Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

Why are you constantly trolling and obsessing about Arabs and the number of Arabs?

The only reason why the current situation occurs is because of the US. Remove the US from the equation and the US-provided nukes and weapons (without that Israel has barely any military left standing to begin with) to Israel and 1-2 large Arab tribes within Palestine proper, if given enough of weapons, could overrun tiny Israel overnight. That is how weak they are without US military, political and economic support.

This is also why they have lived under the boots of us Arabs for millennia and were stateless and why most of them to this day are Arab Jews.

Most of them changed their identity from Arab Jews (belonging to various Arab states and speaking Arabic as their mother tongue) within 2-3 generations and have now turned into "Israelis". Same with the Eastern European, Ethiopian etc. lot.

Speaking about population, by 2050 there will be an estimated 750-800 million Arabs.

One way or another Jews/Zionists will eventually be forced to coexist or they will eventually perish.
who say I am trolling? there is a thread on PDF which talks about 500 Million Arabs, and people of Gaza/Palestine are called "Kin" by Arabs so they are waiting for them to come rescue them.
Now you are saying its the US that protect the Israel, is that something you discover after Oct 7th? everyone knows that US protects Israel but question why didn't Arabs who are so strong didn't find a work around? I mean Qatar got bombed in broad day light and we saw the gathering of Prince and Princess from GCC, only to condemn it while Bibi renew its threat, now before you say Israel PM apologize and Trump now ensure Qatar's safety that is laughable.
You find such comments trolling and probably hurting because you know that the myth of bravery from Arabs or their days of the fighting as a nation is long gone, while the poor Palestinians are waiting for the world specially the Arabs to take a stand for them, watching their kids starved to death.
Every Muslim nation, should keep their heads down for what is happening in Gaza and our collective shame over inability to do anything, except few statement and that include Pakistan. Spain/S.Africa and few other non Muslim countries has shown more spine for Palestinian cause than GCC, and no the AID or money to rebuild Gaza don't count.
 
who say I am trolling? there is a thread on PDF which talks about 500 Million Arabs, and people of Gaza/Palestine are called "Kin" by Arabs so they are waiting for them to come rescue them.
Now you are saying its the US that protect the Israel, is that something you discover after Oct 7th? everyone knows that US protects Israel but question why didn't Arabs who are so strong didn't find a work around? I mean Qatar got bombed in broad day light and we saw the gathering of Prince and Princess from GCC, only to condemn it while Bibi renew its threat, now before you say Israel PM apologize and Trump now ensure Qatar's safety that is laughable.
You find such comments trolling and probably hurting because you know that the myth of bravery from Arabs or their days of the fighting as a nation is long gone, while the poor Palestinians are waiting for the world specially the Arabs to take a stand for them, watching their kids starved to death.
Every Muslim nation, should keep their heads down for what is happening in Gaza and our collective shame over inability to do anything, except few statement and that include Pakistan. Spain/S.Africa and few other non Muslim countries has shown more spine for Palestinian cause than GCC, and no the AID or money to rebuild Gaza don't count.
There are hardly any Arab users on PDF and I am not aware of any such thread.

We Arabs don't need to prove you or anybody else anything. Our military history is one of the greatest in recorded history which the territory of the Arab world itself (largest ethnic region in the world and almost the size of Russia spanning 2 continents) is a living evidence of as well as the numerous empires that Arabs created. The most of any ethnic group in terms of the size of empires created (top 15). Not to mention religious, cultural, linguistic, architectural, scientific, agricultural, ethnic/DNA wise influence which few living or extinct ethnic groups can match as well. Completely unmatched in the Muslim world. Those are not empty statements but facts that can easily be confirmed.

No, that has been known since 1918. Who do you think created Israel? Did it fall down from the sky one day after the Jews had been stateless for 2000 + years? It was a UK invention and later the protection was overtaken by the US due to the growing Jewish influence in the US and the collapse of the UK empire.

Nobody is frustrated at not being a match (military and economic) against the US (currently).

The frustration is that the Zionist cowards are nothing without the US/Western support and that the same West/US is helping and aiding their behavior. That and innocent Gazans dying (Palestinian demographics will quickly recover but that is no excuse obviously). As well as the disunity among Arabs and Muslims (regimes and governments).

Rest can and will be solved and as I have written many times, Israel in its current form and with its current behavior, is on loan anyway. Speeding up this process would be great though.
 
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It was under Biden that the war against Yemen was initiated - a military intervention that was designed to support Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza.
So in reality, there are no differences between Republican and Democrat establishments when it comes to Palestine and the Middle East.

I know you are a fearless warrior for the Palestinians but posts like your's, especially of someone who lives in America, saddens me. There is always a lesser evil, which in this case are the Democrats, and the choice of voting in America is binary: Either Republicans or the Democrats. You and others please ponder this article from the NY Times from just a few days ago. Behind a paywall that's why I am posting here.
Let's not confuse Biden and many Democrats' pro Israel views with the rather large number of Democrats who had been supporting the Palestinians despite the AIPAC threat against them! Biden was personally a Zionist--the Democratic party is not!

PS. I actually voted for Trump in 2020 and may have voted for him in 2024 as well but I KNEW he would be even worse against Palestinian then Biden and that's proven right.


Americans’ Support for Israel Dramatically Declines, Times/Siena Poll Finds​

A majority of American voters now oppose sending additional economic and military aid to Israel, a stunning reversal in public opinion since the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks.

Nearly two years into the war in Gaza, American support for Israel has undergone a seismic reversal, with large shares of voters expressing starkly negative views about the Israeli government’s management of the conflict, a new poll from The New York Times and Siena University found.

Disapproval of the war appears to have prompted a striking reassessment by American voters of their broader sympathies in the decades-old conflict in the region, with slightly more voters siding with Palestinians over Israelis for the first time since The Times began asking voters about their sympathies in 1998.

In the aftermath of the Hamas-led attacks on Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, American voters broadly sympathized with Israelis over Palestinians, with 47 percent siding with Israel and 20 percent with Palestinians. In the new poll, 34 percent said they sided with Israel and 35 percent with Palestinians. Thirty-one percent said they were unsure or backed both equally.

A majority of American voters now oppose sending additional economic and military aid to Israel, a stunning reversal in public opinion since the Oct. 7 attacks. About six out of 10 voters said that Israel should end its military campaign, even if the remaining Israeli hostages were not released or Hamas was not eliminated. And 40 percent of voters said Israel was intentionally killing civilians in Gaza, nearly double the number of voters who agreed with that statement in the 2023 poll.
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Taken together, the findings in the Times/Siena survey show a major deterioration in support for a staunch American ally that has enjoyed decades of bipartisan backing. The drop is an unusually large shift in public opinion in this hyper-polarized era, when public opinion has tended to move incrementally over long periods unless affected by cataclysmic events such as war.

Austin Mugleston, a Democrat from Blackfoot, Idaho, said his views on U.S. support for Israel had weakened as the conflict dragged on.

“I actually was pretty pro-Israel the last few years, especially hearing about the devastating terrorist night of Oct. 7,” said Mr. Mugleston, 33, who works in communications. “Nobody should go through that. But for how long it’s taking and from how much worse Israel is doing to Palestinians, it just doesn’t feel like a level playing field anymore.”

Younger voters, regardless of party, were less likely to back continuing that support. Nearly seven in 10 voters under 30 said they opposed additional economic or military aid.

Much of the shift in views on Israel has been driven by a sharp decline in support by Democratic voters. Republicans largely continue to support Israel, though there has been a modest decline.

Nearly two years ago, Democrats were evenly divided, with 34 percent sympathizing with Israel and 31 percent with Palestinians. Now, rank-and-file Democrats across the country overwhelmingly side with Palestinians — 54 percent said they sympathized more with Palestinians, while only 13 percent expressed greater empathy for Israel.

More than eight in 10 Democrats said Israel should stop the war even if the country had not achieved its goals, a notable increase from the roughly 60 percent who said the same two years ago.
 
There are hardly any Arab users on PDF and I am not aware of any such thread.

We Arabs don't need to prove you or anybody else anything. Our military history is one of the greatest in recorded history which the territory of the Arab world itself (largest ethnic region in the world and almost the size of Russia spanning 2 continents) is a living evidence of as well as the numerous empires that Arabs created. The most of any ethnic group in terms of the size of empires created (top 15). Not to mention religious, cultural, linguistic, architectural, scientific, agricultural, ethnic/DNA wise influence which few living or extinct ethnic groups can match as well. Those are not empty statements but facts that can easily be confirmed.

No, that has been known since 1918. Who do you think created Israel? Did it fall down from the air one day after the Jews had been stateless for 2000 + years? It was a UK invention and later the protection was overtaken by the US due to the Jewish influence in the US.

Nobody is frustrated at not being a match (military and economic) against the US (currently).

The frustration is that the Zionist cowards are nothing without the US/Western support and that the same West/US is helping and aiding their behavior. That and innocent Gazans dying (Palestinian demographics will quickly recover). As well as the disunity among Arabs and Muslims (regimes and governments).

Rest can and will be solved and as I have written many times, Israel in its current form and with its current behavior, is on loan anyway. Speeding up this process would be great though.
will get back to you tomorrow, had to sleep for now cause I have work later.
 
And if anybody needs any more evidence, there are numerous videos of lightly armed Hamas fighters killing IDF terrorists while being heavily outnumbered and having 100 times less technology at their disposal.

Where would those clowns be without US fighter jets, US bombs, US intelligence gathering, US satellites, US provided/created/supported air defense systems, weapons, tanks etc.

It is in fact a COMPLETE AND UTTER JOKE, that those clowns have not defeated Hamas yet or even conquered TINY flat Gaza (with no geographical obstacles, basically a prison for 20 + years).

As I wrote even an ape can push a few buttons and fire bombs at apartments, buildings, houses etc. and kill civilians. You could probably teach a cat to throw a grenade.

Truly a pathetic lot.

will get back to you tomorrow, had to sleep for now cause I have work later.
No problem.

In 1948, Palestinians farmers/Bedouins/townspeople had the military advantage against the Jews until the Jews started getting direct UK/Western support and weapons and additional deployments of WW2 Jewish veterans. Only due to their mass terror (Arabs never did that) and mass murder of civilians did they force (also through propaganda which created widespread panic among Palestinians and forced many to flee their cities, towns and villages) most of the Palestinians out of Palestine proper ("Israel today). Which is why 20-25% of the Israeli population today are Palestinians Arabs. Those are families who the Jewish terrorists did not succeed forcing out during the Nakba.
 
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Too many people are simply stupid

That included the Arab "leaders" and leaders of the Muslim world.

The U.S is clearly a DISHONEST PEACE BROKER, and always has been, it's the single reason Israel can exist, find itself and stand

So give the U.S a simple ultimatum, either be reasonable and help establish a free Palestinian state or lose the support of the Arab and Muslim world


All they do is act like cowards Infront of the U.S and the U.S continues on its merry way supporting a genocide


Let's be clear
ISRAEL IS IN TROUBLE

It's a pariah state, with a determined and wide ranging opposition across the world

It's hated and despised in the region and beyond

And it's being cornered



EVEN IF it takes Gaza, it's then stuck with two areas of occupation with millions of people

Israel will be CONSTANTLY hounded and targeted


It needs a way out



So this plan is to try and get Israel off the hook, where

-Muslim nations send forces to police Gaza, whilst Israel gets to occupy land

-Muslim forces keep Palestinians down and disarm them and hamas

-Muslim forces face being targeted and killed as collaborators


And because their is a "peace" process, targeting Israel becomes difficult across the world with multiple states given an excuse to not impose sanctions because it may imperil negotiations and peace



NONE OF THIS HELPS PALESTINE
NON OF THIS HELPS THE REGION
THE PLAN IS A TRAP TO GET ISRAEL OFF THE HOOK
THE PLAN IS FOR STUPID ARABS who have no brains



If the region had honour, they would be imposing increasing costs on Israel and the U.S
They would as a collective targeting Israel ON EVERY FORUM, SPORTING OR CULTURAL EVENT, AND MEDIA OUTLET
and they would be declaring the risk of war to protect the Palestinians from.l genocide


But as they are cowards that's too much to ask


But at least don't force the Palestinians into a trap
Let the Israeli take the pressure, blame and costs of conflict and target them

Israel is under pressure and you can't let them off the hook and let them get away


Trump is a moron and the U.S is a power in decline and joke at the moment
 
Gaza

Nations have crumbled under such bombardment yet you still stand against the military might of the collective West. Just a small pebble within the Muslim world yet fights many times its size. Abandoned and alone yet your faith has never wavered. Gaza, you have become the beating heart of the Muslim world and your blood fills its body.
 
Too many people are simply stupid

That included the Arab "leaders" and leaders of the Muslim world.

The U.S is clearly a DISHONEST PEACE BROKER, and always has been, it's the single reason Israel can exist, find itself and stand

So give the U.S a simple ultimatum, either be reasonable and help establish a free Palestinian state or lose the support of the Arab and Muslim world


All they do is act like cowards Infront of the U.S and the U.S continues on its merry way supporting a genocide


Let's be clear
ISRAEL IS IN TROUBLE

It's a pariah state, with a determined and wide ranging opposition across the world

It's hated and despised in the region and beyond

And it's being cornered



EVEN IF it takes Gaza, it's then stuck with two areas of occupation with millions of people

Israel will be CONSTANTLY hounded and targeted


It needs a way out



So this plan is to try and get Israel off the hook, where

-Muslim nations send forces to police Gaza, whilst Israel gets to occupy land

-Muslim forces keep Palestinians down and disarm them and hamas

-Muslim forces face being targeted and killed as collaborators


And because their is a "peace" process, targeting Israel becomes difficult across the world with multiple states given an excuse to not impose sanctions because it may imperil negotiations and peace



NONE OF THIS HELPS PALESTINE
NON OF THIS HELPS THE REGION
THE PLAN IS A TRAP TO GET ISRAEL OFF THE HOOK
THE PLAN IS FOR STUPID ARABS who have no brains



If the region had honour, they would be imposing increasing costs on Israel and the U.S
They would as a collective targeting Israel ON EVERY FORUM, SPORTING OR CULTURAL EVENT, AND MEDIA OUTLET
and they would be declaring the risk of war to protect the Palestinians from.l genocide


But as they are cowards that's too much to ask


But at least don't force the Palestinians into a trap
Let the Israeli take the pressure, blame and costs of conflict and target them

Israel is under pressure and you can't let them off the hook and let them get away


Trump is a moron and the U.S is a power in decline and joke at the moment
You don't think that the governments/regimes of the Arab, Muslim world, Pakistan included, are not aware of all this?

But what can they realistically do when the US empire is enslaved by Zionists?

What would you think would occur to say Egypt (the strongest military power next to Gaza/Israel) if they attacked Israel? The US/Israel would commit an even greater genocide against Egypt, try to destroy Egypt completely etc.

Of course the US/Western hypocrisy about human rights is completely exposed as a hoax only used against political enemies of the West, when they have not boycotted sanctioned or thrown Israel out of anything. Neither the useless Eurovision, nor UEFA nor FIFA nor any other international body controlled by the West. It is a total scam from the UN to those (in comparison) irrelevant organizations.

But what is the solution when you have the US in the equation and the Israeli nukes in the background, provided by the same US/West?

Which btw is another hoax, this tiny shitty Zionist state is allowed to (in fact given nukes for free) but everyone else in the region who tries to reach parity (Libya, Iraq, Iran etc.) is viciously attacked and prevented from doing so.

As I wrote, prevent the US from being a loyal servant/slave of the Zionists and most of the problems can be fixed relatively quickly. Last time I checked it is the same US that that is blocking every resolution against Israel in the UN (as useless as it is) as well time and time again for decades upon decades.

The same US is the only significant country that is yet to recognize Palestine (all of the other semi-significant states not yet to do it are also only not doing it due to US pressure) as well.

The biggest enabler of the Zionists since the early 1950's (in every sphere) is the US as well.

Don't even think for one moment that Netanyahoo would be doing what he is doing right now if not for total blind US support 24/7.

How us outsiders (non-US citizens) can change this, I don't know. The American people need to wake up first and realize that their blind support for the Zionists is actually CONTRARY to their geopolitical interests (long-term) and that they would win FAR more if they did the right thing in this regard. Yet due to total AIPAC/Zionist control of US foreign policy that is not possible.

At one point in time there should be no more excuses for the American people (electorate) you can't get electing politicians who afterwards are creating havoc in the Muslim world, enabling Zionist genocide, preventing a Palestinian state etc. This entire conflict has given rise to many other conflicts in the region, extremist groups and what not who use the conflict as fuel. Even the likes of ObL (whatever we think about him), his grievances against the US was mainly due to their policies in regard to Israel and their interventions in the region on behalf of mostly Israel. It is a vicious cycle that is not needed for the people of the region obviously and most importantly for the Palestinians.
 
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You don't think that the governments/regimes of the Arab, Muslim world, Pakistan included, are not aware of all this?

But what can they realistically do when the US empire is enslaved by Zionists?

Of course the US/Western hypocrisy about human rights is completely exposed as a hoax only used against political enemies of the West, when they have not boycotted sanctioned or thrown Israel out of anything. Neither the useless Eurovision, nor UEFA nor FIFA nor any other international body controlled by the West. It is a total scam from the UN to those (in comparison) irrelevant organizations.
1. Muslim world is fragmented
2. Dictators worried about staying in power instead of the interest of their people.
3. Nepotism
4. Cowardly
5. Trillions of dollars of potential leverage not used to stop the genocide.

This is just 5 reasons, many more exist.
 
You don't think that the governments/regimes of the Arab, Muslim world, Pakistan included, are not aware of all this?

But what can they realistically do when the US empire is enslaved by Zionists?

Of course the US/Western hypocrisy about human rights is completely exposed as a hoax only used against political enemies of the West, when they have not boycotted sanctioned or thrown Israel out of anything. Neither the useless Eurovision, nor UEFA nor FIFA nor any other international body controlled by the West. It is a total scam from the UN to those (in comparison) irrelevant organizations.

Of course it is, as a result they want to trick Muslim states into policing and acting like security guards for Israel

They want the Arab and Muslim states to take the load off Israel as the occupational power and for the responsibility of disarming the Palestinians and keeping them crushed unloaded onto Muslim states


Whatever the pain and death ITS ALREADY HAPPENED as sad as it is a few more thousand deaths don't mean much compared to the greater freedom of Palestinians

It doesn't matter what Arab states say to hamas officially, in private their must be NO PRESSURE

The Palestinians will be pushed into the refugee zone and, Israel will be a occupational power,

Let Israel take the burden and the cost

Refuse any movement on the Abraham accords and start putting pressure on Arab states to pull back from any agreements

Put endless pressure on Israel in every forum


At the end of the day, the PALESTINIANS will suffer, but Israel will be stuck and you need to use that as a tool to force forward a two state solution


The Jews currently are under immense pressure, that killing in Manchester has hurt them, check their forums and spaces, they understand Israel has gone too far and the consequences for them could be bad

We can't allow Israel off the hook
 
Says the false-flagger and anti-Arab retard that started his personal insults and anti-Arab rhetoric. If anything that is textbook Zionist/Jew talk since at least 1918. Taking a look at your user history, (I took a quick glance as I wrote), every second post of yours is insults aimed at Arabs and the usual inferiority complexes and nonsense, much like your recent post. Even your single profile post is about Arabs.

You are mentally ill/retarded and should seek help. Not to mention that whoever you are (certainly not an Arab) you and your equally retarded "opinions" are completely irrelevant for Arabs anywhere in the world. We look at the likes of you and laugh.

But the funny thing, your anti-Arab rhetoric, you would get your head smashed in, if acting this way in front of Arabs so you are limited to trolling online much like your fellow hasbara trolls.

Generalising are you Arab
Racism shining through ,
truth hurts
Head smashed in , its all coming out now


A passage in the holy books about people like you makes my belief stronger, everyday i read scripture and look at the state of you Arabs & understand the religion of islaam better . I'll call you out for your hypocrisy and your chosen ones delusion after all God has forewarned us about you lot .

And its all coming true .


Racism comes from the devil , the first racist in history .
Bilal R.A doesnt belong in a zoo
Moses PBUH was not primitive

You like me to post my IDyou little 5ft racist pussyhole ?
 
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Didnt he say the same last month ?

The Casino will be built on bones and bombs .
 
Trump and terrorist Israel are threatening genocidal Holocaust carpet bombing of entire Gaza to force people into Egypt or die :
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Urgent | Trump: I ask the Palestinians to leave the area that is likely to be a place of death in the future to safer areas in Gaza immediately

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Didnt he say the same last month ?

The Casino will be built on bones and bombs .
He did. But he's saying what Israel/Jews are telling him to say.

The terrorist Jews of Israel are now actually threatening to annihilate everyone in all of Gaza and telling people to 'flee' which they can't do because Israel won't allow them to flee into Israel for temporary safety and neither will Egypt

There needs to be a intervention over this we can't keep fucking allowing Satanic evil shit like this to happen
 

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