Iranian Nuclear Doctrine

Pataramesh reaches the same conclusion (as I have for at least 15 years) that Iran no doubt has DELIVERABLE nuclear weapons. Interestingly he bases some of his analysis on the 'docs stolen by Zionia' which demonstrate the capabilities. He also claims it's highly possible the docs were intentionally allowed to be 'stolen' to demonstrate Iranian tech knowhow. Iran easily possesses:

- the Fuel cycle,
- the device (design maybe from NK plus data)
- the neutron initiator device. This is interesting for a few reasons: 1. often the device is bases on a radio isotope such as tritium that can be detected (i.e. manufactured in reactors), however, the device Iran has developed is an undetectable uranium-deuterium 3 neutron initiator which is undetectable.
- Qaem series ICBMs
- cold tests

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Pataramesh reaches the same conclusion (as I have for at least 15 years) that Iran no doubt has DELIVERABLE nuclear weapons.
Incorrect as usual (to borrow your language).

That is not what he concludes at all. He says Iran has latent capability to build a nuclear weapon within a few weeks. Not that Iran already has deliverable nuclear weapons.
 
Incorrect as usual (to borrow your language).

That is not what he concludes at all. He says Iran has latent capability to build a nuclear weapon within a few weeks. Not that Iran already has deliverable nuclear weapons.
Incorrect. You may want to polish up on your Farglisi (to borrow from your humorous and ineffective jabs). I also urge a measure of creativity.
 
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I read it is 5,000 IR-6 centrifuges but the source was not very reliable.

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I would concur IR-6 and IR-6S

IR-8 was first shown in 2014 and first tests started in Natanz in January 2017

I think it was Salehi that said it takes 7-10 years for a new centrifuge to enter mass production in Iran

7-10 years from first test is Jan 2024-2027... so IR-8 should be ready soon

If I remember correctly IR-8 wasn’t fed with uranium gas till much later in its life cycle and there was trouble with longevity so they built the B variant. The SWU has widely varied by Iranian claims as high as 20-25/SWU although Western estimates are much lower.

Further more the Israeli attacks on Natanz centrifuge workshop and Karaj assembly reduced the production rate of advanced centrifuges. Iran is now developing a facility inside of a mountain to prevent such occurrences in the future.

Yet for my knowledge, the IR-8 and IR-9 are still quite few in pilot testing (12-48 centrifuges) and none of them are actually enriching with uranium.

Until we see actual production cascades being installed in greater numbers we can assume IR-8/IR-9 are still in R&D indefinitely.

their deadline is 18th October 2025 (Termination Day)

on Termination Day, the UNSC resolutions against Iran are permanently lifted and the 'snapback' procedure is removed

Q2-Q3 2025 will be pivotal. EU/US will have to choose between:

(1) end of UNSC legitimacy against Iran's nuclear program - continuation of unilateral/secondary sanctions instead

vs

(2) continuation of UNSC resolutions against Iran but Iran out of NPT and with no nuclear inspections at all

the second scenario is very dangerous, threats to bomb Iran will likely reach new highs

I cannot see the west letting SnapBack mechanism expire and even Argachi has said as much that many expiring elements of JCPOA need to be addressed in a new deal.

Even if they do expire there is nothing to hold EU and U.S. from enforcing their own SnapBack mechanisms and punishing any country from doing business with Iran by excluding them out of the EU/US economies and Euro/Dollar financial system.

So once again countries/companies will have to decide between trade with Iran or trade with the West. Not a hard decision to be honest. Plus Iran’s expulsion from SWIFT makes international banking transactions a nightmare for many companies and countries.
 
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I cannot see the west letting SnapBack mechanism expire and even Argachi has said as much that many expiring elements of JCPOA need to be addressed in a new deal.

Even if they do expire there is nothing to hold EU and U.S. from enforcing their own SnapBack mechanisms and punishing any country from doing business with Iran by excluding them out of the EU/US economies and Euro/Dollar financial system.
the latter is why they might be tempted to let the snapback dissolve and UNSC mandate disappear: they don't need a UNSC mandate to enforce sanctions against Iran, so the risk of Iran leaving the NPT offsets the additional practical gain from a UNSC mandate vs a US-EU mandate.
 
the latter is why they might be tempted to let the snapback dissolve and UNSC mandate disappear: they don't need a UNSC mandate to enforce sanctions against Iran, so the risk of Iran leaving the NPT offsets the additional practical gain from a UNSC mandate vs a US-EU mandate.

I agree. The UN SnapBack was only to get Russia and China onboard. But now there are Chinese companies set up that don’t do any business with West that can take on the sanctions risk, so it becomes a political issue rather than an economic one (ie Chinese government cracking down on their traders at the request of the West vs Chinese companies afraid of investing in Iran like you see in rest of world).

Russia is really a non factor here since they compete with Iran in energy markets and they would be glad to see Iran not producing as much so they can make up the extra supply via OPEC+. Same for the Arabs/Africans.

Lastly, and it’s important to note. Just because a lot of sunset expirations are scheduled to happen it’s not going to make anyone more eager to trade with Iran.

Just look at Arms Embargo it fell off how many years ago? And everyone on here was celebrating as some type of victory. Since then, who has sold major arms to Iran? No one. What countries has Iran sold major arms to? Just other pariah countries like Venzuenla/Russia and a drone factory in Tajikstan or somewhere. Despite claims by Iran that 50+ countries want to buy their arms .

So the only way you are gonna convince the world that Iran is safe for business is for EU or U.S. companies to come into the country in a major way and invest. Until then everyone will be afraid of US Treasury and EU financial regulators and consider Iran radioactive.

Just look at Founder (CZ) of Binance, a major Asian cryptocurrency. Binance was hammered by the U.S. and CZ is going to jail for not having proper money laundering mechanisms that allowed Iran and other pariah countries to skirt sanctions.So the arm of U.S. Treasury still has far reaching implications.

At the end of the day, what is Iran’s strategy from an economic standpoint? It cannot stay under economic warfare forever. The problem with Iran leaving the NPT is that just a negotiating tactic to scare the world. It doesn’t economically change anything for Iran.

Having a bomb will also mean Iran stays under economic warfare for 25-50 years or whatever period it takes for the world to “accept” a nuclear Iran. So far for NK it’s going on 25 years and they are still a pariah with no end in sight. So iran might have to wait a long time for acceptance and reintegration back into global economy if it has a bomb.

So again, I ask, what is Iran’s long term strategy? Waiting for the economic collapse of the West is not a strategy. That could take decades maybe even centuries based on historical precedent. Hoping for a Soviet Union style rapid collapse is too optimistic. Not to mention most of the most valuable companies in the world are US originated companies.

So from an IP and technology standpoint, US is the holder of the greatest amount of IP and tech. Which means its value post collapse isn’t going to disappear like the Soviet Union or Great Britain did. The west has a monopoly on IP and tech right now. China is challenging that, but it’s got a long way to go for Huwawei to stand toe to toe with Apple or BYD to stand against BMW/Mercedes/Porsche. Or Sino Pharma to be considered on same level as Merck/Pfizer/Eli Lily. This is not based so much based on who has the “superior” product, but more on which brand is globally accepted by households and consumers.
 
I read it is 5,000 IR-6 centrifuges but the source was not very reliable.

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Good. That's still a huge leap for Iran's nuclear program since 2009. That would add +25,000 SWU UF6/year to our enrichment capacity. That's nearly 250% growth.
 
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Iranian FM is bluffing. If he was really thinking like this he would not explicitly mention the threat.

Iranian leadership is still underestimating the snakes they are dealing with - just ask Putin how many times he has been stabbed in the back by them. What's best for Iran is keep quiet and make nukes before Trump comes in to office. Once he's in office and if he starts making credible threats then do a test that proves they have nukes. Empty bluffs like this will only lead to a disaster like what happened to Nasrallah bluffing about "war with no limits" only to end up dead.
 
If ‘the west’ imposes/threatens sanctions while Iran plays the ‘who me?’ game, it obviously means two things:

- They are confident Iran has weapons capability so playing house doesn’t matter anymore
- Iran wants to have its cake and eat it too. I.e. act as if it doesn’t have weapons while benefiting from whatever trade is left and for as long as possible.
 
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If ‘the west’ imposes/threatens sanctions while Iran okays the ‘who me?’ game, it obviously means two things:

- They are confident Iran has weapons capability so playing house doesn’t matter anymore
- Iran wants to have its cake and eat it too. I.e. act as if it doesn’t have weapons while benefiting from whatever trade is left and for as long as possible.


There is a video that showed how Iran could even survive multiple and continued nuclear strikes on Fordow and still be able to quickly(~2 weeks) enrich enough refined uraniam to make 20 or so bombs.

It would then be a case of transporting the refined uranium to the delivery missiles in underground missile bases, and then launching retaliatory and devastating nuclear attacks on Zio-US nuclear/military targets in response.

Anyone who thinks that Iran has not spent decades planning for a nuclear showdown with Zio-US simply is ignorant of what Iranian foreign policy has been since the 1990s.

Iran is far from weak and is exercising strategic patience as it knows that time is on its side and against Zio-US.
 
There is a video that showed how Iran could even survive multiple and continued nuclear strikes on Fordow and still be able to quickly(~2 weeks) enrich enough refined uraniam to make 20 or so bombs.

It would then be a case of transporting the refined uranium to the delivery missiles in underground missile bases, and then launching retaliatory and devastating nuclear attacks on Zio-US nuclear/military targets in response.

Anyone who thinks that Iran has not spent decades planning for a nuclear showdown with Zio-US simply is ignorant of what Iranian foreign policy has been since the 1990s.

Iran is far from weak and is exercising strategic patience as it knows that time is on its side and against Zio-US.
In this case the only objective would be to counter-nuke the US/Israel homeland

Otherwise nuclear bombed Iran is doomed and millions of deaths with decades or more to recover from that

The goal would be to nuke US capital and major cities at all costs no matter how much nuclear bombs are dropped on Iran
 
In this case the only objective would be to counter-nuke the US/Israel homeland

Otherwise nuclear bombed Iran is doomed and millions of deaths with decades or more to recover from that

The goal would be to nuke US capital and major cities at all costs no matter how much nuclear bombs are dropped on Iran


US is tightly controlled by Zionists - Jews and Christians.

Being able to credibly threaten to wipe out the Zionist entity is enough at this time.

In fact I would not be surprised if the US would trade in one of their smaller cities in order to spare a major Zionist settlement in Occupied Palestine.

Of course that does not mean that Iran should not continue development of ICBMs(cough...SLVs of course) in order to one day bring the US homeland within range.
 
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seems the number includes a range of IR-2M, IR-4 and IR-6 centrifuges:

"Thursday's report said Iran had finished installing the last two cascades of IR-2m centrifuges in a batch of 18 at its vast underground Fuel Enrichment Plant at Natanz, and that it planned to bring all 18 online, though the IAEA verified on Nov. 26 that no uranium had been fed into them.

Iran also told the agency it intended to install 18 extra cascades of IR-4 centrifuges at that Natanz plant, each with 166 machines, the report said.

At the above-ground pilot plant at Natanz, Iran informed the IAEA it planned to take various steps that suggested it would increase the number of full, rather than small or intermediate, cascades there, which could produce more enriched uranium.

It also said it planned to install one cascade of up to 1,152 IR-6 centrifuges at that pilot plant [Natanz], which could be the biggest cascade by far in Iran yet."
 

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