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Whatever you say bro…
Moreover when Tor M2 is near no MLRS can work. Their pure ballistic path makes really easy to intercept whenever GPS jamming is not working. Even Buk M2 systems have succeded in intercepting MLRS rockets. So ukros only use them where NATO assess them there are not such systems deployed.
 

The 9 DEADLY IRANIAN MISSILES That Can Target Israel & U.S. Military Bases In the Middle East​




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Accuracy is definitely improved but regardless, hasn’t done much infrastructure damage. Israeli planes were lined up outside on that base and none were hit. Just some buildings and runway.

The problem with Iran is the serial infiltration of spies on its security and political apparatus which is leading to the mass assassination of proxy allies and leadership. Iran is infested with spies.
 
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32 hits on Nevatim. I count maybe 9 accurate/semi-accurate hits.

we should accept that we cannot put these airbases out of operation with current missiles (too inaccurate, not powerful enough, airbases too big and difficult to put out of operation for any extended period of time anyway which makes trying not worth the effort)

What is the possibility that many of the missiles that have penetrated Israeli airspace that Iran has used were loaded with decoys or 'airburst' warheads, which do not leave large craters but throw shrapnel in a large radius, effective against dispersed targets such as aircraft and fighter jets?

I wonder this because in some images I did not see large explosions and the speed was low compared to other RVs that impacted the ground, which makes sense that Iran used some missiles with these payloads instead of using high explosive warheads.

In other words, Iran may have used three types of conventional payloads:
decoys
airburst
conventional warhead

Another thing to consider is that in many cases of videos, it seems that most are conventional ballistic reentry vehicles. If this is the case, the final orientation is done in space before the last stage or the “bus” makes its altitude adjustments and launches the RV, which will dive into the atmosphere, rotating to achieve stability.

The precision depends on the guidance system (whether inertial only or combined with satellite) and the quality of the inertial system and the refined attitude control of the missile by means of mini-rockets.

If it is a MaRV, that is, a maneuverable reentry vehicle, it has a guidance system in the reentry vehicle itself that uses small fins to correct the course. This correction can come from an inertial system alone, from an inertial system combined with a “GPS” or even from a seeker.

As in some cases, the RV appears to be tearing apart, it must not have a terminal seeker, otherwise it would be blind. In order to have a terminal seeker (such as a thermal or visual imaging seeker or a radar), the MaRV would have to slow down to something close to Mach 3, as the Pershing II did in the 1980s, in order to be able to “see” by clearing the plasma in front of it.

If it is a MaRV with an inertial guidance system or combined with GPS, then it could be possible since it would not need to slow down because the GPS signals can be captured by an antenna placed at the rear of the vehicle and it is in a blind spot where the plasma does not advance.

It could also refine its trajectory while still at high altitude before the plasma forms and use only inertial in the lower layers of the atmosphere.

I do not believe that what we see falling is a MaRV. Most must be ballistic RVs. And given the degree of precision of these warheads and what is left, it seems to be the case.

In fact, if it is a HGV from a “hypersonic” missile, the same considerations that are pertinent to a MaRV are pertinent to the HGV. If you have a seeker, you have to slow down. If you don't have one, you don't need to slow down and you can hit the target at a very high speed. What you can also see is that very fast vehicles, in the terminal phase, don't maneuver.
 
Accuracy is definitely improved but regardless, hasn’t done much infrastructure damage. Israeli planes were lined up outside on that base and none were hit. Just some buildings and runway.
There is no such conclusion. If the IDF had full advance knowledge of the attack, they would have flown most of their aircraft, even large aircraft, from the base.

A report I read from someone on another forum who lives in Israel is that the IDF had advance knowledge of the attack. Some IDF personnel were personally warned to evacuate certain areas of the base around 10:00 AM, a full nine hours before the attack, which occurred at 7:30 PM. This means that the IDF knew well in advance where and when it would be.

Shortly before the attack, OSINT accounts spotted on FlightRadar a large number of aircraft based at Nevatim circling over Israel.

The IDF released a statement saying that the bases were hit, but that damage was only to a few buildings and that aircraft and critical infrastructure were not impacted, nor was combat readiness affected.
 
Sorry but don't be blinded by ego.

Those satellite pictures (along with videos from central Israel, showing impacts on random civilian roads, an impact next to a school, and an impact next to a residential building) indicate those missiles are a statistical weapon.
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You need accurate, precise weapons to effectively take out an airfield. Videos made it seem like that base was absolutely wiped out but in reality it doesn't seem as bad.
Actual structures were hit as reflected in Nevatim's sat pix. Given the chance of that occurring is statistically very low, especially from 1400km-1700km away. Accounting for the large number of warheads/bomblets, which work in favor of hitting something, and the varied range of missiles used, it stands to reason the strikes fall between HA/LP and HA/HP (lower row in you pic).

Regardless, it's an INCREDIBLE feat.
 
Actual structures were hit as reflected in Nevatim's sat pix. Given the chance of that occurring is statistically very low, especially from 1400km-1700km away. Accounting for the large number of warheads/bomblets, which work in favor of hitting something, and the varied range of missiles used, it stands to reason the strikes fall between HA/LP and HA/HP (lower row in you pic).

Regardless, it's an INCREDIBLE feat.


Those talking like that do not understand mathematics.

As my study was in theoretical physics, let me state that in terms of statistics the CEP of some Iraninan missiles is in the low 10s of metres.

There is simply no other explanation on why so many structures and runways were hit.
 
Unlike the April attack, this time the RV was not used at all to maneuver just before the collision.
It seems that for some reason interception by David's Sling was not actively attempted and as a result was not necessary, but what was Iran's intention?
 
An interesting re-reading of some claims about Iran's missile stockpile:
The Islamic Republic has thousands of ballistic missiles, according to U.S. intelligence assessments. They can reach as far as thirteen hundred miles in any direction—deep into India and China to the east; high into Russia to the north; to Greece and other parts of Europe to the west; and as far south as Ethiopia, in the Horn of Africa. About a hundred missiles could reach Israel.
Iran has already launched approximately 20 MBRMs capable of hitting Israel in an exercise even before the April 2024 attack. The April 2024 attack was with 110-120 ballistic missiles. This October 1 attack was with 180 ballistic missiles according to Western sources. Iran has reportedly launched about 300 ballistic missiles in the two 2024 attacks according to Western sources. I think everyone doubts that Iran would spend even 5% of its stockpile to hit Israel in its latest attacks. A totally underestimated US intelligence assessment.
 
Something weird, there is a difference between two of the following pictures that were posted here:
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Watch this:
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This is the same area, so one of the pictures is not true
 
Iran has been producing ballistic missiles for 40 years. No one knows how many missiles Iran has produced. I only know that in these years, Iran's main focus has been on missile attacks.

The accuracy of the missiles has also been good. Take a look at the photo of the Nevatim base
Don't forget that a 40 Yr missile will have structural changes over time even with maintainance. So not a good logic.
 
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What?🤣

Put the whole video, the only working Tor M2 it is just firing a drone while received a rocket.
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And the crude truth it is HIMARS are not stopping russians from advances in all fronts. None of them. Even with ATACMS.

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