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The only drone in Iran that can keep up with our manned aircraft is karrar.
The rest are not desined for that role

Karrar is bit smaller to mean anything in aerial warfare. They will need to fit it with larger Turbojet and increase its size to give it onboard active/passive search and Track assets (radar, IRST, EO), datalink, atleast 2 x WVR. Without windtunnel, this cant happen. We saw what happened to Yasin AT or Tazarve, Saegheh before that, when aerodynamics were designed without windtunnel tests.
 
Unmanned jets are obsolete unless an independent satellite constellation with realtime capability is developed for guiding the high flying unmanned jets. That was why IRGC has almost abandoned the unmanned version of Q-313 for now.

With a capable aerial EW asset, one can easily get rid of them.

Kizilelma without specifications of 5th generation aircrafts plus realtime satellite assistance is useless.

When Turkey develops an independent satellite constellation for guidance purposes, I'll be one of the fans of kizilelma.

Instead platforms like Shahed drones can survive EW hit zones through employing pre-planned operations.

Such platforms don't need realtime info to stay in the air.
 
UCAVs have their own utility, less to do with manned aircrafts. Slow moving UCAVs are becoming useless and obsolete yes like we saw how Turkish TB2 made records of being the most shot down UCAV of all time. Similarly 2 dozen predators have been shot down in Yemen or Israeli Hermes during last 5-10 years. Countries with actual defense industry (superpowers) are modifying the UCAV program, not getting rid of it altogether or replacing them with fighter jets. Iran seem to be just legging behind.
Well, I think IRI had a very good program for advanced UCAVs (Karrar and maybe Qaher), maybe problem was that IRI buried manned aircrafts too soon or the budget available or a combination of those reasons, I don´t know.

But advanced UCAVs are the future. Few people don´t pay attention but the revolutionary Type 076 LHD with EMALS will change the equation. In the future, this ship would be able to launch supersonic stealth UCAV aircrafts maybe with less payload and range than F35/J35 (maybe a payload and range similar to an AV8B+) but enough to challenge the embarked naval air power.

1º.- Stealth like a F35 (if not more beacuse they´re much smaller and no canopy and frame are required).
2º.- You don´t need to recruit, train during years, and pay pilots. You don´t need to have high rank instructors and accidents would be negligible (just one or at much 2 UCAVs in flight). You don´t need even flight schools and expensive simulators.
3º.- They´re esentially expendable (even if stealth UCAVs are expensive) after time and being near to their limit airframe you can sacrifice them.
4º.- They spend less fuel, because they weight much less, and their logistic foot must be a half or even lower.
5º.- The vessels don´t need to be nuclear (a fraction of a nuclear carrier, like French, US or future Chinese), much simpler propulsion, a third or even less crew are required and a half of a US supercarrier displacement is required.

During some decades conventional navy carriers would be necessary to fulfill long range and most dangerous missions (SEAD/DEAD and antiship missions) because they require heavy multimissions aircrafts unable to operate from smaller LHDs, but at long term even those missions can be achieved by bigger UCAVs. And US Navy is losing miserably that race (12 CVN conventional fleets and luxury expenses like colonial wars in Venezuela and criminal support to zionism, etc are depleting pentagon budget).

Ironically IRGC realized about the potential future of a unmanned carrier vessel (even before than Turkey or long tradition naval powers like european union navies). But the IRGC achievements in HALE have been at some point deceiving. The first step would be design and operate HALE UAVs, after it arm them and finally embark them.

After 12 day war it is perfectly understable why IRI shifts from those long term plans and come back to reality of manned aircrafts. But after covering such necessity it must be returned to works of design and build UCAVs... and at medium term, embark them.

I don´t agree about smaller UAVs like Mohajer VI or Shahed 129/149. They have their role. For patrolling deserted areas of Baluchestan or Makran coast or even Persian Gulf smugglers are more than suitable, but the problem is when you send to Saudi Arabia or try to use them even in light contested airspace.

IRI must leave behind the Rotax 912/914 family. And Gaza drone it is the correct answer. But please, don´t give it missions in contested airspace or will finish exactly in the same way than US reapers in Yemen, I mean downed by dozens.
 
Kizilelma without specifications of 5th generation aircrafts plus realtime satellite assistance is useless.
Kizilelma even if it doesn´t have satellite node or the stealth features are not exactly of 5 gen aircraft it is revolutionary. As a testbed for supersonic 4.5++ gen UCAV it is excellent. That UCAV just need hundreds of flight hours, correcting flaws (engine, marine corrosion, etc), improve the automatic landing and take off (they´re much faster and challenging in low airspeed approach to airfields/vessels) and test integration of sensors and data transfer. After those flaws are corrected they can develop a bigger version with satellite node and higher thrust engine.
But Kizilelma it is the way that IRGC should do with the Qaher. Just the same. Test and navalize a HALE jet propulsion first and then you can add all systems to became a truly UCAV. Nobody in the EU had a naval UCAV program (even France just shelved it), and IRI and Turkey started to do it even before than us.
 
without satellite control and navigation there is no real way forward except conceptual technology like Quantum communication or having network control UCAV with something like AWACS which Iran doesn't possecc ..
IR failed to see that electronic are key for future ...
I agree... however, between yesterday and today my timeline on X is littered with reports that Iran has reached an agreement with China to get HQ-9 air defence system and AWACS.
(Not posting any links because I don't know if it's true.)
 
Difficult to read here again.

I used to come to the forum every day, but now I skip days because I have access to better discussions and information elsewhere.

People on the ground in Iran claim that military production in the country is at least three times greater than before the 12-day war, and this is a fact. Iran is a major global drone producer and continues to produce and improve the technology. Stop believing an imposter like Emirzad because you are making this forum look ridiculous, and many people have left.

Furthermore, they are improving their artillery systems with better targeting systems, cameras, and the addition of missiles to some of them. People in my group were saying that Iran is taking inspiration from the Russian Sosna and Terminator artillery systems and the Chinese type 625E systems.

Please also give us updates on AI controlled 100+ stealth Kowsars you talked about before that are so stealth that we cant even see them with naked eyes inside Iran. Also my favorite gem by you, the F-4"SM" with new "cell" that defended Iran against Israeli F-35s in war.
 
Please also give us updates on AI controlled 100+ stealth Kowsars you talked about before that are so stealth that we cant even see them with naked eyes inside Iran. Also my favorite gem by you, the F-4"SM" with new "cell" that defended Iran against Israeli F-35s in war.
Where did he make the claim for "100+ stealth Kowsars"?
 
Where did he make the claim for "100+ stealth Kowsars"?
It's clear I never said that, and I said there was an artificial intelligence component linked to the drones. I never said the Kowsar was controlled by AI.

The F-4 upgrade is a fact, and Iran didn't use its air force much during the 12-day war. Next time will be much better.

This is what's happening today:

Defense Minister of Iran:

- Right now, all our production is at the same quantitative and qualitative level as before the 12-12 war, and there's no problem in that regard. -

I told him that overall production has tripled, and that's exactly what's happening.
 
Where did he make the claim for "100+ stealth Kowsars"?
I do recall @Mr Iran Eye making said comments be it 100 or less I can’t remember but everything else was accurate also fifth generation aircraft that were right around the corner etc.
He makes vague statements or stating Iran is just around the corner of massive breakthrough and claims credit for knowing things because he has insider knowledge or watches to many YouTube videos you can’t blame people for rolling their 👀
 
🇮🇷 Installation of the Rezvan (Raad-2) suicide drone launcher on the Aras-2 vehicle by the IRGC

The Raad-2 drone, manufactured by the Iranian Defense Industries, is a type of suicide munition with an approximate range of 1000–1500 km and a speed of about 400–600 km/h. This drone is designed to target fixed and moving targets with a combined GPS/INS guidance and optical system. It is usually launched from a ground launcher or a mobile vehicle, and its warhead is estimated to be around 40–50 kg.photo_2025-11-11_16-39-36.jpg
 
If you look at and enlarge the image above, you'll see a Piroz-style system, but larger, with an optical system on the front. I'd like to see a closer look at the official image.
 
I do recall @Mr Iran Eye making said comments be it 100 or less I can’t remember but everything else was accurate also fifth generation aircraft that were right around the corner etc.
He makes vague statements or stating Iran is just around the corner of massive breakthrough and claims credit for knowing things because he has insider knowledge or watches to many YouTube videos you can’t blame people for rolling their 👀

Here is his autistic list of "inside scoop"

AESA radars in fighters
AI Kowsars (he is backtracking now after being ridiculed)
F-4SM with new "cell" whatever the ph does that means
Fifth Generation fighter
Just recently he claimed 20 Kowsars have been delivered

There are other claims that I refused to remember lol

These stupid cultists are damaging Iranian reputation, they don't even realize it. They think its great service to IRI they are spreading stupid propaganda, which no one buys in today's age of information. Countries progress though critical and rational thinking instead of boosting BS.
 
It's clear I never said that, and I said there was an artificial intelligence component linked to the drones. I never said the Kowsar was controlled by AI.

The F-4 upgrade is a fact, and Iran didn't use its air force much during the 12-day war. Next time will be much better.

This is what's happening today:

Defense Minister of Iran:

- Right now, all our production is at the same quantitative and qualitative level as before the 12-12 war, and there's no problem in that regard. -

I told him that overall production has tripled, and that's exactly what's happening.

ROFL, "Iran didn't use its air force much during the 12-day war" so getting 1000 Iranians crushed under the rubble was IRI's deliberate plan ? is that what you are telling us
 

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