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Immortals said:
This specific messaging in particular where they are parroting Western propaganda is a new low for these IRI officials and Hajizadeh included. Solemani would not have stood for this. Actually the attack would be completely different if Solemani was the mastermind rather than Hajizadeh, but alas that’s off topic to the point.

The fact that after the largest military operation by Iran against a western country since Operation Pray Mantis, iran has yet to disclose in professional military terms:

  • The weapons it used
  • The targets it went after
  • The quantity of each weapon type used (if even an approximate or a ‘more then ___’)

Shows a distributing thing. Wether the messaging is for domestic consumption or western consumption (unlikely since western citizens don’t exactly follow Iranian news) is irrelevant.

They have also been implicit in covering up attacks that have occurred inside Iran either before/after the revenge strike.

Unfortunately we have entered an age of information where no government (or military) can be considered reliable in the information it gives its citizens. Not US, Not Russia, Not Iran, Not China, Not EU. It’s all become one soup of competing propaganda and illusions.
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why should they make it clear? maybe they don't want Israel/USA to know these details.

but it is clear they have covered up sabotage attacks inside iran for many years and in recent weeks too. these generals are not exactly the most competent or honest. IRGC-GF commander gave a speech in SE Iran claiming peace was restored only hours before 5 more Iranians were martyred by terrorists in that same town. not to mention the guy who gave a video in front of the Nebo radar claiming all radars are fine while the s-300 search radar was removed and replaced by another radar.
 
Immortals said:
This specific messaging in particular where they are parroting Western propaganda is a new low for these IRI officials and Hajizadeh included. Solemani would not have stood for this. Actually the attack would be completely different if Solemani was the mastermind rather than Hajizadeh, but alas that’s off topic to the point.

The fact that after the largest military operation by Iran against a western country since Operation Pray Mantis, iran has yet to disclose in professional military terms:

  • The weapons it used
  • The targets it went after
  • The quantity of each weapon type used (if even an approximate or a ‘more then ___’)

Shows a distributing thing. Wether the messaging is for domestic consumption or western consumption (unlikely since western citizens don’t exactly follow Iranian news) is irrelevant.

They have also been implicit in covering up attacks that have occurred inside Iran either before/after the revenge strike.

Unfortunately we have entered an age of information where no government (or military) can be considered reliable in the information it gives its citizens. Not US, Not Russia, Not Iran, Not China, Not EU. It’s all become one soup of competing propaganda and illusions.
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I won’t go anywhere as far as you are. The terrible ineptitude in messaging is sufficient for me. As for operational data I believe it’s best they didn’t disclose anything all. They should stick with that. 20% of this and that is not helpful.
 
Persian Gulf said:
why should they make it clear? maybe they don't want Israel/USA to know these details.
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Breaking news: Israel/USA know the details since they were on the receiving end.

It boggles my mind people come on here in 2024 and think Israel/USA wouldn’t have a strong idea what was launched…..against themselves. All of the ISR, SIGINT, Communications interception, etc, they know exactly what Iran used.

But they didn’t tell the truth, instead they kept the classified information and released bogus information for their domestic audience , leaving Iran to not know the extent of their intelligence gather and ISR power.

Why would Israel and USA come out and give precise intelligence especially if some could potentially compromise the source? It would only help Iran.

Persian Gulf said:
. not to mention the guy who gave a video in front of the Nebo radar claiming all radars are fine while the s-300 search radar was removed and replaced by another radar.
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This is what is disturbing. The fact that even in 2024 with satellite photos available to the average citizen, they lied thru their teeth and did their Baghdad Bob impresssion.

They have shown to be just as unreliable as the Americans and Russians and Ukrainians.

Even to this day they don’t officially acknowledge that Israel used Ballistic missiles against them.
 
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Hezbollah has not only destroyed them but also has literally cleansed the whole border from everything Israeli. 10 Km is huge and outstanding for an ATGM.

Just imagine that Hezbollah's anti tank units are doing the job of light L-118 artillery system with 100 percent accuracy.
 
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Almas-3 with 10km+ range with man in the loop mode enabling BVR precise engagement of infantry/mechanised infantry/buildings etc is an incredible asset for Hezbollah. even Almas-2 with 8km range is very useful given it's much smaller size relative to Almas-3. these beauties need to be exported across the entire resistance axis, they are a game changer for guerrilla warfare and it is not surprising that many group would be interested in purchasing them. they are also clearly in mass production for many years now with huge numbers produced.

I remember reading an interview of a IRGC commander a while back where they said they reached 16km range for air-launched Almas and plan to increase it even further. Rafael has recently developed a Spike NLOS version with 32km range when ground-launched and 50km range when air-launched. This is cutting edge of ATGMs and the logical progression for future Iranian Almas variants. Akka/Acre is 20-25km from Lebanese borders and Safed is 15-20km away (Haifa is 33-35km away)... Hezbollah with the ability to conduct precision BVR strikes with ATGMs into all of those areas would be a game changer.

Immortals said:
Breaking news: Israel/USA know the details since they were on the receiving end.

It boggles my mind people come on here in 2024 and think Israel/USA wouldn’t have a strong idea what was launched…..against themselves. All of the ISR, SIGINT, Communications interception, etc, they know exactly what Iran used.
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if they double count separated boost stages and say 50% of missiles failed to launch, maybe not. they will only have the booster stage, tracking of trajectory i.e. ballistic or quasi ballistic, and satellite imagery to go off. that will give them an idea but maybe not the full picture.
Immortals said:
This is what is disturbing. The fact that even in 2024 with satellite photos available to the average citizen, they lied thru their teeth and did their Baghdad Bob impresssion.

They have shown to be just as unreliable as the Americans and Russians and Ukrainians.

Even to this day they don’t officially acknowledge that Israel used Ballistic missiles against them.
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it shows they were not seeking escalation or to enforce their claimed new red lines unless Israel really forces them to. this means assassinations, military/nuclear sabotage, strikes against IRGC assets abroad etc will likely continue to fall under the IRI's threshold for a direct response. Iran's response if/when another IRGC member is killed by Israel in Syria will tell us whether the ROE have changed or not.
 
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Flames In The Desert said:
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So the man who took the missile on his crotch was a "civilian"? What's a civilian doing in a military complex near barracks and radars?
 
tsunset said:
So the man who took the missile on his crotch was a "civilian"? What's a civilian doing in a military complex near barracks and radars?
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Its not like the zionists have ever showed even the slightest respect for terms like "civilian".

As to why he was there,word of god says that he`d seen/heard the first atgm strike and came over to see if he could "offer assistance"....

Make of that what you will....

Seems like a very dumb thing to do,after all the zionists were infamous for hitting a target then waiting for first responders to congregate and then giving it a "double tap" to take them out as well.
You`d think that as a zionist,likely ex iof,that he`d have remembered that little trick,guess not..

Good fvcking riddance,one less of the sick evil bastards to cause havoc in the region.
 
I have a question. There is Fire&Forget version of Almas-3. Because every video that I saw, the missiles were guided by line and not Fire&Forget.

And there is, can you give me video where they show it (during exercices etc....)
 
Ghostkiller said:
I have a question. There is Fire&Forget version of Almas-3. Because every video that I saw, the missiles were guided by line and not Fire&Forget.

And there is, can you give me video where they show it (during exercices etc....)
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even Almas-1 has fire and forget mode
 
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