Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

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Israel is on the path of self-destruction in the long term for sure but how can you say this is not a decisive victory? They literally wiped out Hamas and Hezbollah, two of their biggest security challenges.

Only from the perspective of those who see things with one eye. In the eyes of the world, Israel is the barbaric nation of degenerates. They are doomed. Surrounded by over 1.3 Billion Muslims who just need to march in and overwhelm the strip.

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[ShapurII]

Only from the perspective of those who see things with one eye. In the eyes of the world, Israel is the barbaric nation of degenerates. They are doomed. Surrounded by over 1.3 Billion Muslims who just need to march in and overwhelm the strip.

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Mention me when these 1.3 billion Muslims have lifted a finger to fight them.
The only state that has tried to resolve the Israeli issue militarily in the past 40 years has been Iran and its so-called "Axis of Resistance" and they have made sure to make an example out of it for the rest. And Muslims not only haven't done anything for Iran, but have tried their best to hurt Iran at its weakest point multiple times, proving that you should not stand against Israel and the current world order.

There can be 3 billion Muslims, or even 30 billion Muslims. None of them will do anything any time soon, but if they did, do not forget to mention me

 

[Shags101]

Define still standing. Per independent human rights organizations, it will take at least 8-10 years for millions of the homeless to return to their normal lives, Hamas will no longer be part of the governance of the Gaza Stripe, Israel will continue to occupy parts of the Gaza Strip to create a buffer zone, Israel will continue to impose a siege on the Palestinians in Gaza, and Netanyahu may very well be exonerated because Trump has brought that up multiple times with Israelis so far.

Bibi has a strong case to say he has dealt with their strongest security challenges. Syria fell to the hands of a pro-West regime, Hamas was destroyed, Hezbollah has been neutralized and is under pressure in Lebanon to demilitarize completely, Iran's nuclear program has been destroyed by the US and the UNSC sanctions are back on Iran. The issue of their continued illegal settlements in the West Bank will be ignored for a while after this "peace deal" which they will never honor as usual. And he achieved all of that in just 2 years.

Jolani I think opportunist than pro west or pro east remember before the Arab spring western countries were courting bashar,.
Israel and American intelligence says Hamas and other groups have regained their numbers and are back to prewar numbers(stating a fact not pro Hamas in the least I am pro resistance)

Irans nuclear program has been dormant for years America Europe and even same Israelis have said it but yeah now you have a country that now has the ability to actually produce nuclear weapons might actually do it one day because if you have nukes like North Korea and Israel no one’s touching you.
Sanctions are on I actually thought they never really left lol many western nations wouldn’t go to Iran fearing backlash from America lol

Hezbollah neutralized they definitely got hit hard and still reeling from it today but they said that about other groups I don’t like comparing them to to these groups but Al qaeda was destroyed oh wait they morphed into a large beast I’d be more afraid what wounded beast might do….

Here’s the problem I’m not saying your lying because you tell part of the truth or reimagine the truth to fit it to your ideal truth but here’s another truth Israel is now more isolated than a country like Iran people and companies are leaving Israel not my words Israel’s own official assessment they’re afraid and actually terrified of BDS because they can’t stop it because it’s not one specific group person or people lol. Houthi don’t need block Israel’s ports we have Spain Italy Greece and all around the world blocking shipments to Israel son wars aren’t won by bashing the head of an enemy all that does is make you more enemies no you get the world to stand with you you win that’s what Palestinians are doing like I said F the governments the people got our backs

 

[Shags101]

Mention me when these 1.3 billion Muslims have lifted a finger to fight them.
The only state that has tried to resolve the Israeli issue militarily in the past 40 years has been Iran and its so-called "Axis of Resistance" and they have made sure to make an example out of it for the rest. And Muslims not only haven't done anything for Iran, but have tried their best to hurt Iran at its weakest point multiple times, proving that you should not stand against Israel and the current world order.

There can be 3 billion Muslims, or even 30 billion Muslims. None of them will do anything any time soon, but if they did, do not forget to mention me

……lol I honestly never even looked at your name I know it starts with s lol I have to ignore you troll bye

 

[Unknowntruth]

Mention me when these 1.3 billion Muslims have lifted a finger to fight them.
The only state that has tried to resolve the Israeli issue militarily in the past 40 years has been Iran and its so-called "Axis of Resistance" and they have made sure to make an example out of it for the rest. And Muslims not only haven't done anything for Iran, but have tried their best to hurt Iran at its weakest point multiple times, proving that you should not stand against Israel and the current world order.

There can be 3 billion Muslims, or even 30 billion Muslims. None of them will do anything any time soon, but if they did, do not forget to mention me

I do not see a bright spot except that Israel has been turned into a pariah state by most of the world only saved by the U.S. and a few of its minions.

Israel only managed that by U.S. vetoing anything against Israel, daily weapons replenishment, etf

They also received intelligence throughout the war by Western countries and they even helped shoot down Iranian missiles.

Israel is very beatable but only U.S. backing saves it.

 

[Shags101]

I do not see a bright spot except that Israel has been turned into a pariah state by most of the world only saved by the U.S. and a few of its minions.

Israel only managed that by U.S. vetoing anything against Israel, daily weapons replenishment, etf

They also received intelligence throughout the war by Western countries and they even helped shoot down Iranian missiles.

Israel is very beatable but only U.S. backing saves it.

Just ignore lol honestly he’s not even worth it

 

[ShapurII]

Jolani I think opportunist than pro west or pro east remember before the Arab spring western countries were courting bashar,.
Israel and American intelligence says Hamas and other groups have regained their numbers and are back to prewar numbers(stating a fact not pro Hamas in the least I am pro resistance)

Irans nuclear program has been dormant for years America Europe and even same Israelis have said it but yeah now you have a country that now has the ability to actually produce nuclear weapons might actually do it one day because if you have nukes like North Korea and Israel no one’s touching you.
Sanctions are on I actually thought they never really left lol many western nations wouldn’t go to Iran fearing backlash from America lol

Hezbollah neutralized they definitely got hit hard and still reeling from it today but they said that about other groups I don’t like comparing them to to these groups but Al qaeda was destroyed oh wait they morphed into a large beast I’d be more afraid what wounded beast might do….

Here’s the problem I’m not saying your lying because you tell part of the truth or reimagine the truth to fit it to your ideal truth but here’s another truth Israel is now more isolated than a country like Iran people and companies are leaving Israel not my words Israel’s own official assessment they’re afraid and actually terrified of BDS because they can’t stop it because it’s not one specific group person or people lol. Houthi don’t need block Israel’s ports we have Spain Italy Greece and all around the world blocking shipments to Israel son wars aren’t won by bashing the head of an enemy all that does is make you more enemies no you get the world to stand with you you win that’s what Palestinians are doing like I said F the governments the people got our backs

I'll just keep this comment short because I believe it suffices to say this only:
Let's see how much of this anger towards Israel will stay after one year.

People here are completely ignoring how societies work. Soon, there will be newer distractions and in 5 years, nobody will even think about this war anymore. How many people talk about covid these days? Societies forget things in the past really quickly.
Mainstream media will rewrite history and frame it as a war launched on Israel by Hamas and then write a short note about how Israel used too much force in response. People talk like this is the first time Israel has done something like this. The entire history of the Jewish state is made up of genocidal wars and ethnic cleansing like this and nobody even remembers what they've done anymore.

Just be patient and watch how things will return to normal for Israel within the next 12 months, how they will constantly violate their obligations for newer excuses, and how the Europeans and the Americans will move towards fascism to keep Islam out of their countries.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Just ignore lol honestly he’s not even worth it

I know.

I don’t think Israel can declare a victory
when they had trouble beating a small militia in a tiny enclave with light weapons and no air cover. They carpet bombed everything yet were still being ambushed and their tanks destroyed.

Unfortunately, the resistance weapons were very modest. Any modern anti tank missile would have decimated their tanks but no one supplied the residence with any large number.

 

[ShapurII]

I know.

I don’t think Israel can declare a victory
when they had trouble beating a small militia in a tiny enclave with light weapons and no air cover. They carpet bombed everything yet were still being ambushed and their tanks destroyed.

Unfortunately, the resistance weapons were very modest. Any modern anti tank missile would have decimated their tanks but no one supplied the residence with any large number.

How do you want to supply them with modern weapons in the first place?

They've been under siege since 2006, can barely import enough cement to rebuild their houses, let alone build weapons. Israel even proudly claims to count calories for food imports, that's how draconian the siege is.
You guys forget that Gaza has been under a siege since 2006, and that hasn't changed one iota now, and will become much worse as well.

Besides that, Assad's Syria played a huge role in Iran's logistics to arm Hezbollah, PIJ and Hamas and it's gone.

 

[The SC]

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[Unknowntruth]

How do you want to supply them with modern weapons in the first place?

They've been under siege since 2006, can barely import enough cement to rebuild their houses, let alone build weapons. Israel even proudly claims to count calories for food imports, that's how draconian the siege is.
You guys forget that Gaza has been under a siege since 2006, and that hasn't changed one iota now, and will become much worse as well.

Besides that, Assad's Syria played a huge role in Iran's logistics to arm Hezbollah, PIJ and Hamas and it's gone.

I do not forget that

I am just merely saying “if”. The issue we have is that no one was willing to do that.

Assad played a big role in arming Hezbollah not Hamas. As you said, Egypt helped Israel with the siege on Gaza.

I am not a fan of Assad but I am also not a fan of what happened to Syria. I wish it turned out different, all those lives lost could’ve been avoided.

 

[Shags101]

I know.

I don’t think Israel can declare a victory
when they had trouble beating a small militia in a tiny enclave with light weapons and no air cover. They carpet bombed everything yet were still being ambushed and their tanks destroyed.

Unfortunately, the resistance weapons were very modest. Any modern anti tank missile would have decimated their tanks but no one supplied the residence with any large number.

Also when I speak of resistance I don’t just mean fighting against occupation soldiers or toxic settlers no honestly I prefer resistance of this new era bds and likeminded people and groups they’re chipping away what Zionist loves most money

 

[ShapurII]

I do not forget that

I am just merely saying “if”. The issue we have is that no one was willing to do that.

Assad played a big role in arming Hezbollah not Hamas. As you said, Egypt helped Israel with the siege on Gaza.

I am not a fan of Assad but I am also not a fan of what happened to Syria. I wish it turned out different, all those lives lost could’ve been avoided.

Where do you think Iranian Fajr-5/Fajr-5C missiles came from? Partly from Sudan, but also from Lebanon and Syria. How do you think Iran armed Lebanon? Through Syria.

So, in a sense, Syria did indirectly play a role in arming Hamas and PIJ, and maintaining the military encirclement of Israel by the Axis of Resistance.

I'm not a fan of the guy either, but Assad's Syria as a state was of vital importance to the Axis of Resistance for funding, training and smuggling weapons.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Also when I speak of resistance I don’t just mean fighting against occupation soldiers or toxic settlers no honestly I prefer resistance of this new era bds and likeminded people and groups they’re chipping away what Zionist loves most money

I hope it’s enough to make a state possible.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Where do you think Iranian Fajr-5/Fajr-5C missiles came from? Partly from Sudan, but also from Lebanon and Syria. How do you think Iran armed Lebanon? Through Syria.

So, in a sense, Syria did indirectly play a role in arming Hamas and PIJ, and maintaining the military encirclement of Israel by the Axis of Resistance.

I'm not a fan of the guy either, but Assad's Syria as a state was of vital importance to the Axis of Resistance for funding, training and smuggling weapons.

I state that it armed Hezbollah in Lebanon and yes through Syria.

Hamas was under siege and very little stuff came in. Most of it was developed inside Gaza and Iran gave technology know hows. I don’t discount that.

The pipeline was vital to Hezbollah but I don’t think Hezbollah getting involved in Syria was a wise decision. Then again, other states were involved also. Just a messy situation.

No, I don’t believe everyone against Bashar was daesh. I have friend on both sides of the conflict and many Syrians despised him.

He should have led a peaceful transfer and made some concessions.