worldclass missile program but it refused to grow out of that only because of Khamenei led immaturity. He should have chosen absolute deterence in mid 2000s instead of allowing international politicising of nuclear and missile program at the hands of Ahamadinejad.
 
Iran has strengthened its ballistic missile capabilities since the war against Israel (Iranian Ministry of Defense)

The spokesman for the Iranian Ministry of Defense claims that the country possesses missiles that are more advanced and powerful than those used in the Twelve Day War with the Israeli regime in June 2025.

Brigadier General Reza Talaei-Nik stated on Saturday, January 24, that since the end of the war against Israel in late June, Iran has not only increased the capability and performance of its missiles, but has also increased their number.

"The quantitative and qualitative capabilities of Iran's ballistic missile force have improved compared to the imposed Twelve Day War, and the country's missile defense system has been strengthened and made more effective thanks to the experience gained during that conflict," he said.

General Talaei-Nik added that Iran has developed sophisticated ballistic missile capabilities to counter new threats, while emphasizing that the country will keep these advancements confidential in order to surprise the enemy at the opportune moment.

He categorically rejected recent threats of military attacks against Iran, asserting that the enemy's hesitant rhetoric toward Iran demonstrates its fear of Iran's defensive capabilities and ballistic missile power.

It is worth noting that Iranian missiles used in the war against Israel inflicted considerable damage on the regime, striking numerous military and economic targets in the occupied territories with high precision. According to military experts, it was this same destructive impact of Iranian missile strikes that led the United States to pressure the regime into agreeing to a ceasefire on June 24.

Currently, Iranian military officials and commanders are warning that the country will use its substantial ballistic missile arsenal against US-linked targets in the region if Washington launches aggressive attacks against Tehran
Press TV
 
The range of Iranian ballistic missiles:
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and a picture from Netanyahu's memories:
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Hajizadeh and Bagheri --> Mousavi and Mousavi

Mousavis visited a new SSM base and showed an image of a Khorramshahr missile inside the base

a video was supposed to be released from their visit, but it was cancelled at Mousavi's request
 
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Hajizadeh and Bagheri --> Mousavi and Mousavi

Mousavis visited a new SSM base and showed an image of a Khorramshahr missile inside the base

a video was supposed to be released from their visit, but it was cancelled at Mousavi's request


Good.
Act first, bragging comes after.

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Everyone underestimated Pakistanis AD capabilities until crunch time.

I almost think whoever is advising generals in Iran to constantly release videos of underground missile cities and other strategic assets is a mole, compromising them on purpose.
 
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Hajizadeh and Bagheri --> Mousavi and Mousavi

Mousavis visited a new SSM base and showed an image of a Khorramshahr missile inside the base

a video was supposed to be released from their visit, but it was cancelled at Mousavi's request


What is the point of these propaganda clips of generals walking these missile halls? To your point Hajizadeh and Bagheri did the same thing and we know what happened at the golden hour. This was what I liked about Solemani, you didn’t see these promotional videos all the time. It was either him on the frontlines advising or giving a speech at a military academy. Ghaani is also more on the quiet side.

The U.S. already has intel on these bases and missile numbers. If they know where Hajizadeh and Bagheri went to meet and sabotaged that location, then surely they don’t need to be reminded by Iran every couple months “hey just in case you guys forgot, we got missiles”.

I assume this is for domestic consumption because if it’s to scare the U.S./Israel, it doesn’t work. I don’t know how many IRGC old brass need to die before we stop this shit.
 

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