Israel declares all Arab states as Illegitimate Official government declaration

[r3alist]

Sufis and Shias have adovated on PDF for formation of international cities of Makkah and Madina.

A fractured Arab world serves sectarian purposes of all these factions.

For how long? They will have their own future Arab Bedouin houthi verison, agitating from the outside, that is whoever takes power.

And the powers can play them off as usual, or people will become like half of Iran eventually

 

[mythbuster]

It's not that there is any animosity, but mutual links are also mutual jeopardy, it's structural imo the give and take is accepted


What is strategically better, strong relations with an existing state or new relations with several states, so Pakistan probably can't be passive, loses financial, political economic support and a specific positioning in the heart of Islam

Then Iran will get ideas

That's all good , however I don't want to see Pakistan as a beast of burden.... there are no free lunches.

 

[r3alist]

That's all good , however I don't want to see Pakistan as a beast of burden.... there are no free lunches.

Turkey can tough it out, they don't have the same equities in Saudi and probably take an elevated role assuming this negative scenario, they can quietly say no and benefit after

Pakistan not sure, if the Saudis have their back to the walls they can't demand anything really, from anyone, I see the framing as what does Pakistan think is in its interest

 

[mythbuster]

Turkey can tough it out, they don't have the same equities in Saudi and probably take an elevated role assuming this negative scenario, they can quietly say no and benefit after

Pakistan not sure, if the Saudis have their back to the walls they can't demand anything really, from anyone, I see the framing as what does Pakistan think is in its interest

Just for the perspective..... Pakistan received 25 billion dollars from America as coalition support fund ( not a loan )....do you believe Pakistan will throw it's troops in such a tough and inhospitable terrain for rollover of few billion dollars ? ....if money is right then by all means screw the houthis.

 

[Feroze]

The only illegitimate country is Israel. Or hell on earth.

 

[mythbuster]

Just for the perspective..... Pakistan received 25 billion dollars from America as coalition support fund ( not a loan )....do you believe Pakistan will throw it's troops in such a tough and inhospitable terrain for rollover of few billion dollars ? ....if money is right then by all means screw the houthis.

To continue....
There's no threat to Makkah and Medina from any country , not even Israel.... houthis don't have the capacity to invade and capture Saudi Arabia.... it's all balloony ...
It's a war of choice , price got to be right to get into the fray .

 

[battalion25]

If you look around and think everyone else is a problem for you, you may want to look in the mirror and ask yourself if the problem is really just you.

But I don't expect them to have that much self awareness. The arrogance of the chosen people has no limits.

Reminds me about when Nate diaz told Conor you just fought midgets and got pumped up.

Disclaimer: By the way midgets they failed to defeat (IJ and Hamas)

Israel believes in 2-3 airstrikes can win something but they have no concept of real war with a country that has dept, they did not learn or study the hamas war it self as they failed to move hamas in a 2 year conventional war in a very small area the size of manhatten.

Israel can use whatever they possesses but they can´t defeat 1v1 anyone in the region in a prolonged war except Lebanon in this modern era

 

[PakFactor]

Israel declares ALL Arab states as illegitimate





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Even the devil could be right at times.

 

[Prophecy]

Its long term planning and opportune geopolitics, in the way Pakistan and India have designs on one another.

UAE Iran and Israel want this equally I would say, if they felt Saudis sovereign integrity could be pushed they would relax a bit, that's what they want.

And already forming an understanding, Iran Israel power share with uae middle man of Arabia


Pakistan will be pressured more than turkey to make bigger sacrifices for Saudi, whilst worrying about itself and by the way Balochistan is another place where Iran and UAE align

What you say contradicts what is happening.

If that is Zionism ultimate goal, why not let Iran go nuclear?
Why the war against Iran, Houtis and hammas?
Why making the ground against Turkey next and down the line Pakistan?

Why not KSA, UAE, Jordan etc etc.

It's because Zionist expect resistance from the former than the latter.

They have already conquered the latter and it's just a matter of redrawing the map once they have taken care of former.

Have the latter shown any resistance to the execution of the 1st part of greater Zionist project ( Gaza, Lebanon)?

Look what KSA priorities are? Dick measuring contest with Houtis with the help of the greater Zion project. Instead of focusing on existential danger to the Muslim world.

To summarise the latter has already fallen. Zionism goal was to pacify Iran and to get it onboard with what is to come. Change in leadership, acceptance of Israel, in short be the actor that you painted it to be in your post.

Everything was going towards rare opportunity to loosen Zionism grip on Muslim world (get rid of USA bases , but than MBS was shown what they have against him and duped him to conquer Sana, and here we are.

From the looks of it the monarchies are at the mercy of Zionist and they consider it's presence vital for it's preservation even it it involves some land adjustments in the future.

To us nobodies we see the greater Zionist project as an existential threat to the current Muslim world, the monarchies don't and to them preservation of their rule is existential and to that end embracing Zionism is acceptable.

The 21st century evolved colonialism, preserve our kinglets and monarchy and in return we sustain your mechanism through petrodollar.

 

[r3alist]

What you say contradicts what is happening.

If that is Zionism ultimate goal, why not let Iran go nuclear?
Why the war against Iran, Houtis and hammas?
Why making the ground against Turkey next and down the line Pakistan?

Why not KSA, UAE, Jordan etc etc.

It's because Zionist expect resistance from the former than the latter.

They have already conquered the latter and it's just a matter of redrawing the map once they have taken care of former.

Have the latter shown any resistance to the execution of the 1st part of greater Zionist project ( Gaza, Lebanon)?

Look what KSA priorities are? Dick measuring contest with Houtis with the help of the greater Zion project. Instead of focusing on existential danger to the Muslim world.

To summarise the latter has already fallen. Zionism goal was to pacify Iran and to get it onboard with what is to come. Change in leadership, acceptance of Israel, in short be the actor that you painted it to be in your post.

Everything was going towards rare opportunity to loosen Zionism grip on Muslim world (get rid of USA bases , but than MBS was shown what they have against him and duped him to conquer Sana, and here we are.

From the looks of it the monarchies are at the mercy of Zionist and they consider it's presence vital for it's preservation even it it involves some land adjustments in the future.

To us nobodies we see the greater Zionist project as an existential threat to the current Muslim world, the monarchies don't and to them preservation of their rule is existential and to that end embracing Zionism is acceptable.

The 21st century evolved colonialism, preserve our kinglets and monarchy and in return we sustain your mechanism through petrodollar.

The idea is chaos, managed just enough

didn't the Arabs utilise the oil weapon and actually cause world disruption?

Didn't they have several wars?


And the Persians, were full throated American allies, never mind monarchists, enough Iranians were at the time, could be again



Let's not talk about inherent nature, everyone has pros and cons


The grand bargain was the petrol dollar, that ensured over time the recycling and dependence of Saudi dollars to the west, it happened decades ago

Arab or Persian, wahabi or 12fer, the elementary idea is prevent any power block forming for too long, if you can cause factions that infight then better, focus on Zionism is sometimes a smoke screen, what is a Zionist definition anyone believes in commonly, put aside your one, there isn't one even in Israel and that's a big clue

Iran is effectively managing the Shia portfolio, the West trying for Sunni, turkey already recognises Israel, if the adversary seeks chaos and forever war the other side should deprive them, no?
Iran feels they can power share with Israel, at the cost ar Arabs, it's for Persia, not Gaza or Lebanon, they have had months of actual war only on their soil,not decades, relatively better, Israel relatively better too,managed chaos

 

[r3alist]

Just for the perspective..... Pakistan received 25 billion dollars from America as coalition support fund ( not a loan )....do you believe Pakistan will throw it's troops in such a tough and inhospitable terrain for rollover of few billion dollars ? ....if money is right then by all means screw the houthis.

I am just saying consider comprehensive cost benefit of a different Arabia with no Saudi, everything is unknown.

That's not an argument for troops, Pakistan cannot power project like that given the region, but can we concur Pakistan will have uncertainties and difficultites to structurally overcome?

 

[mythbuster]

I am just saying consider comprehensive cost benefit of a different Arabia with no Saudi, everything is unknown.

That's not an argument for troops, Pakistan cannot power project like that given the region, but can we concur Pakistan will have uncertainties and difficultites to structurally overcome?

I can't see a different Arabia in my crystal ball..... it's a stable country with entrenched monarchy and vast majority of it's citizens are comfortable with the system.

 

[r3alist]

 

[mythbuster]

There's no financial trap , it's a cliche that has become a gospel truth.

 

[El Sidd]

For how long? They will have their own future Arab Bedouin houthi verison, agitating from the outside, that is whoever takes power.

And the powers can play them off as usual, or people will become like half of Iran eventually

For them it's always now or never.

There's no financial trap , it's a cliche that has become a gospel truth.

It's an excuse that sells. Why take away your best selling product?