Is Pakistan rising as a middle power?

Your rambling do not matter, your opinon and self concocted stories and narrative are irrelevant, the only thing matter is what it says in constitution, and that is what state is, you dont like what you see, feel free to jump off the ship and find yourself a new nation to live among, Pakistan is not for you.

Not really, see constitution can be amended anytime by people voted in by low IQ masses. We are on 28th amendment. Pakistan was a state long before constitution existed on paper. Till we get mature as a nation then this hybrid regime will continue for national interest.
 
Not really, see constitution can be amended anytime by people voted in by low IQ masses. We are on 28th amendment. Pakistan was a state long before constitution existed on paper. Till we get mature as a nation then this hybrid regime will continue for national interest.
That actually points to a greater social issue in which the constitution is technically never known by the largest denomination of the population and the overall contribution and ruling class.

When the majority of people do not truly understand the impact of the constitution, or the sanctity it is supposed to hold, then it naturally stops carrying the weight it was meant to have. At that point, whether some political actors claim to defend it for democratic rule or others try to reshape it through amendments to tighten their hold on power, both sides are still operating around a document that lacks real internal force. It ends up serving more as an external instrument for global perception and legitimacy than as a truly binding social contract that meaningfully shapes political culture inside the country.

That is why arguments over the constitution often feel performative in Pakistan, because the issue is not just what is written in it, but whether society as a whole has enough constitutional literacy and institutional maturity to make it matter.

But then I could make the same statement about the Quran for a large portion of Pakistani muslims... it is just a performative "document" for them... but that is for another thread.
 
Not really, see constitution can be amended anytime by people voted in by low IQ masses. We are on 28th amendment. Pakistan was a state long before constitution existed on paper. Till we get mature as a nation then this hybrid regime will continue for national interest.

Constitution is clear as day light. Agree with it or there are well defined punishment for those who go against it. People's will, collective wisdom is always supreme, specially against some low iq rats
gathered in dark rooms in middle of night.
 
Constitution is clear as day light. Agree with it or there are well defined punishment for those who go against it. People's will, collective wisdom is always supreme, specially against some low iq rats
gathered in dark rooms in middle of night.

You realize Asim Munir is field marshal thanks to 27th Amendment? Its in constitution and going against it mean punishment to death.
 
You realize Asim Munir is field marshal thanks to 27th Amendment? Its in constitution and going against it mean punishment to death.

You and your failed marshal are going against the vary foundation of the nationhood, the state, as per defined under constitution, not only through covert means but now openly defying by words (your utterances) the consitution itself. Already liable to be send to gallows for that crime alone. If anyone hinder in the formation of the state, as per defined under the law, that is the biggest treason.
 
Pakistan is working hard to balance its relationships with competing global powers

For the better part of the last twenty years, whenever the world thought of Pakistan, the focus was usually on terrorism, political chaos and a struggling economy. Naturally, this bad press made investors nervous and left the country's diplomats with very little room to manoeuvre. Lately, however, the narrative has started to shift. Pakistan is quietly adopting a much more flexible foreign policy, working hard to balance its relationships with competing global powers.

A perfect example of this was Pakistan's role during the recent flare-ups between the United States and Iran. Even though Washington and Tehran couldn't be further apart, Pakistan actually managed to keep a working relationship with both and helped keep the lines of communication open. We shouldn't exaggerate Pakistan as a master peacemaker, but the fact that it stayed relevant - and trusted - in such a tense, polarised standoff says a lot about its diplomatic agility.

If you look at how global politics works today, a country's power isn't just measured by the size of its economy or its military. It's also about "soft power" - the ability to build trust, maintain credibility and influence outcomes. By stepping up to mediate between bitter rivals, Pakistan is showing that it can use strategic diplomacy to completely reshape how the world sees it.

On paper, Pakistan has always had the right ingredients to be a major player, or what experts call a "middle power". Just look at a map: it serves as a bridge between South and Central Asia, the Middle East and the Arabian Sea. Add in a massive military, nuclear capabilities and deep historical ties with both Western and regional powers, and the potential is obvious. For years, though, that potential was squandered. Endless political drama, poor governance and a lack of clear direction kept Pakistan from cashing in on its natural advantages.

What's working for Pakistan right now is a smart strategy of playing the middle ground. Instead of tying itself strictly to one team, it's maintaining working relationships with everyone - even countries that oppose each other. Islamabad is holding onto its deep ties with China while simultaneously keeping up its security cooperation with the US. It stays friendly with Iran, yet remains closely allied with Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states. In today's deeply divided world, that kind of flexibility gives Pakistan a rare and valuable diplomatic edge.


That balancing act is exactly why both Washington and Tehran were willing to let Islamabad play the middleman. Iran sees Pakistan as a neighbour with shared cultural and religious roots, including a large Shia population. Meanwhile, the US trusts Pakistan because of decades of shared military and intelligence history.

But here's the reality check: you can't survive on good diplomacy alone. Pakistan's biggest hurdle is still its economy. Years ago, Goldman Sachs predicted Pakistan could eventually become one of the world's largest economies, but the country has been unable to turn its strategic location into actual wealth. Political uncertainty and constantly changing policies have simply turned away long-term investors.

The toll of terrorism and instability over the last two decades has been devastating. While neighbouring India successfully rebranded itself as a global tech and business powerhouse, Pakistan fell behind. Realistically, Pakistan won't be able to compete economically until it gets its own house in order and creates a stable, predictable environment for business.

To keep its current diplomatic winning streak alive, Pakistan desperately needs to focus toward economic reform and its own people. That means pouring resources into education, technology and innovation. The future of global competition is going to be decided by artificial intelligence, robotics, green energy and quantum computing; Pakistan can't afford to stay stuck in traditional, older industries.

Just as importantly, the endless political infighting has to stop. Constant clashes between politicians tear down institutions and discourage investors. If the domestic chaos continues, any foreign policy wins will just slip away. National priorities - like fixing the economy and securing the country - need to be treated as long-term goals, not kegpowder for partisan bickering.

Looking ahead, the rapidly changing Middle East offers a great opportunity for Pakistan. With shifting alliances and a lot of uncertainty about America's long-term plans in the region, new diplomatic doors are opening. Pakistan can absolutely benefit from this, but only if it stays out of regional rivalries.

Right now, Pakistan is genuinely performing above its economic weight class. Through smart diplomacy and strategic positioning, it has fought its way back into the conversation as a highly relevant middle power. But this success is incredibly fragile. Unless the country can figure out how to stabilise its politics and build a strong, modern economy, these diplomatic wins might just be a flash in the pan. The challenge now is proving it has the discipline to stay at the table.
One word - "Delulu"
 
You and your failed marshal are going against the vary foundation of the nationhood, the state, as per defined under constitution, not only through covert means but now openly defying by words (your utterances) the consitution itself. Already liable to be send to gallows for that crime alone. If anyone hinder in the formation of the state, as per defined under the law, that is the biggest treason.
You have rote learned the high school civics .... you are not forgetting anything and not learning anything.
 
You and your failed marshal are going against the vary foundation of the nationhood, the state, as per defined under constitution, not only through covert means but now openly defying by words (your utterances) the consitution itself. Already liable to be send to gallows for that crime alone. If anyone hinder in the formation of the state, as per defined under the law, that is the biggest treason.

So Pakistan constitution is only supreme when it suits your agenda?

The 27th Amendment introduced the following clauses to Article 243:

Clause (7):"Where the Federal Government promotes a member of the Armed Forces to the rank of Field Marshal, Marshal of the Air Force or Admiral of the Fleet, such officer shall retain the rank, privileges and remain in uniform for life."


Clause (8):"Field Marshal, Marshal of the Air Force and Admiral of the Fleet, being national heroes, shall not be removed from office except on the ground or charges and in the manner provided under Article 47." (Note: Article 47 governs the difficult parliamentary impeachment process).


Clause (9):"The provisions of Article 248, as applicable to the President, shall mutatis mutandis apply to Field Marshal, Marshal of the Air Force and Admiral of the Fleet." (Note: This grants absolute, lifetime immunity from arrest, as well as civil and criminal proceedings).


Clause (10):"Upon completion of the term of his command, under the law, the Federal Government shall determine the responsibilities and duties of Field Marshal, Marshal of the Air Force or Admiral of the Fleet in the interest of State."

Clause (11):"The President shall, on advice of the Prime Minister, determine the salary, allowances and privileges of Field Marshal, Marshal of the Air Force and Admiral of the Fleet."
 
You have rote learned the high school civics .... you are not forgetting anything and not learning anything.

You people are living case study of:

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
 
So Pakistan constitution is only supreme when it suits your agenda?

You are sniffing one person behind, your failed Marshall and getting your kicks out of it. I am telling you what the "state" means, and how citizens are the most important stakeholders in it, the vary formation of state is dependent on the will of the citizens. This premises that few rats within the wall of GHQ can assume the role of state for themselves and decide on behalf of 250 million is diabolical, insane , jet black treacherous. Jinnah sussed it out early and gave his famous statement about absolute civilian supremacy.

What you people believe and preach is sub Sahara level of thinking where a general can rule over tin pot countries but in huge population like ours, alienating citizens as if they don't matter, have far reaching consequences, we have already seen what happened in East Wing when their population had no stake in the federation of Pakistan.
 
You people are living case study of:

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
It reflects the narrow viewpoint, self interest and limited knowledge of govt employees, like bureaucrats and soldiers. This is why civilian supremacy is the wise approach. An enlightened civilian mind is far superior and can come up wth visions and solutions that the Grade 22's cannot even fathom.
 
Nation-State was a European experiment which they themselves abandoned with the formation of the European Union. America is called the melting pot of peoples, cultures, ethnicities, and nationalities. Great Britain has a multi-cultural society where an Indian-born Rishi Sunak had become the Prime Minister from 2022 to 2024.

The founding fathers of Pakistan being educated in the West copied the Nation-State idea to carve a piece of land where the economic interests of a portion of Indian Muslims could be saved. However, since Pakistan comprises of different nationalities, so the racial interests became foremost in the division of resources. For this reason, East Pakistan separated from us because the ideology of a Pakistani Nation was weaker than the economic and linguistic interests of Bengalis who felt they were being exploited.

However, Islam while identifying and giving importance to the role of nationality has given us the concept of Ummah. Among the Prophet’s PBUH earliest followers were Salman Farsi RAA a Persian, many Sahaba of Jewish origin and Bilal Habshi RAA who was an African. It was the width of the scope of Ummah which gathered under its banner Arabs, Persians, Central Asians, Europeans, Turks and Africans within a short span of a hundred years.

Pakistan can become a Super Power by following this concept of Ummah and making an Economic Union at first with neighboring Muslim States like Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan, Central Asian States, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Malaysia and Indonesia by expanding the already existing ECO (Economic Cooperation Organization or the OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation).

After the formation of the Economic Union, member States can contribute their forces to a combined defensive Army.

We have seen that the Capitalist and Crusader exploitative Western Countries make a War Alliance to attack Muslim and other countries on trumped up charges. Examples are Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran etc.

The only way to protect weak individual Muslim countries is by uniting and becoming one Ummah. Pakistan can take the lead in this by convincing the Heads of other Muslim States to join this Union and forming the Pak Caliphate.
 
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We have a thread about becoming a middle power also. Better to merge these two wishes
 
Why do you want Pakistan to become a "super power"?

Pakistani leaderships throughout history have desired to lead the Muslim World in all fields, but have never looked at becoming a global superpower.
 

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